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Topic: Same signs = No aspects??
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Fancy Face
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posted February 17, 2009 12:31 PM
Can you have your Moon in Capricorn and his Mars in Capricorn, and still not have any Synastry aspects together involving these planets?  IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted February 17, 2009 12:36 PM
There's 30 degrees in each sign. A synastry conjunction really needs to be within 4 degrees, and I'm sure some Lindalanders would argue with me on that point for being generous in orb. Plenty of space for non-conjunction. However, being in the same sign still gives off some compatibility of energy. IP: Logged |
Fancy Face
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posted February 17, 2009 01:10 PM
blue moon, thank-you for explaining that there are 30 degrees in each sign. I did not know that basic astrology tidbit.
My Cap. Moon - 4 degrees
His Cap. Mars - 22 degrees
This must mean there is too wide an orb. distance between us to have that conjunction. True?IP: Logged |
Green Fairy
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posted February 17, 2009 01:54 PM
IMO an 8 degree conjunction can still work, provided it's in the same sign.Just because there are no aspects though, that doesn't mean there won't be some sort of natural affinity between those two. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted February 17, 2009 02:01 PM
^^^I agree, just having someone's mars in the same sign as your moon can create enough buzz.IP: Logged |
Fancy Face
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posted February 17, 2009 02:11 PM
Thank-you 3X! We definitely have a buzz ( like that word), that is why I was questioning the nonexistent conj.IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted February 17, 2009 02:34 PM
Generally, in synastry we need to halve whatever orb we would allow on a natal chart. There is some disagreement on how wide this would be, personally I would say 8 degrees for a conjunction on a natal, 4 on a synastry. But others on LL would say narrower is required. As long as we are consistent. I would not allow 8 degrees for a synastry conjunction nor 16 degrees for a natal. I'd say that was too wide. There's some elastic in astrology, but there is a danger in stretch so far we are trying to force things to fit where they don't. It is the astrological equivalent of trying to squeeze yourself into underwear 2 sizes too small. You might want to think your butt is that tiny, but sorry, it isn't. If you know the basics, you will know the chances of you sharing the same Moon/Mars combination with someone you bump into in the street is not that improbable. Conjunction? Far less likely. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted February 18, 2009 12:28 PM
Yeah, the sarcasm got on my nerves on this one. 30 degrees is 30 degrees. At one end you have a conjunction, at another you have a semi-sextile. Then you have a whole load of space in between. If it isn't the answer people want to hear, tough, it's the answer you will be getting.
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darkdreamer
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posted February 18, 2009 12:41 PM
BM,I ABSOLUTELY agree with you on this one. I used to use far more generous orbs, but they didn`t work, except for creating a vague feeling of similiarity (in case of the conjunction). But having the planets in the same signs does neither bring a couple together nor does it make their relationship last.
For me some kind of "epiphany" struck me, when I realized that the aspects originally actually are derived from the astronomical connection between Sun and Moon, especially full- and newmoon - opposition and conjunction.
If you transfer the time a fullmoon is considered a "real" fullmoon into degrees of orb, you actually get an orb of about 3° to each side. It`s NEVER more than 3°; that is the reason I use this orb, at least in synastry, and even in natal I tend to take those aspects, which are within 3° as VERY serious, while the others may still be valid, but not as strongly felt.
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blue moon
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posted February 18, 2009 12:55 PM
Thank you. Sometimes the basics get forgotten, or worse, leaped over on the way to conclusions that were formed before picking up a chart. IP: Logged |
Fancy Face
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posted February 18, 2009 04:30 PM
blue moon ~ Were you upset at my posts? I would like to understand astrology in a little more depth. I'm a new learner. I remember going to the bookstore with my mom as a pre-teen and reading books with her.  I appreciate your answers. Hopefully I am comprehending all the info. correctly. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted February 18, 2009 04:45 PM
Online it can be hard to work out if someone is being sarcastic but it seemed a genuine enough question. It doesn't help you any that astrologers will disagree about what makes an acceptable degree for a Conjunction. But few will disagree that is far too wide for a synastry conjunction.
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Arnicka
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posted February 18, 2009 11:17 PM
Yes I believe there's energy between the 2 based on the respective planets being in the same sign, but of course there's more to be said for them being in orb. Anyway, have you heard about plactile aspects?? Two planets being in the same degree (of any sign)? There are delineations for synastry plactiles here:http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/compatibility-love-horos copes.html IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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From: nevada
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posted February 19, 2009 07:28 PM
Hello and Welcome to LL Fancy Face  IP: Logged |
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