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Topic: IQ please - medical asteroids?
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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 18, 2009 05:53 AM
 
Hi IQ , or anyone else who knows! Do you happen to know any asteroids associated with past lives that are related to general healing, being a physician, apothecary, etc?
I can't seem to find Thoth...
So far, I've used: -Apollo
-Asclepius, his son
-Hippokrates
-Chiron? Can I use Discovery and Karma too? I have a client who I'm doing a past life read for, and I have a very strong feeling that he's been a healer/physician in the past, I did a report for him and I'm looking to confirm now: *Asclepius in Sagittarius in the 1st house, exactly conjunct his 8th house ruler (Neptune), semi-sextile his 6th house ruler (Venus), sextile Pluto, ruler of his 12th, and sextile his Mars. Does this mean anything? *Hippokrates opposes Chiron and square his Sun. *Apollo (if this means anything) square his MC ruler (Virgo), opposes Uranus. What do you think? Should I do Draco? Does this stuff mean nothing?
I don't want to get too obsessive about this, but I'm pretty interested 
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Iqhunk
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posted February 18, 2009 06:03 AM
Just check for HYGIEA (10) making strong aspects to Moon, Saturn, Chiron and KARMA from Draconic to Natal.
You are on the right track with Apollo, Aesclepius and Hippokrates but Hygiea is stronger. ------------------
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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 18, 2009 06:09 AM
Thanks, IQ!
Ok, just for natal so far, Hygiea (in his 6th) exactly quincunx the Moon, but no aspects to the other stuff.
Gotta look at the Draconics....thanks again!IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 18, 2009 06:20 AM
Ok, so...I'm keeping these tight: *natal Hygiea conjunct draconic Saturn *draconic Hygiea trine natal Chiron *n Hygiea square d Karma I have to look for more later, I'm tired LOL IP: Logged |
Iqhunk
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posted February 18, 2009 06:24 AM
Why look for more? You have found direct proof, exactly as suggested before you used Asteroid Hygiea. The client was definitely a healer in the past lifeline. ------------------
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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 18, 2009 06:33 AM
Woohoo! Thanks, IQ  IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 19, 2009 02:29 PM
Well, this is quite interesting! IQ,I just learned after doing the reading for my client that he is currently enrolled in medical school and had been questioning his path, and is now more confident about his choice of education and career!!!!!!This is great! I'm very glad I asked you about these asteroids for confirmation - absolutely wonderful, thank you again! IP: Logged |
Iqhunk
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posted February 20, 2009 08:44 AM
Most welcome MVM, glad I could help.IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain
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posted February 20, 2009 04:18 PM
Hi IQ, I actually kind of had a question along these lines... I mean it might be too specific but is it possible to tell what sort of medicine a person would have an affinity for from their asteroids? Im starting medical school and very much leaning toward surgery. Being a Sun/Merc/Mars gemini, I read recently when going back through Linda's Sun Signs that Geminis are known for hand dexterity and may be surgeons.... it piqued my interest.On the other hand people tell me all the time that as a woman it would be virtually impossible to be a cardiothoracic or neurosurgeon or trauma surgeon (the three types I am interested in), and have a family. I honestly *do not* want to get married or have children, so this irks me, but at the same time I DO have Libra rising and Venus in the 7th which confuses me.
Anyhow I also have a strong libra/7th and Scorpio influence in my chart (Moon/scorp) being in the second house (and north node in Taurus), and people have suggested psychiatry and dermatology, two fields I am not at all interested in. Any ideas on how to look for long term success or power/understanding of a certain body part based on the asteroids (or planetary/house aspects)? Thanks in advance IP: Logged |
vesta-sister
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posted February 21, 2009 01:33 AM
Secret, maybe this site can help http://www.greekmedicine.net/medical_astrology/medical_astrology.html IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 21, 2009 01:55 AM
SecretGarden, I can't say anything about the astrology but I do say pfffft! to those telling you can't do something you feel passionately about...because you're a woman, or for whatever reason. IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain
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posted February 21, 2009 03:18 AM
vesta-sister: what an interesting website! I am loving it. It is more of a patient perspective but nonetheless it does say Geminis are relate to nervous system (neurosurgery is actually my number one choice and has been for the past year, which in Gemini universe is equivalent to a long time  ). I am very intrigued by it however; makes me want to go back and analyze my chart. I had heard before that Geminis and Virgos (mercury) are influenced by allergies, and I know of myself and two other Geminis who have chronic allergies, a Virgo which terrible allergies and my sister with Virgo Moon and virgo stellium (prominent merc in her chart) with severe asthma that stemmed from childhood allergies. Very interesting.MyVirgoMask: Thank you for your kind words... I have been having a kind of rough day (ugh) where I want to sleep early just so the day can be over lol. But your encouragement might have saved the day here. I've been shadowing this neurosurgeon for over a year now and my first day in the OR I had all these surgeons and anesthesiologists telling me right and left that I couldn't handle the fourteen hour neurosurgeries. Well, its a year later and Im still around which surprises them , but they stay silent and cynical instead of realizing that they may have misjudged me. *shrug* If there is one thing that I know how to do well it is hear one thing in one ear and take it out the other when I Have my mind set on something (darn that stubborn obsessive Pluto with all its disastrous aspects in my chart). But I hate this attitude that women can't or shouldn't be surgeons because they might regret it. No surgery is performed with one's reproductive parts, and I don't see why they should play ANY part in determining how much perseverence and hard work a person is capable of! IP: Logged |
izodesmozina
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posted February 21, 2009 09:47 AM
SecretGarden, Perhaps the people who advised you to reconsider your choices did have your best interest in mind. It IS harder for a female surgeon, not because you can't handle it, but because of the archetipal role you play, as a woman, in society and in the family. When you spend 12+ hours at the hospital each day it's pretty difficult to raise a child, cook, clean or even get a damn manicure (coz, hey, you're a doctor, you have to look good). For men, things are a lot easier. I am a female surgeon and I also used to think I can do it all, if I set my mind to it. But there comes a time in your life when your priorities in life change... Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that maybe those people weren't saying "you CAN'T do it because you're a girl", but "make sure you WANT to do it for the rest of your life". However, it is your decision and if it feels right to you, by all means go for it. I know how hard it is to make this decision, I've been tossing and turning for a couple of years too! I've seen a couple of surgeons' charts and most of them had a Mars-Mercury aspect (not always positive). Also, there is usually an aspect between Chiron and Sun, Ascendant or MC (for doctors, in general, but more so for surgeons). Look to your MC, the sign it is in and the aspect it makes + the MC ruler (sign, aspects and house).
This is the chart of a friend of mine, who's a neurosurgeon in his 1st year of residency. 
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SecretGardenAgain
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posted February 22, 2009 01:18 AM
This is my chart:  IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain
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posted February 22, 2009 01:22 AM
I understand the concern; but some comments (especially from men) have been outright about being a female and handling the field. I've never actually had to respond to them; the surgeon I shadow always steps in (hes a triple Gemini) and says "thats the most sexist thing Ive heard all day!!! Of course she can do it!" If it irks him, you can imagine how it would irk me (Sun/merc/mars in gem). However, like I said I am very clear on one thing in my life which is I dont want to get married or have children, and never had even before medical school or career considerations. So even if I Wasnt a surgeon that would not really be on the agenda. Thanks for your tips. They are very helpful... I dont see any merc/mars interaction in my chart. I feel like I have a prominent mars because it is in Gemini and close to Sun and merc, but not conjunct I believe. Also, MC is cancer and moon is in 2nd house in Scorp conjunct Saturn. I feel moon is strongly placed in my chart. We shall see Thank you all for helpful and kind words! IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2009 01:22 AM
Oh, also I have sun and mercury conjunct chiron. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 22, 2009 02:05 AM
I can't see your chart  IP: Logged |
izodesmozina
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posted February 22, 2009 03:14 AM
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I understand the concern; but some comments (especially from men) have been outright about being a female and handling the field. I've never actually had to respond to them; the surgeon I shadow always steps in (hes a triple Gemini) and says "thats the most sexist thing Ive heard all day!!! Of course she can do it!"
Yeah, I know those comments... Unfortunately, in surgery, there are a lot of people who still think like that. Just mind your own business and, in time, they will see what you're made of. It's nice that the surgeon you work with defends you, it is very important that your mentor believes in your abilities. quote:
However, like I said I am very clear on one thing in my life which is I dont want to get married or have children, and never had even before medical school or career considerations. So even if I Wasnt a surgeon that would not really be on the agenda.
I think this will be to your advantage. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying it's very difficult. On the section I work in, out of 6 female surgeons, only one is married and has a child, and she is a resident and had to interrupt her training to do that.
This is the chart of the first female neurosurgeon (I don't know her birth time). She died last year. She was married to her mentor, and also had kids, but admits to have neglected them because of her career. She was quite a woman nonetheless! 
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izodesmozina
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posted February 22, 2009 03:36 AM
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I dont see any merc/mars interaction in my chart. I feel like I have a prominent mars because it is in Gemini and close to Sun and merc, but not conjunct I believe. Also, MC is cancer and moon is in 2nd house in Scorp conjunct Saturn. I feel moon is strongly placed in my chart.
I think your Mars in Gemini (deposited by Mercury) can fill in for a Mars-mercury aspect  . Unfortunately I can't see your chart either. Try posting it again.
For the MC in Cancer would also fit OB-GYN, since Moon has to do with birth, but the sign of the MC doesn't always pinpoint what you do, sometimes it's just a hint about *how* you do it. However, your Moon is in Scorpio - bingo! Scorpio is BIG with surgeons (going below the surface), of all specialties (but, again, emphasizes OBGYN because Scorpio rules the reproductive system).
Moon (MC ruler) conjunct Saturn is another good aspect for surgery. I have my MC ruler conjunct Saturn too. First off, medicine requires looong trainings. You get to really practice on your own in your 30s. Then, you need lots of patience and self-control. Speaking of self-control, another aspect that seems to pop up in surgeons' charts is Mars-Saturn. You can see the conjunction in my frien's chart, the first female neurosurgeon has the sextile, and I've seen it quite often. I have the opposition myself (though not a brain surgeon). quote:
Oh, also I have sun and mercury conjunct chiron.
Very helpful! Especially Mercury-Chiron (healing with the hands). Not to mention that Mercury rules the nervous system. As you can see, Sofia Ionescu also had the conjunction. And my friend has Sun-Chiron-NN conjunct in Gemini, deposited by Mercury.
I have Chiron conj Venus, both opposite MC, and I do plastics. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 22, 2009 03:44 AM
Izo is very thorough, it's good to have someone who's working in the same area and who knows astrology Wish I knew more...I only know you'll do just fine and the hell with those who get in your way (that's Aries Moon astrology and psychology ) IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain
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posted February 22, 2009 04:23 AM
Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Gemini 11°19'15 in house 9 direct
Moon Scorpio 23°55'14 in house 2 direct
Mercury Gemini 4°23'07 end of house 8 direct
Venus Aries 26°02'52 in house 7 direct
Mars Gemini 24°57'16 in house 9 direct
Jupiter Aquarius 16°56'58 in house 5 stationary (R)
Saturn Scorpio 23°34'41 in house 2 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 16°11'25 in house 3 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 2°48'47 in house 3 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 2°21'26 in house 1 retrograde
True Node Taurus 18°07'52 in house 8 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house. House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Libra 7°00'21
2nd House Scorpio 4°34'34
3rd House Sagittarius 5°11'22
Imum Coeli Capricorn 7°38'11
5th House Aquarius 10°01'43
6th House Pisces 10°17'52
Descendant Aries 7°00'21
8th House Taurus 4°34'34
9th House Gemini 5°11'22
Medium Coeli Cancer 7°38'11
11th House Leo 10°01'43
12th House Virgo 10°17'52 Major aspectsSun Conjunction Mercury 6°56
Sun Trine Jupiter 5°38
Sun Opposition Uranus 4°52
Sun Trine Ascendant 4°19
Moon Quincunx Venus 2°08
Moon Quincunx Mars 1°02
Moon Square Jupiter 6°58
Moon Conjunction Saturn 0°21
Mercury Quincunx Neptune 1°34
Mercury Quincunx Pluto 2°02
Mercury Trine Ascendant 2°37
Venus Sextile Mars 1°06
Venus Quincunx Saturn 2°28
Mars Quincunx Saturn 1°23
Jupiter Sextile Uranus 0°46
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°27
Neptune Square Ascendant 4°12 Sorry for the no show image... I've always had this problem despite checking out the image posting guidelines . But here are my aspects and positions above. Basically my chart is reversed (Libra rising) and I have stellium in Gemini (9th house), and Scorpio (2nd house). I also have my chart ruler (venus) in Aries in the 7th conj my DC but that probably has little to do with my career. Although I would say an Aries man I was with a few years ago probably introduced me to medicine as a calling since he did nonprofit medical work, and since then I discovered a major passion for it and started my medical school trek IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain
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posted February 22, 2009 04:33 AM
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I think your Mars in Gemini (deposited by Mercury) can fill in for a Mars-mercury aspect . Unfortunately I can't see your chart either. Try posting it again.
For the MC in Cancer would also fit OB-GYN, since Moon has to do with birth, but the sign of the MC doesn't always pinpoint what you do, sometimes it's just a hint about *how* you do it. However, your Moon is in Scorpio - bingo! Scorpio is BIG with surgeons (going below the surface), of all specialties (but, again, emphasizes OBGYN because Scorpio rules the reproductive system).
Moon (MC ruler) conjunct Saturn is another good aspect for surgery. I have my MC ruler conjunct Saturn too. First off, medicine requires looong trainings. You get to really practice on your own in your 30s. Then, you need lots of patience and self-control. Speaking of self-control, another aspect that seems to pop up in surgeons' charts is Mars-Saturn. You can see the conjunction in my frien's chart, the first female neurosurgeon has the sextile, and I've seen it quite often. I have the opposition myself (though not a brain surgeon).
How interesting, I find the chart you posted fascinating on so many levels. First off, MC in taurus gives prominence of course, to money and career, and perseverence (which any surgical residency would require). She also has two stelliums in her chart, both in fire (strong, masculine) signs. She has strong uranus and saturn aspects, giving her an unconventionality as well as stability. MC ruler Venus is prominently placed near merc and chiron, and in Aries which I recall Linda saying is the one type of woman least likely to need male presence in her life.... strong Aries presence seems to given women this flavor in my experience. Mars singleton women tend to be very strong and give men a run for their ambition (I have two friends with this placement). Mars-saturn, once again is a very interesting aspect especially entering a field which is traditionally very male dominated. I have fairly thick skin though and although these things do bother me (sexist remarks and such), its never enough to even for one moment deter me from being in the OR since I just love it so much. I find myself wanting to be there when I'm hanging out with family/friends...or whenever I have a spare moment. It's like a true passion uncovered How amazing plastics must be. I always thought plastics required immense finesse in comparison to all other surgeries.... particularly ortho Although I do have respect for orthopods hehe. MVM: Thanks for your moral support... means a lot sometimes especially since I Feel some hard transits hitting me (bleh). But my chart ruler in Aries agrees with your Aries moon IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2009 03:23 PM
SGA, You have an interesting chart, and surely with plenty of surgery hints. I don't know if it "screams" neurosurgery, but you should go with your gut feelings on this - if this is what you like, if this is what fascinates you and keeps you asking for more, then doubt no more! I think you're having Neptune by transit squaring your Moon (MC ruler) and Saturn, perhaps this is why you're having second guesses. I understand this perfectly, I had to chose my specialty under t-Neptune exactly square my MC, how confusing that was! But no matter how big a transit is, if your heart is clear then ask no questions and just follow it. I find Sofia Ionescu's chart fascinating too, but unfortunately I don't know her birthtime and I set 12:00 arbitrary (my guess is she has Aries on her MC, Aries rules the head and brain, some say; also it would make sense to have Sun (fame), Mercury (dexterity, nervous system) and Venus in her 10th house (she did find love through her career), meaning she probably has Cancer on her Asc - I saw some pics of her, she was kind of short and thin, she looked very tiny actually). Hard to tell  http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/781/10667/2883607/1/03_confesiuni.jpg Is your birth time accurate? You could try to do a MC persona chart on astro.com (but even 30 seconds make a huge difference on the chart). If your birth time is accurate it can bring a new perspective. I don't remember much about my MC persona chart, but I know the MC for that chart was Virgo (plastics requires finess indeed), with Mars and Venus in the 10th, which made perfect sense for me when I saw it.
MVM,
If you want, I can give you the birth details for all the medical professionals I have on my records. I don't have time and energy to research their charts for more details at present, so if you want to do it let me know.
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