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heart cakes
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posted February 15, 2009 10:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
how'd that one go? i've read some kinda contradictory stuff about it; aka power struggles, dealing with substance abuse and stuff like that. i kinda like this description:


MOON OPPOSITE PLUTO: This aspect indicates a fertile relationship: a great energy links Antonio and Melanie and the sexual attraction is also intense and rigenerating. It always indicates a therapy for both the partners: one makes the other change without any intention. This is an extremely intense relationship, often determining a dependent feeling, even in a positive way.

we have this aspect; an exact opposition. i'm pluto, he's moon. it's intense alright but it does not feel like a power struggle. anyone else have experience with this one?

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heart cakes
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posted February 15, 2009 10:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message
wow, i just found this. very interesting. it's from ask annie on cafeastrology. now, i don't find any of this to be occuring, but then again, i'm the pluto person. he IS very in tune with my moods but he has not expressed any sense of being under my thumb, either verbally or otherwise, and we have very open communication. what an interesting dynamic though. i'll have to pay attention and make sure none of the negatives here occur.

Relationship astrology, or Synastry, is a very complex study. I cannot go into too much depth in this column, but you did touch upon a very important aspect in the synastry between your chart and that of your partner: Moon Opposition Pluto.

With an interchart aspect in synastry, the person whose outer planet (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto) is forming an aspect with the other's personal planet (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, or Mars) generally "holds the cards", so to speak, in terms of how the aspect will play out. Still, the person whose personal planet is involved plays a part as well.

In the case of you and your partner, your Moon opposes his Pluto (this is a very tight aspect, and thus especially significant). Your partner wields plenty of power over your emotions, and he will need to deal with this "power" constructively. You are certainly not powerless, and you can do much to help ease the situation as well.

When somebody has a planet closely aspecting our Moon, our basic sense of emotional security is affected. With his Pluto involved, your emotional security is very much tied up in him and you can feel somewhat emotionally dependent on him as a result. You will be especially vulnerable to any mood swing on his part, sometimes giving too much power to him because you feel somewhat like the child in the emotional chemistry between the two of you. This sensitivity can render you quite vulnerable to emotional blackmail on his part, simply because he may see your sensitivity/dependency as a weakness rather than a strength.

Your dependency on the relationship may ultimately weaken it, as he will have a keen awareness of your need for him. If he is not handling the energy well, he can easily take the upper hand when it comes to where your relationship is going. Something about him makes you feel insecure, as if part of you feels the relationship will end without warning and against your will. He makes you very aware of your own emotional dependencies and insecurities. His desire to control you stems from fear. You react emotionally in your relationship with him, and he cannot help but know how to "push your buttons". Whether he uses his finely tuned awareness of your emotional psyche to help you or to control you is up to him. However, it would be wise for you to examine the emotions that this man brings out so effortlessly. Know that what he pulls out of you is PART of you, and that he can help you to heal some of your deeply seated wounds. He may not do this directly, but through your relationship with him, you will get in touch with the insecure child inside of you. Be aware that the more you acquiesce to him, the more emotionally dependent on him you become, the greater his tendency will be to want to maintain that control. Remember that it is not him as a person that is making you feel dependent--he is only a trigger for what lies within you. If you can learn about yourself through him, instead of thinking of him and your relationship with him as the answer to your problems, then you will be in a better position to control your own life.

What we tend to do when our personal planets are in strong aspect to the Pluto of significant people in our lives is to give our power away to them, thus opening ourselves up to manipulation, confusion, and dependencies. Learning to regain our sense of individuality and strength is vital to our own mental/emotional health, as well as to the health of our relationships.

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augentier
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posted February 16, 2009 12:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message
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MOON OPPOSITE PLUTO: This aspect indicates a fertile relationship: a great energy links Antonio and Melanie and the sexual attraction is also intense and rigenerating. It always indicates a therapy for both the partners: one makes the other change without any intention. This is an extremely intense relationship, often determining a dependent feeling, even in a positive way.

that sums it up best for me. i have this aspect (2 deg) with someone..im Pluto in Scorpio and he's Moon in Taurus..

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posted February 16, 2009 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I have this with everyone in my generation LOL. I'm moon in Aries.....so anyone with Pluto Libra opposes my moon. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it unless it's tight.

Even then, it's not terrible. The moon person feels it and is drawn to the Pluto person, and there are power struggles, touches of obsession. I don't think it's that bad though.

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posted February 16, 2009 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
i hv moon pluto conjunct
i am moon
its a wide orb 7 i guess
but then again my pluto also conjct his asc 4 deg

so i dont know which one is the reason
power struggles, emotional manipluation (by me )....i am blamed to be controlling (well sorry i cant help i am a leo and i hv to boss arnd)....at points obssessive in a scary "cant let u go, no matter what" way ...lost without u...sort of...and it all me

but i think he tries to control my emotions.....

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posted February 16, 2009 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i have had this and the bond was very strong. some of the dynamics above definitely prevailed. he was often testing me (moon) to see if i would stand up to him. it WAS transformational, there were power struggles, and we are STILL friends - 30 years later. though we are not "together" anymore and it was definitely not all fun along the way, i wouldn't have missed that relationship for anything!

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heart cakes
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posted February 16, 2009 01:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message
wow! okay i am breathing a sigh of relief here. the orb is tight; under 1 degree.. also, we are 6 years apart, so it isn't really a generational aspect for us. and the thing is, he doesn't talk about his feelings much, and i do, so sometimes i worry his feelings might be going under the radar, so to speak.. but i ask him on occasion and he says he would definitely tell me if anything bothered him. we DO seem to be pretty obsessed with eachother though, that is forsure.

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