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Libralove09
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posted February 10, 2009 04:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message
has anyone feared them selfs? as in.. feared them selfs becoming something they don't want to?

any astrological reasons for this feelings?

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Deliverance
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posted February 10, 2009 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
I have a fear of becoming a weak, dependant woman who gives her power away. It's a scary thought.............

Mars conjunct Sun.
South node in Taurus for self-sufficiency

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Daysleeper
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posted February 10, 2009 04:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I fear jealousy in relationships

Why? I read stories about ppl who kill their lover/ husband/ wife out of it

I am uber rational and will never confess I feel jealous, cause that seems to give away my power and seems to make me like everyone

Funny part is i'm rather trusting and I can't stand jealous, clingy women... I need alone time, just as much as I need time with the lover...

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Daysleeper
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posted February 10, 2009 04:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Being rational about it comes from my moon in virgo

jealousy... venus in taurus

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missneptune
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posted February 10, 2009 05:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I fear no one understands me or that I'll ever be in a long-term relationship.

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Glaucus
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posted February 10, 2009 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I don't want to express my fears because of the Law of Attraction. I read that if you focus on your fears and what you don't want, then they are more likely to manifest. I strongly believe that many things that I had fears of and didn't want manifested becaused I focused on them too much. It's not that my thoughts become reality like in magical thinking. It's that my focusing on my fears and what I didn't want unconsciously led me to do certain things that led to my fears and what I didn't want to manifest. In other words, I engaged in self sabotage.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 10, 2009 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
You should read Alan Watt's Wisdom of Insecurity.
Fear of self is fear of our shadow, and what we don't know about ourselves can manifest in ways which are dangerous. It's best to air out the demons and make them allies.

I uses to be scared of myself, but I am not anymore...and yes, I do still have moments of it, but I refuse to stifle parts of myself and cast them into a purgatorial state - a lot of them are parts of self that are scared and get attention by being 'scary' .... like small children needing attention and growing restless and doing unpredictable things....I feel the best way to deal with that is with love and a firm guiding hand, because otherwise the darker parts of self won't be integrated and will fester instead.

I have Neptune in the 7/8th house and moon in the 12th. I hide my feelings, it's a challenge for me to look vulnerable because I've mistaken it for weakness in myself...but the more I've resisted it, the more I found myself in situations where I AM vulnerable. I've had to work on it so that I am not so threatened to be this way, and it's still hard, but I feel I'm getting the hang of it now, and learning how vulnerability can be strength.

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Libralove09
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posted February 10, 2009 08:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message
alot of you have gone off topic i think..

fear of jelousy, fear of not being understood, etc is not fearing your self. thats fearing something else.

i have emetophobia, i fear/am phobic of vomiting, but thats not fear of my self.

i guess this topic isn't really gonna work, i can't explain my self more clearly because i don't wish to state what it is im afraid of being.

thanks for that reply mvm.

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leapinglemur14
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posted February 10, 2009 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
I always feared I'd become my brother. I know that I can be very destructive and I don't mean by drinking a lot, I mean by destroying things and people.

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posted February 10, 2009 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
I always feared I'd become my brother. I know that I can be very destructive and I don't mean by drinking a lot, I mean by destroying things and people.

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posted February 10, 2009 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
oops dbl post

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 10, 2009 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
That's your Neptune in the 6th, btw Libralove...I've seen several people also with similar stuff happening that have their Neptune in the 6th.

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Libralove09
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posted February 10, 2009 08:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
mvm, my neptune could be in the 5th, and most likely is, but i don't know for sure, i relate to it being in the 5th more.

i need to confirm what my chart really is.

its pretty hard though..

lol @ destroy people.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 10, 2009 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Libralove, I know you and Leaping aren't on the best of terms, but it's not cool to mock stuff having to do with her brother....

Ok, I'll stay out of it now.

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augentier
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posted February 10, 2009 09:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I have a strong fear of never accomplishing my goals ..and never living up to all the potential that I have. But im working on that

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Libralove09
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posted February 10, 2009 09:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
thats a fear of failure not your self, i mean fear what kind of person you are, your own personality concerns you.

kind of thing.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 10, 2009 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
There's no different between what you fear outside or within, it's the same thing.

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Arnicka
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posted February 11, 2009 12:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message
do you mean something like turning into your parent? as a parent turning into the person who you said youd never be?

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aquaspryt69
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posted February 11, 2009 12:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message
What don't I fear about myself would be a shorter list.

I fear liking/loving myself and being nice to myself and saying nice things to and about myself because then that would mean I would be opening myself up to being hurt and feeling pain, which in my messed up mind would be a sign of weakness on my part. It's okay for others,but not me. Self-preservation, self-protection.
Is this what you're looking for Ll09? I have no clue what aspects might indicate this sort of rationale.

*edit to add.
Hmm, I fear I'll always be alone because of the side of my personality I just mentioned. Yes, I fear myself this way because no matter what I do it never changes. It's a personality flaw imbedded in my soul I fear.

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augentier
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posted February 11, 2009 01:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Libralove - it is a fear of my self keeping me from accomplishing anything. it IS a fear of oneself. it's a complete distrust..

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cheshirekat
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posted February 11, 2009 03:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I fear myself sometimes, because Im so sensitive to things and usually it's always the sensitive one's that go crazy and it has shown were I've had strong emotional outburts because I bottle up things inside and there are days were I can't bare to live with myself, it's on a fringe of self-loathing but I am in dire need of self healing.

I think it has something to doing with having a virgo Sun/Pisces Moon, it's like having Sun opposite the Moon but just not natally and Im torn between showing and letting my emotions shine or to put on a facade and protect my inner self from the world.

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Libralove09
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posted February 11, 2009 04:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message
right, im not gonna argue with you both, what your getting onto isn't what im looking for, which is my own fault for trying this in the first place..

but please, use the topic for what your getting onto, see if you can dig up anything astrological about it, its better than nothing.


and mvm, i see no point jumping in, in the first place.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 11, 2009 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
huh? What are you talking about?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 11, 2009 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
You want an astrological aspect for what you fear in yourself, but don't want to say what it is, and don't want anyone to say what they fear either....I don't understand, LL.

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Iqhunk
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posted February 11, 2009 05:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Well said Glaucus.

FEAR: Future Experiences Accepted as Reality

The only reality for us in the Physical Plane is the present moment. Transmute fear to HOPE: Happy Obvious Present Experiencing.

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