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missneptune
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posted February 08, 2009 08:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got an awesome book, and I thought I'd share it with ya!

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According to the book "Astrological Body Types" these are the significators of physical appearance:

1. The moon sign (especially in females)

2. The Ascending sign

3. The sign tenanted by the planetary ruler of the ascending sign.

4. The sun sign. Beware of sign cusps. People born within one, or even two days of sign cusps or borders may resemble their neighboring sign. This is most frequent for people born at the tail-end of one sign. This same rule can hold for cusping ascendants.

5. The opposite sign to the Sun sign. This can be more obvious than the Sun sign for persons born close to sunset or midnight.

6. The planets nearest the ascending degree. Planets conjunct the ascendant take precedence over the sign on the ascendant (should Jupiter be rising in Capricorn, the physical appearance will, in most cases, be more "Jupiterian" than "Capricornian").

7. Any planet closely conjunct the planetary ruler of the ascendant, Sun (except Mercury) or Moon.

8. Any sign possessing two or more "personal" planets, i.e., Mercury, Venus, Mars.

9. Any sign possessing a "stellium" of five or more planets.

10. Stationary planets: This is a planet that has no apparent motion at the time of birth. It is very powerful and may dominate physical appearance. Consider any planetary Mercury, Venus and Mars and one to three days for slow planets. You will need an Ephemeris to determine the exact speed os specific planets on your date of birth.

11. Dominant Element: Fire, Earth, Air, Water. Look for at least two important indicators such as Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or ruler of Ascendant posited in one element.

12. Dominant mode. Rare. Must be an overt dominance


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Libralove09
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posted February 08, 2009 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i find this pretty true.

i remember meeting a girl, all i could pick up from her was 'scorpio'. she was a sagittarius, but i later worked out that she was likely to have a scorpio moon.


my asc/sun are in leo, my moon is in aries, i don't know if i have a firey appearence, you saw my photo thoguh, so you can be the judge, did i look firey? i have 2 planets in virgo - mercury/mars. maybe i looked a bit virgo do you reckon?

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Soul_Dragon
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posted February 08, 2009 08:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting.
:Aries:
I am an Aries sun with a whole lotta Pisces and my sun is in the fourth house making my face round! Im a wet ram, man!
I don't know what a sag is supposed to look like but I was born at 11:45 pm so should I look a little libran?

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heart cakes
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posted February 08, 2009 09:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very very true.

my guy has pluto conj sun in scorpio (exact), and he is EXTREMELY scorpionic. he also has venus in libra on the ascendant, and when he's not scorpionic he's libran and mercurial (virgo 12th house conj AC).

i have a stellium of personal planets (merc, mars, sun) in aqua and i'm very aqua in appearance as well as venusian and neptunian (both conj ascendant). my taurus moon also gives me a taurean structure, which i've noticed in all taurus moons.

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missneptune
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posted February 08, 2009 09:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libralove09, I think you look like a Leo, but the Virgo probably adds to the Leo, I suppose. I still have difficulty figuring out what I look mostly like. I mostly look like a Leo Sun with a bit of a Saturn influence and I suppose I look a bit like my Moon sign. All these indicators also include what your body type is. I definitely have a Sag. body type though.

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heart cakes
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posted February 08, 2009 09:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
missneptune, yeah i'm very sag in body shape too. sag and taurean. my rising and venus, neptune are sag.

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posted February 08, 2009 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what on earth is a sag body?

my assumption is the same as a virgo body.

or are they?

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heart cakes
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posted February 08, 2009 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kinda horse like, usually tall, kinda clumsy, and bouncy (as in, bounce in step). and if i do say myself, a bit dorky. for levity, a sag favourite.

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augentier
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posted February 08, 2009 10:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So...i would look like a..

Sagittarius
Scorpio
(dont know what sign tenanted by planetary ruler means)
Capricorn
Cancer
Pluto & Venus conjunct ASC


And I have a stellium in Sagittarius/Capricorn.

I think I look very Scorpio and especially Plutonian w/ Pluto conjunct my ASC.

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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posted February 08, 2009 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the book "Astrological Body Types" these are the significators of physical appearance:

1. The moon sign (especially in females)
(Pisces)

2. The Ascending sign
(Virgo)

3. The sign tenanted by the planetary ruler of the ascending sign.
(Scorpio)

4. The sun sign. Beware of sign cusps. People born within one, or even two days of sign cusps or borders may resemble their neighboring sign. This is most frequent for people born at the tail-end of one sign. This same rule can hold for cusping ascendants.
(Scorpio)

5. The opposite sign to the Sun sign. This can be more obvious than the Sun sign for persons born close to sunset or midnight.
(Taurus)

6. The planets nearest the ascending degree. Planets conjunct the ascendant take precedence over the sign on the ascendant (should Jupiter be rising in Capricorn, the physical appearance will, in most cases, be more "Jupiterian" than "Capricornian").
(no planets near the ascendant, but I do have Kuiper Belt dwarf planet,Haumea named after a Hawaiian fertility conjunct my Ascendant with 2'10 orb....some people do think that I look like a Pacific Islander even though I am not....also with it being a female archetype,well I do have a feminine look about me..especially if I wear my hair long and have no facial hair)

7. Any planet closely conjunct the planetary ruler of the ascendant, Sun (except Mercury) or Moon.
(Venus conjunct Ascendant Mercury with 3'26 orb and parallel Mercury with 13 minutes of arc......occultation)
(Kuiper Belt plutino,Ixion conjunct Sun with 5 minutes of arc)

8. Any sign possessing two or more "personal" planets, i.e., Mercury, Venus, Mars.
(Sun,Mercury,Venus in Scorpio)

9. Any sign possessing a "stellium" of five or more planets.
(none)

10. Stationary planets: This is a planet that has no apparent motion at the time of birth. It is very powerful and may dominate physical appearance. Consider any planetary Mercury, Venus and Mars and one to three days for slow planets. You will need an Ephemeris to determine the exact speed os specific planets on your date of birth.
(none)

11. Dominant Element: Fire, Earth, Air, Water. Look for at least two important indicators such as Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or ruler of Ascendant posited in one element.
(Dominant water with Sun,Mercury(ascendant ruler),Venus,Moon in watersigns

12. Dominant mode. Rare. Must be an overt dominance.
(Fixed Sun,Mercury,Venus,Mars in fixed signs)

I do have an appearance that is hard to pin down(especially being multiracial and people wondering what I am,mistaking me for certain backgrounds),androgenous,soft,sensitive,
gentle, but intense,penetrating, overall complexed

I have high cheekbones, and my mom says that's from the Native American on my paternal grandmother's side.

I have lips that are full, but they don't stick out, ....a matter of fact, when I smile, they are flat...my upper lip is considerably bigger than my lower lip. My lips are unusual in those ways.

I have light brown skin with yellow tones to it that get to medium brown when exposed a lot to the Sun (my white mother had peaches/cream complexion and my black father had medium-dark brown skin...so my skin is like a mixture of their skin colors), brown eyes kinda almond shaped, and hair that is mixture of kinky(loose), curly,wavy(small) that is very dry as in frizzy looking when it's dry, but looking like jheri curl when it's wet.

I look considerably younger for my age, and that runs in the family too.....I think it's connected to my being darkskinned with having mixtures of Black, Portuguese,Spanish,Italian.......I am not sure if it has to do with anything in my chart. All of the people on my mom's side of the family look younger than their age in adulthood.

I have very long curly eyelashes. That's the most unusual thing about my appearance.
I have thick eyebrows that I inherited from my Portuguese maternal grandfather. I also inherited my overall overall hairiness from him too. I started growing a mustache at 10.

I am 5'11 in height with broad, uneven shoulders.

Because I am part black from my father's side, and so I have the typical black person's build in regards to short trunk,long legs/arms. I have big legs like him too. I was very fast,explosive runner.

My feet are big and wide (should be wearing a 10 EE) with very weak arch. I wear 10 1/2 shoe. I think the shape of my feet factored into my use to being very fast swimmer underwater like using my feet like flippers. I also have big hands too.

as far as clumsy, well....I have Dyspraxia (aka Developmental Coordination Disorder and was known as Clumsy Child Syndrome),and clumsiness is typical of Dyspraxics.


Raymond


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missneptune
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posted February 08, 2009 11:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Augentier,
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3. The sign tenanted by the planetary ruler of the ascending sign.
What sign is the planet that rules your Ascendant, for example if you have Sag. Asc. and Jupiter in Aries you may look more like an Aries than a Sag.

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heart cakes
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posted February 08, 2009 11:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooh i missed that one. i have sag rising, jupiter in leo and hmmmm.. i don't think i look very leonine.

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augentier
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posted February 08, 2009 11:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
missneptune - thanx

my pluto is in scorpio. so i've got scorpio asc w/ pluto & venus in scorpio and both conjunct my asc...speaks for itself i guess

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Arnicka
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posted February 09, 2009 12:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have this book as well, have referenced it many times over the years

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posted February 09, 2009 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Capricorn Ascendant with Saturn in Sag. I am small boned like denoted for most Cap Ascendants with the long face but, the sag influence would explain my fluctuating weight problems....along with my Cancer sun I suppose. *headdesk*

Uranus conjuncts my Saturn and one person, a long time ago, did say they got Uranian vibes from my photo. I think its partially to blame for not wanting to adopt the Conservative-business suit-Cap Asc. look.

Stationary planet? That, for me, would be pluto which is fair enough game since I've been told my gaze is intense. Thats why I try not to stare at people alot but fix my gaze on random objects.

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lunarxtc
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posted February 09, 2009 02:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely an interesting topic, ive read on here somewhere that in terms of beauty and attractiveness, having a Libra sun/moon or asc and/or sun/moon/venus is the most attractive as both signs are ruled by venus.

Also, strong libran influences or an Aries asc indicate LOTSA charisma.

Well, i got a Libra moon, Taurus venus and Aries Rising so i gotta a trifecta of beauty/attractiveness/charisma going on and everything in my life is based on my looks and im not saying this in a positive way. Every male i meet "falls in love" with me, all my girlfriends are jealous and ive had a lot of friendships ruined b/c of it.

I personally dont think im attractive when i look in the mirror but everyone else seems to be floored by it, i have an "unusual" look thats very unique cos no one else out there looks like me. If i had a pic, id show ya but think a cross b/w madonna, uma thurman and gwen stefani (been told i look like them, but then again being unique looking, you dont really look like anyone, they're just the closest i similar too)

In relation to this post:


4. The sun sign. Beware of sign cusps. People born within one, or even two days of sign cusps or borders may resemble their neighboring sign. This is most frequent for people born at the tail-end of one sign. This same rule can hold for cusping ascendants.

im close to the cusp of gemini/cancer, being only 4 degrees in cancer, so i look like a gemini and fit the physical description perfectly. Look nothing like a cancer


8. Any sign possessing two or more "personal" planets, i.e., Mercury, Venus, Mars.

I have my mars, mercury and sun in cancer, they most feminine sign of the zodiac, as it represents the mother and the divine feminine energy (angelina jolie has a cancer moon and cancer rising...wonder what planets Jennifer Aniston has? lol)

11. Dominant Element: Fire, Earth, Air, Water. Look for at least two important indicators such as Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or ruler of Ascendant posited in one element.

Most of my planets are in water

So yeah, in terms of my life and experience, its DEFINITELY true


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missneptune
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posted February 09, 2009 12:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh come on lunarxtc, your beautiful don't deny it! I'm tired of being humble about looks, its okay to admit that you look damn good.

Speaking of obscure beauty, my mother, I believe is gorgeous she is only 18 years older than me, but she looks maybe 30 years old, I know I have some good genes thanks to her! She looks a bit like Laura Durne and Helen Hunt. She is heavily Mercury (Gemini Sun, Virgo Asc., Virgo Moon, and Cancer Venus and Mars) influenced with her Virgo Moon conjunct her Asc. Long big noses run in my family which from a "typical" beauty standard of women this is not considered beautiful, but I disagree with this, I love defined noses!

The Libra influenced can make some very attractive, but not all the time. I know a few Libra influenced people that are not necessarily the most attractive, but then again attractiveness is pretty subjective!

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posted February 09, 2009 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if missneptune says your beautiful lunar, then you must be if she says so!

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missneptune
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posted February 09, 2009 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my lovely musician mother: http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c223/missneptune/l_56bf99a4008db9836e700c2ea1089354.jpg
She has no fire in her chart which is ironic because I'm so firey. She is a Gemini Sun with Virgo Sun and Asc. and her Mercury is in Taurus, also she has Cancer Venus and Mars, and Her Moon is conjunct her Asc. which adds a very feminine nature to her, she has a beautiful singing voice and plays the guitar and is a born performer, she has been in many bands, someday I hope to be in band as well, but I play the drums instead of the guitar.

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posted February 09, 2009 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you look just like your mum from what i can remember, wow!

she doesn't look old, young mum?

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I've got pluto conjunct my sun almost exact in libra and I look and act very, very much like a scorpio. Most people always guess scorpio about my sun or ascendent the resemblence is so strong. But the only personal planet I have in scorpio is mercury, so it's gotta be that sun pluto conjunction. I also have chiron in 1st conjunct asc. 2 degrees in taurus. Now I do resemble taurus, but people always ask me strange questions like what race are you or where do you come from. And I'm full blooded caucasion. I've also been told that I don't look like anyone else and even rude comments that I look strange. Now that really reminds me about magi astrology saying that people with chiron on asc are very "distinctive" in appearance.

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posted February 09, 2009 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Scorpio Ascendent with Uranus Conjunct AC. Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and MC in Virgo. Aries Moon and Cancer sun. Pluto in Libra. Dominant in Earth but water isn't far behind. I seem to be very mutable LOL

I am very pale olive skin, really dark brown eyes and dark brown hair. It's curly and very thick. (Thank god for flat irons LOL) I have a square face but when i put on weight it looks rounder. Marriage has made me fat. haha I don't know I look like myself. Thinking about this I don't notice the virgo influence.

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posted February 09, 2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" Now that really reminds me about magi astrology saying that people with chiron on asc are very "distinctive" in appearance."

That's not surprising. Chiron is after all a centaur, and that means that it behaves like both an asteroid and comet. It has a highly eccentric orbit. All the centaurs are like Chiron in that way. The centaurs named after females like Chariklo(named after Chiron's wife) have orbits that are lower in eccentricity than male centaurs.


also the kuiper belt objects (that includes Pluto) have highly eccentric orbits and orbit well off the ecliptic especially scattered disk objects like Eris and Sedna.


It would make sense that people with a centaur and/or kuiper belt objects conjuncting the ascendant or any aspect to the ascendant could have an appearance that is distinctive. This could be the case with aspects to the Ascendant ruler as well as the Moon and Sun.


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posted February 09, 2009 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A co-worker and I both have virgo rising and we are both short, small boned and have small facial features. When I think of someone looking scorpion, I think of big eyes with dark hair.

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posted February 09, 2009 05:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Libralove09! A lot of people say I look like her, its strange because when I was younger I looked just like my dad.
What do you think makes someone look better as they get older? Do you think it is a Saturn thing?

Scorpio influences confuse me there are those really fair and very watery Scorpios and also the deep set eyed type that look more fiery. This book is interesting because it explains different types of each sign. For example there are Airy/Venusian Aquarians and Earthy Saturnian Aquarians.

Saturn and Uranus are conjunct and about 12 degrees away from my Asc. which supposedly up to 30 degrees from the Asc. effects appearance. This combo adds some seriousness to my face I can look irritated really easily which bothers me because I want to be an approachable person, but it makes me less of a foot in ur mouth Sag. influenced person.

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