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good girl
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posted February 13, 2009 11:28 AM
 
I have Capricorn sun, so once in a while a befriend a male or female with moon in capricorn.
Well, this postion is according to Debbie Kempton-Smith wants to work for your affection, with hold it and they love you more.
Well darn, but it does seem so. Why must I play the emotionally cooler/ rejecting side of me around these people, when I'd rather do my libra "gushing with flattery and love" side?How do you "hold back" to give these people what they need (moon= needs)?
what are other ways to give cappy what it needs without being so reserved? Can anyone relate? IP: Logged |
cheshirekat
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posted February 13, 2009 12:07 PM
Needs: A sense of sercurity, appreciation and acceptance in friendships and relationships.You should be relaxed and easy going around a Capricorn Moon to loosen them up and make them feel comfortable, they are cautious dealing with their feelings and other's feelings, so talk of feelings could make them uneasy but thats not to say they don't feel because they do feel and they feel deeply. After all I still believe Capricorn is a Goatfish, a die hard dreamer with common sense because I've been around so many that it just makes sense to me. I take this from personal experience from my Pisces Sun/Capricorn Moon/Aquarius Rising Mom. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 13, 2009 06:18 PM
My mother's a moon in Cappy - while she's gotten more open over time, there's still a real reserve there, and her moon's in the 12th like mine (interestingly). She rejected her own feelings a lot and was often about keeping a stiff upper lip, acting strong, etc...and to an extent expected it of everyone as well.
Not really very demonstrative outwardly, but about showing love and emotion in tangible ways (often material). IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted February 13, 2009 06:34 PM
I'm a Capricorn. I'm not sure that I relate. I'm not even sure I understand the first post in the first place.IP: Logged |
Deliverance
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posted February 13, 2009 06:42 PM
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Why must I play the emotionally cooler/ rejecting side of me around these people, when I'd rather do my libra "gushing with flattery and love" side?
Why should you hold your self back to appease someone else? If they are your friends, they should like you for who you are including your gushyness. What do you think will happen if you show these people your Libra side? IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 13, 2009 07:27 PM
AG, I think she's talking about Capricorn moons....unless I'm mistaken.....IP: Logged |
Nyah
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posted February 14, 2009 05:47 AM
I'm not sure how much of this is the Pisces in me, but I do have a Cappy Moon that shows quite often.Like cheshirekat said; "You should be relaxed and easy going around a Capricorn Moon to loosen them up and make them feel comfortable", I think that's very true. If people are nervous and weird around me I'll be nervous and weird too. And even when everything is relaxed and easygoing I might take some time to open up, but I will. Just be patient and DON'T point out that I'm reserved or something, cause that will definitively shut me up. If you ask me why I'm quiet or if I'm sad/angry or if you ask me what I'm thinking about - I will look for the nearest exit and leave. Just pretend that everything is normal, and include me in what's going on. Don't stop looking at me just because I'm not saying anything. I will suddenly start talking like I've been talking all night. So, I actually prefer people who can take lead (in the beginning anyway) until I feel safe enough. If you say "come on cutie, we're going for a walk right now to buy food for my cockatoo, and we'll have a hot dog on the way!" to me in a light, fun, nice way I'll probably follow you just because your straightforward but not demanding way of telling me we're just gonna do something spontaneous and casual together appeals to me. But, if you ask me if you can make me dinner a Saturday night I'll probably say no because it would be too soon.. and too serious...  People who hold back and/or play games with me just confuse me and hurt me. Because I'm not playing games at all, I'm just a bit reserved initially... ------------------
Ascendant: Gemini
Sun: Pisces
Moon: Capricorn
Mercury: Pisces
Venus: Capricorn
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winky_winky
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posted February 14, 2009 08:42 AM
I agree, you have to be yourself around a Capricorn moon because they are themselves so withdrawn most of the time...I have been working with a Cappy moon for over a year now, and if you accept that they are ambitious and shy, you will be fine.. Sometimes it still startles me a bit, actually, the fact that they are so withdrawn and afraid of showing their feelings but I have come to accept them and see the good points: like the fact that they are very loyal and un-sentimental. This is sometimes an advantage, I would say... IP: Logged |
scrappydog
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posted February 14, 2009 12:52 PM
I really relate to what Nyah said, I'm very much like that. I'm a cappy moon in 8th square saturn. I can be really withdrawn and detatched. When I don't feel comfortable with someone or a situation, I withdraw and shut myself down, I'm standoffish. Sometimes people mistake cappy moons for being cold, were not. I am so emotional, very deep. Our emotions are just deeply buried and controlled. I read a book once that described the goatfish as something like the goat represented the strong, stable side of cap that steadily climbs upward in the world and the fish tail for the depth of emotion that they posses.IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted February 14, 2009 12:57 PM
Does all this apply to cappy venus too? IP: Logged |
Nyah
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posted February 14, 2009 01:03 PM
since I have Cappy Moon AND Venus it's sort of merged for me... don't know which traits comes from where exactly.not to mention I have these aspects as bonus...
Moon Conjunction Venus
Moon Square Pluto
Moon Trine Saturn
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Arnicka
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posted February 14, 2009 10:40 PM
you have to respect their ambitions/serious side - don't downplay that part of them cause that can really hurt. im not saying go all out and praise em to high heaven cos they wont like that, but respect and have patience for their hardworking side. give them that space and distance to open up and when theyre able to see that youre not trying to monopolize them theyre more likely to show their sweet and funny side. and they can really funny and very sweet.hey nyah i have moon conj venus in cap as well, both are square to pluto.. pretty close 1 deg each. as well as pisces sun and aqua merc IP: Logged |
Nyah
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posted February 15, 2009 06:16 AM
Arnicka, cool can you relate to this also?
I've gotten the comment "loosen up!" so many times at parties and such, I'm so sick of it... that kind of comment will just make me sad and angry.. Most of the times I'm actually already happy and relaxed (for me anyway) when they say that to me, so I don't even know what they mean half of the times and that really hurts... seriously, it has happen so many times that when it happens now (and when I'm drunk I might add) I will just tear up right away and leave... they must think I'm really disturbed hahahhaa!I used to hate drinking because it made me loose the self-control I always have (I guess). Well, the last 3 years or so after a break-up from a really long relationship I sort of revolted against all of those control-issues (which I also was applying on my partner), I was so sick of being the serious one... So I changed my drinking habits and I became the one who does the craziest things and has to be carried home or pass out somewhere.
Now when I've calmed down a bit I realized that it was some sort of test, like "if I loose control completely - is there anybody there to catch me when I fall?" and it turned out I've got plenty of people around me... I don't have to be strong all the time.. hmm.. but, I'm through with the testing, it can be kind of dangerous lol  I was also gonna add that I have a close friend that I love and respect deeply, and we are so much alike in many ways.. Currently she lives in another country so we write e-mails to each other, and it's always very honest and open.. she can talk to me about stuff she never tells anyone else and vice versa.
The funny thing is we can't really talk when we actually see each other! It's almost awkward... there's like an emotional barrier that we both have, a wall... and we can only show our true selves in writing... She has Capricorn rising and Mars, and then she's very much a Virgo... I think this is something to consider about Capricorn influences... Write instead and you might get a different response  IP: Logged |
Ranti
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posted February 15, 2009 08:50 AM
OMG I read through the thread and can only think to myself how good it would be if I have this kind of insight say, a year ago. Actually yesterday I just added that last straw to my Cappy Sun/ASC special someone and guess it's all over now. What a timing! Everything everyone said here makes sense and I did all the opposite. Cancer me! ** alright, got carried away by some of the comments but to get back to good girl's question - I think we can take a look at other 'bright side' of Cappy and stress on that when we're around those people. Not reserved but you know, be determined and tactful and disciplined and take thing slowly always in control and so on. IP: Logged |
evander
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posted February 15, 2009 10:06 AM
I have a capricorn Moon.
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Why must I play the emotionally cooler/ rejecting side of me around these people, when I'd rather do my libra "gushing with flattery and love" side?
good girl, I think that capricorn moon doesn't take things lightly therefor gushing with flattery and love will make me question your motives... not everybody is like this. But I am. I think that consistent cool emotions can get you a lot farther then intense love and flattery. I pulled away a lot from the people who weren't reserved. I found them to be destabilizing influences. people who remain in my life are mostly aries scorpio and capricorn moons with a rare aquarius one. a sense of needing me is a very fast way to get me out of your life.. Respect, keeping an open mind and acceptance are definitely something to be if you want me around. I've gotten the "loosen up" quite a few times too. Thing is I am loose. I just don't smile when I don't have reasons to nor do I cry when I don't have reasons too. I love drinking excessively but besides loosening up the exterior it doesn't really do anything for me. I do about the same amount of crazy stuff I usually do written from a perspective of:
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good girl
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posted February 15, 2009 04:11 PM
Sorry for those who thought the post is confusing. It's because I wasn't sure what I wanted to say, it was a feeling I couldn't quite put my finger on. Yes, I was specifically talking about moon in capricorn. One of the things that spurred me to this was remembering how my best friend and I had a doozie of a fight. At that point I told her it was over. (after all there is no point in fighting, we either get along or we don't need to spend time together)She flipped out got all clingy and dramatic. It was then I remembered her horrible relationship with her mother and realized she must have moon in capricorn. Thus she needed me to play out that rejecting mother but with a happier ending (this was before I got back into my astrology habit and check out her chart- sure enough moon in cappy).
Anyway it dawned on me how important it this fight's outcome was to her, because it was in her eyes- her mother rejecting her all over again. (I'm 10 years older than her and a cappy, so I fit the bill). I got a grip on my anger and we made up.( Once I understood the psychology of it, I have empathy)But she acted like she was losing her mother.
Now, this was the extreme example of our relationship, but since then I am aware of the dynamics of our relationship in a way I wasn't before. Anyway so now I play mother to my best friend (I'm not complaining, I'm sure people play their roles for me too)And we do have fun, alot in fact. This is just the main dynamic of our relationship. what else can I roleplay besides Mother, and still fulfill that "need"?
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leapinglemur14
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posted February 15, 2009 10:21 PM
what about mars, neptune, uranus and saturn cappy in the 10th house?placements of a guy I'm dating...It's not serious, we've agreed to keep it casual due to the fact that we're young and don't want to be tied down. He seems to run hot and cold with his emotions, or what he tells me they are but when it comes to his actions, like MVM said they show in materialistic ways. For example even though we've only dated a week he bought me flowers for valentines day and when we go out he always pays.
its weird for me bc I'm very touchy feely and have just started being more open about my feelings so I'm wondering how to deal with it? His placements seem prominent, he's so concerned with money lol IP: Logged |
good girl
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posted February 15, 2009 10:31 PM
I would think those positions would also make him more reserved, responding to people who either act out those postions (acting like the capricorn traits) or bring that capricorn side of him out. I think there is a part of capricorn that responds to, if not some rejection ,then at least to people who make them work for affection. Capricorns are not one of the signs that are used to having things come along and fall into their lap. (I'm speaking strictly pure cap of course).I think they value things they have to work for and that includes loved ones. IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14
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posted February 15, 2009 10:41 PM
well he's a pisces so it does ground him. I have to make him work for affection? yea...this will not work...I can be overly affectionate at times. I think moon in virgo can def relate to that reserved emotions part.as for your role...maybe an older sister? IP: Logged |
Arnicka
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posted February 17, 2009 02:59 AM
hi nyah, not really the "loosen up" phrase exactly but a co-worker friend of mine became a closer friend (as in friends outside of work) and one day i showed up at her place in jeans and sneakers and she exclaims "oh my gosh ive never seen you in jeans" etc, as if me dressing so casually makes me more human or something! whereas at work its much more tailored and fashion-y. but i do get the "you look so sad" comment umpteen times it's almost something i anticipate the pisces can get the watery eyes you know, and then the capricorn brings the weight of the world look so i guess the 2 combined can look kinda sorrowful. but i wont be feeling sad at all, i'll just look it. or the evil cap moon glare... i can do that one really well! cos we can look really evil! hahaha. you know one who has pisces sun, cap moon> nina simone. i really like her music and it seems a lot of capricorn moons do as well. the more melancholic stuff.i can also relate to applying control issues to the partner.. being so used to living within a confined mental emotional space and just drawing the loved one into that web. it gets tiring after a while! i agree with the capricorn energy being a bit more distant in person than over the phone or in writing. i guess its the fear. capricorn's big on fear. an ex of mine: sag sun, cap moon merc venus, aqua mars. and from the moment we met - so intimidated you have no idea!!! i wanted to run away as fast as i could, that voice just kept telling me "walk away you can still walk away you dont have to talk to him." and i just stood there in total fear i was so, just, overwhelmed by him from the first second. and can you believe hardly a month later this same guy is confiding all these personal things to me, and saying i'm the only one he would trust with his feelings, the only one who would understand, etc. I guess it helped my moon venus conj his moon. Would have never *believed* that this same man would end up being so vulnerable around me, and thats how it usually is for me: the more fear in the beginning the better the relationship turns out to be, with regard to sincerity etc. hey so what's it like for you with other moon cap men? if their moons conj your moon and venus? for me i more often that not just fall sooo deeply for them. almost guaranteed, and i can spot em real quickly! IP: Logged |
Nyah
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posted February 17, 2009 04:07 AM
Arnicka, gosh I get that comment in different versions all the time.. "are you sad? angry? depressed? bored?" and so on... And funny thing about the "evil cap moon glare" haha My aunt actually told me that I really scared her when I was like TWO years old because I would just intensively stare at her ha ha ha  I also think that it might be very true about Caps that they get younger and younger... I feel more relaxed and young every year lol I used to be sooo serious... And Nina Simone.. oh yes, loves her... I don't think I've met any Cap Moon men actually (that I know of)..ok maybe one, and I think maybe we both were so guarded that it never progressed anywhere...
But I've met a lot of Cap Suns... love them! I feel so safe, secure and taken care of... unfortunately I often think of them as friends, while I end up showing them how to get in touch with their emotions and loosen up a bit (oh the irony! but I think my Pisces Sun comes in play when we get close to each other) - so they adore me because how I make them FEEL but they can never be enough for me in the long-run... or something like that, to be slightly general... Fear in the beginning, that's interesting.. I'm gonna think about that for a while.. IP: Logged |
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