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kaira
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posted February 06, 2009 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Britney Spears has an Aquarius moon and it seems she definately loves her children.

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posted February 06, 2009 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LEXX i feel for you. i don't know if it is an aqua moon or the religion thing that makes your mom that way...maybe both? my grandmother, a russian jew who escaped the bloodbath when the cossacks came to her town and murdered pretty much everyone, was the same. her religion was all she had left of her roots, and she never acknowledged my existence because i was the SPAWN of a second marriage! she was also (most likely) bipolar and chronically abused her children emotionally...

most people i know with aqua moons have aqua moms! how they get on seems to have more to do with the child's basic needs as seen in the chart, ie the libra lady is fine with her aqua mom, the scorpio i know has always found her mom unsupportive etc...

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Scorp moon here, and I love my mom a lot but sometimes she can be really difficult (particularly when I was a teenager we clashed a lot--more because of cultural/religious values and domination/obedience/disobeying house rules). Nonetheless after all is said and done I am very close to my mom. You might say there were parts of my life where there was a lot of negative energy and tension between us and I just wanted to leave home. She actually did kick me out of the house once too when I was a teenager; but anyhoo.... now all is well but we have both evolved.

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posted February 06, 2009 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx,
I feel so sad that you had such a tough life. I hope the universe gives you the good things you deserve, in this lifetime.
Did your mom have a very traumatic childhood?
She seems to have very obsessive thoughts.

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posted February 06, 2009 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpocia:

The title of this thread really caught my attention. A female friend of mine has an Aqua Moon and she has told me of how she's received complete neglect from her mother. She has disdain for her mother and appears to be very affected by her mother's absence.

Her mother felt unable to take care of her, abandoned her family, and this Sag Sun and Aqua Moon has been raised entirely by her father and older sisters.

She has her Sun in the 1st house, and has several planets in Capricorn in the 1st house. She is very close to her father.

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My friend has an Aquarius Moon opposite Saturn. His mother died when he was young.

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posted February 06, 2009 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know a girl with only hard aspects to her Moon, and she's the female version of a Mama's boy. She loves her mom.

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posted February 06, 2009 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kind of agree that it depends on the aspects to the moon. Alot of my mother's siblings besides her have aqua moons (I think its maybe 3/4 out of the 6 of them) and by all accounts, she was a loving and sound mother.

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posted February 06, 2009 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
katatonic
Thank you.
My mother is a first decan Scorpio.
I do not know her birth hour nor minute, nor AM or PM.
Is there a way to figure out her moon?

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Lexx,
I feel so sad that you had such a tough life. I hope the universe gives you the good things you deserve, in this lifetime.
I am the happiest I have been in my life to date. My husband is a true blessing.
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Did your mom have a very traumatic childhood?
Traumatic? Yes in some ways. Unusual...yeah.
Her mother was about 20 when she was born.
Her father was about 73 when she was born.
It was not unusual for young girls to marry old men then, as the deep south was still recovering from the Civil War and then The Great Depression.
They were quite wealthy high upper class, until her father died suddenly of gangrene.
He did not trust banks and buried his money.
But no one has ever found it.
She made him angry and he kicked a hog and busted open his foot...it got infected and him being a diabetic, he developed gangrene and died 3 days later. She blames herself for his death when she was 11 years old.
She was raised and nursed by three "Mammys", black servants/nursemaids descended from her grandfather's former slaves. (Her dad was born in 1860)
She did not know her mother well and there were several other siblings. She had at least 2 stepfathers. When her real father died, the mansion and huge estate was lost and the tobacco and cotton fields once part of the family fortune....became a place where she had to go to work at, and her mother too. No more servants, no more school..had to drop out in the 9th. grade to help the family and pick cotton and tobacco. They went from indoor plumbing and all to an outside well, and a pump...a wood cook stove...no more bath tubs, only big oak wash barrels and boiling water to bathe in. And out houses instead of bathrooms.
No more cooks, housekeepers, maids, gardeners either. She had to suddenly work.
Her childhood sweetheart/crush was James Carter. Yep...former peanut farmer's son, and ex president.
So yeah...she had a screwed up life.
She became an alcoholic later ( but I heard stories about her in her teens, and moonshine hooch made in stills by many down there, so who knows when she actually became an alcoholic) and schizophrenic, bi-polar and diabetic.
And she was always very rabidly paranoid religious.
She sexually abused me, beginning as far back as I can remember, like 2 years old...because she was obsessed with virginity...claiming she had to check to see if I was still a virgin, I punched her when I was 10 and it finally stopped) and she also whipped me so bad (in the name of Jeaus)
that I had to wear black leotards and long sleeves even in the heat of summer to hide the scabby or bloody welts. I even had to cut my own whip from the willows. I am not going for pity here, just trying to explain why I do not like my own mother.
I tried a few times as an adult to get along with her but it was a useless try.
All it resulted in was more death threats from her. The only time she was kinda nice was when my stepfather was alive.
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She seems to have very obsessive thoughts.
Very. I see no way to reach her in a sane place. She has spent alot of time in mental hospitals and asylums.
I feel sorry for her, but I cannot let her near me.
I suspect my own gender birth abnormalities and being a hunchback and having club foot, were the result of her drinking and drugs she took to prevent miscarriage. A boy was born a year to the day, in the same tiny hospital, in the same room a year before myself. She feels I am him come back to haunt her. Seems she gave birth to him on the toilet and they could not save him when it was discovered, as he had been in the water for too many minutes. Once when she was in a crazy fugue she said she had drowned him because he was ugly.
Well little premmies often are red and terrible looking. She feels if she cannot get me to accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour that she will be damned for her sins.
In a nutshell...shes totally nutters.

Does this have anything to do with my Aqua moon?
Who knows?

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posted February 06, 2009 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Sag Sun, Aqua Moon

My mother was a Pisces Sun, Gemini Moon. Her mother died in childbirth when she was born, so she never knew her mother. She had two stepmothers, the first, I believe was not friendly towards her and her second stepmother (the one I knew growing up) is an Aquarius Sun.

My mother was never the overly affectionate type, but she always took care of our needs and I always felt she was fragile in many ways, but, having squared suns, there was always an edge between us as well as emotional tension. We both are very psychic/empathic and would bounce off each other. My sister and brother were much closer to her while I was very close to my dad. I never felt her approval (or disapproval even), so I instinctively went to my father for whatever nurturing I needed.

My dad had Taurus Sun and Aqua Moon. He wasn't distant at all, but a lot of fun when I was a child and always supportive of me, encouraging whatever I decided to do. He was the one who nurtured me, very protective. I think he knew I wasn't close to her so he took over in many ways.

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posted February 07, 2009 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx,
I'm so glad you're so happy now, you deserve it! You're mom probably has some heavy pluto stuff going on. I think in families, patterns are repeated so often. My mom had a tough childhood but I don't think it can justify being so difficult to your own kids. I guess at some point it has to stop. Since my mom had a tough life, basically so did I because she has made me suffer so much. But if I ever have kids I don't want to do the same to them just because I had a bad time. It has to end with some generation, otherwise everyone will suffer.
So even if your mom had such a hard life, it doesn't justify everything she has done to you. Obviously she couldn't overcome the things that happened to her.
The important thing is that you're ok now, and happy!

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posted February 07, 2009 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mother was very loving and affectionate to us as children though as we got older treated us more like friends and now that we have resolved our issues and have lots of space between is (she really needs her space as do I) we get along quite well.
Though our past has had ups and downs and there is quite a bit of detachment between us emotional as well as physical there is mostly understanding bewteen us.
I think she is pretty cool myself and a very sweet person who can be prone to erratic outbursts! She is an Aquarius.
Me
Aquarius Moon in the 4th house.

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Wow -- this topic has way more replies than I ever imagined! Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences, thoughts and time with me.

I keep running into this everywhere I go though; the MAJORITY of Aquarius Moons have terrible relationships with their mothers. And oddly, it seems to be more FEMALES with Aquarius Moon than males who have bad experiences there.

But as Augentier wrote, their father was an Aqua moon and pretty much a 'mama's boy'. Another person wrote about their Cancerian female friend who was also very, very close to their mother. AND she had lots of harsh aspects to her moon.. which is really ironic!

So.. I still don't understand what exactly determines where the relationship would go wrong! It must have something to do with another area of one's chart.

What about Venus? Do any of you think that Venus would (in any way) influence a good relationship? Or is it more or less the 4th house that should be analyzed more in depth?

This is just a very interesting topic for me.. =)


To LEXX:
Your story is so sad, and I can definitely feel the depth of pain you endured. I'm really very sorry you had to go through that with your mother..

Thanks so much again for everyone who replied!
(As for the one who wanted to erase their post after I read it.. I did, and thank you also for sharing! It was much appreciated.)

Enjoy your night each of you!
~ S

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posted October 30, 2011 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LEXX:
Scorpio sun
Aquarius Moon

My mother? "shudder"
I posted this a few years ago.
She has finally left me alone thankfully for a couple years and I hope she continues to do so.
My childhood was a nightmare mostly because of her.
I won't go into all that but my adult experiences are not much better.
Well at least no more whipping me bloody.


Your mother sounds like someone I know her 2 children hate her her oldest daughter married some random man just to get away from the house second daughter ran away and broke her fathers heart the father is helpless and scared of this woman the only one living at home is her son who she adores

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My mom has an Aquarius moon. Her relationship with her mom is weird, but she was the oldest of a lot of kids so she basically helped raise them. Her mom was around 21 when she had her. Her relationship with her mom is good and they love each other, but they were always more two people together than mother and daughter. It's strange.
And my mom as a mother has always shown her emotions in a weird way. Not in a mean or neglecting way, ust a less "I love you" or hugging way. But I get along the best with her of everyone I know because she isn't really sensitive like most people around me (my dad, brother and best friend have Cancer moons). And she's less clingy. Are a lot of Aquarius moons like that?

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Lexxie, I'm really sorry about your demented mother and how it ruined your childhood.

I'm an Aqua rising and Taurus moon (moon in the 3/4 cusp opposite Neptune in the 10th). I don't get along with my mother. She's a manipulative, narcissistic b*tch. She was always like that. She's a master of manipulation though so I was deluded for many years that that's 'love'. She "loves" me when she expects me to improve her life, or when she wants something from me. She never supported me emotionally in childhood or even now that we're adults.
These people are just sick. Best to be left on their own devices; don't even try to get through to them (as I did); it's a waste of time. I personally think family is only the people in your life who love you and in my case these people are my friends. Blood relationships do not mean love by definition.

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posted October 30, 2011 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LEXX:
Scorpio sun
Aquarius Moon

My mother? "shudder"
I posted this a few years ago.
She has finally left me alone thankfully for a couple years and I hope she continues to do so.
My childhood was a nightmare mostly because of her....


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Hey Lexx,

Curious.....I have moon in pisces and my moon is squared neptune and I always felt that my mom had poor boundaries with me. Its almost like she thought I was part of her and didn't want to let me develop into my own personality but wanted to mold me into hers. She did this unconsciously though, it was automatic for her so she didn't realize that it would slow down my personal development. My mom means well and did her best. It took for me to move to another state for me to be able to establish healthy boundaries with her and now we get along better and my issues with her are finally starting to heal.

I am curious since your relationship with mother was pretty bad if your moon has any stressful aspects with the rest of your chart and if so what are those aspects?

OH and really sorry to hear about your mom! .

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I am an Aquarius moon and the middle child/only girl. I always thought that my mother didn't understand me. I felt as if she was the "bad guy" from a story book. I went through life as a small child always worried I wasn't good enough for her, while she doted on my brothers. I couldn't understand what I had done wrong. She would beat me for the weirdest things (like getting sick and throwing up..? Singing the wrong lyrics to a song. If I didn't want to wear a dress she would throw me outside naked and laugh at me through the window..etc...stupid things I could not understand, while never touching my brothers). I should also mention her Sun is in Scorpio, wickedly intense. (My Sun is in Aries..and she really doused my flame when I was young, turning me inward and extremely shy and insecure).

When my parents got a divorce at the age of 14, I chose to live with my dad instead of my mom. Now, this shocked everyone because really my dad's no prize either. But I could take it from my dad....at 14 I hated my mom.

The relationship strained from there, and at 18 I stopped talking to her altogether. Then I got pregnant and wanted her advice. She told me I would be better off with an abortion (even though she later told me she had gotten one in her past and it still haunts her and she thinks its messed up. Right? Then why would she want her daughter to suffer??)

Now that I have a son of my own I fear I'm a bit detached as a mother. He's a Cancer Sun with Libra Moon/Libra rising. I fear his emotion, and though I would never treat him with the hatred my own mother did, I have a hard time being "motherly." I love him in the best way I know how, a bit of Aries shining through-lots of hugs and cuddles and playing. Thats all fine for now I just hope as he gets older we can share something more in depth.

I go to my mother's house now every Sunday for dinner, and I don't know why. Sense of duty perhaps. Most of the times I feel fine, though she says something snarky every single time and also hits on my husband, yuck. What really got me was last year on my birthday she got drunk and said to me, "I hate you the most out of the children and I love you the least." Ouch.

On top of that she has an intensely loving bond with my son. Double ouch.

I know this topic is old, don't know who will read it...it honestly just feels better to get it off my soul.

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My older brother is Aqua sun and moon and from what I gather, he seems to think that mom owes him something. He takes her belongs and pawns 'em off for his own selfish reasons. he even told her recently, word for word, "You owe me." He's been exhibiting this kind of behavior for years. As far as I know, mom was distant from him due to work reasons in his childhood. Mom had to send my brother to Trinidad when he was nine years old because at that time I had been born with birth complications and there was no one to look after him while mom was staying at the hospital with me. And me...I have a Scorpio moon in the 8th house with Scorpio as the ruler of my 8th house. I see mom as being very authoritarian, jealous, and possessive,confusing, yet loving. Very love/hate relationship with her. For as long as I can remember, mom was the type to tell me I couldn't do this, that, or the next thing because "she said so." I had to move to the beat of HER drum and I've always hated that. But I can't say she is a bad mom or anything like that because she ALWAYS put her children before all else, me especially. I always felt as though I was the favorite child. As close as she is to her children, her work keeps her a little distant physically and emotionally . Mom has been a nurse for over twenty years now ans still going strong. She often time's works twelve-hour shifts 3-5 days a week. Her Aries sun/moon/mercury and mars in Pisces in the 10th house shows how dedicated to her career she is.

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I have Aqua Moon and I am very close to my mum.
Nothing traumatic or unhappy. Actually quite the opposite, very supportive.
However, sometimes it felt or feels like ther eis too much attention on me, and she worries too much.
It is not really controlling, but I easily feel very observed and analyzed.
She also takes things very personal, her kids (not only me) are doing.
Like everything somehow has been directly caused by her, and she may feel guilty or worrisome about it (for example it is hard for her that I am not in a relationship and my brother flat out refuses to marry his longterm girlfriend).
It is no use to tell her that is none of her business. her kids ARE her business.

But on the flip side she is very caring, supportive and we could always count on her (and my Dad). Always a safe net. My family is a very closeknitted clan, somehow.


My Mum is a Scorpio with Moon in Virgo. ASC in Cancer, with Uranus in 1st house.


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posted February 27, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LEXX:
Scorpio sun
Aquarius Moon

My mother? "shudder"
I posted this a few years ago.
She has finally left me alone thankfully for a couple years and I hope she continues to do so.
My childhood was a nightmare mostly because of her.
I won't go into all that but my adult experiences are not much better.
Well at least no more whipping me bloody.
[QUOTE]My mother still continues to harass and threaten me and mine, even though ignored. She chooses usually the following days to do her stuff.
The date my sister was killed...Valentine's day...Good Friday...Easter...Mother's Day...Memorial Day...Father's Day...My father's birthday...Her birthday...Halloween...My birthday...My dead sister's birthday...Christmas Eve and Christmas day. Sometimes New years eve and Day too.
My mother believes she is the saviour of mankind and Christ's bride. And damns me for not being a Christian and damns my gay/bi/TG and my black friends. She screams death threats at me on the phone messages, that she gave me life and she can take it away.
She said that she can come like a "thief in the night" to see that the Lord's holy vengeance done.(I have had to get restraining orders against her) She threatens my husband that she will come kill him if he has my body cremated if I should pass first.(my living will states that is my orders, cremation). She then tells me she "Loves and Respects" me and Loves all people just like Jesus does, and then tells me I am evil for fornicating with queers. Fornicating is her word for being friends with gay/bi/TG folk, with or without sexual involvement. She goes on and on about gay sexual acts and goes on shrieking about me consorting with the sodomites and nig&ers. Black folk are black because their souls were burned by Satan in her opinion. Then more love and holy white light and all comes out of her mouth again followed by hate and death threats.
During my parents' divorce she tried to seduce a gay man and he rejected her. She tried to pin my rape on him when she knew it was her own Baptist brother who did it and not that gentle dear gay man.(A friend not a relative, she did not realize he was gay) Then she preaches about lying and bearing false witness being sins. Her brother went on to kill my bi Uncle(his 1/2 brother) who had a daughter with the same name as me. He raped her too some 15 years after he raped me.Weird.
Her favorite Halloween costume is a nun's habit.
Yeah, she does Halloween. And passes out Christian Baptist tractates to trick-or-treaters with little chocolate crosses.
To her sex is only for procreation and the only reason I had 26 misscarriages, some early stillbirths, is because I am damned and my pregnancies were made upon me by incubi & demons. The Lord God Almighty and his Angels told her that! (She calls me a liar when I say I love God and know God.)
Then she would send sympathy cards for some of my losses and how she loves me and Jesus loves me, and if I would just Please listen to her wisdom the Lord told her and his Holy angels who visit her...and give her the LOVE and RESPECT she give to ALL, that I would not have to give birth to dead demons anymore.
[b]She tells me to seek deep "Within" for the truth and to be a warrior against the sodomites and the Catholics and to help the Lord wipe their evil spoor from the face of the earth. Pray to the Lord All mighty to send A.I.D.S to kill them all.
God works in mysterious ways and his plagues will cleanse mankind. Then back she goes to spouting Love Thy Neighbor and honor thy Mother & Father. This can go on some days for up to 19 messages left on my answering machine.

So is it no wonder that it is hard for me at these forums to ignore certain similar attitudes and insults at me mixed with spookily almost the same holier than thou love and respect for all verbal garbage being preached and spewed at me just as she does?

Rant over for now. The thought of her makes me want to vomit.
She is an alcoholic.
Do I hate her? I do not know what to feel about her but pity and disgust and fear of what she might try next. When she visits her friends in Scotland and Ireland she acts normal. Why? Who knows. Maybe because she goes off the bottle then and takes her meds?
????

I ignore her.
It is all I can do.


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Your mother reminds me of those mothers in "Carrie" and "Girls Gone Dead"

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posted February 27, 2013 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend's mother is an Aquarius Moon square Neptune and her mother abused her and her 2 first children (not my boyfriend)


I have Moon square Uranus (saw Moon opposite Uranus being mentioned) my mother doesnt abuse but she drives me kind of nuts and is very weird and uncovential, but shes not mentally ill or abusive at all

I also have Uranus square IC LOL

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posted February 27, 2013 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Exploded Canary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Aquarius moon.

I do perceive my mother as harsh, detached and cold, but she IS harsh, detached and cold. She is an Aquarius sun with Aquarius moon herself. She is not unloving or something like that. But she is definately not the caring mother, never was. She is quite... modern. I have a sort of 'issue' with her, but not something bad..just that coldness..and she wants to be 'taken care of' and also is dominant.. Sometimes she can also be caring, but not so much..to me anyways. She is like this all especially at home.

Relationship is good, and we have a good time together when we go out to no matter where or what. Only she is definately not the stereotype mother, I don't really 'feel' she is my mother. She just is, in her, guess Aquarian, way.

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posted February 27, 2013 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo/Leo Cusp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm a Aqua Moon
Growing up after my parents divorce, My mom was a single parent and had to work alot, so she wasn't always there but because she was trying to financially provide. She's a Libra Sun. Moon Cancer. I respect and love my mother dearly but growing up was a bit rough for me (Transit Pluto square my Moon) and well I kept things to myself and tryed to help her, basically I had to be a mini adult and become responsible at a young age.
I'm very independent person.

But Now as a grown up, We have the best, close relationship, We laugh, talk , and she's my inspiration and I'm glad to have her as my mom. She's a mom, friend, confidant. A genuine person who understands me better than me. I have a really good relationship with her. I have Moon trine Pluto, Moon square Chiron, Moon quincux Venus and Moon square Uranus,

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