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scorpio90
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posted February 21, 2009 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpio90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just wondering

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posted February 21, 2009 06:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nothing.

just getting out there and making money does.

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posted February 21, 2009 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jupiter or venus making positive aspects with other planets in the 2nd house surely helps..

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posted February 21, 2009 08:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VM, what about mars?

with positive aspects?

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posted February 21, 2009 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know about Mars, unless it rules the 2nd. And make sure the planets aren't Rx

A nice aspect from Saturn might help as well, because it might indicate some stability with the money.

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posted February 21, 2009 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes sure any planets with positive aspects will work..but with mars, you also like to spend it quickly

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posted February 21, 2009 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got a nice trine from Jupiter to my 2nd ruler, but a square to Saturn....

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posted February 21, 2009 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Saturn--builds discipline.

I have a pitcher-chart with my 2nd House Pisces Jupiter as the spout. I've never made a lot of money, and I care about material things less than your average Leo, BUT...I've always been incredibly lucky, finding big bills on the street, finding perfect bargains, having people want to buy me things. I always have what I want or need financially. Friends who earn 4x as much $$ as I do wonder how I do it. (Also, I'm very disciplined about saving/spending--I'm Cap Rising, with Saturn trine that Jupiter.)

Although...in the equal house system, my Jupiter is in the 3rd...that fits too.

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posted February 21, 2009 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My second house ruler is conjunct ascendant and sextile mars. But saturn is in second square venus. I don't know how to make much money and my family I guess is middle class. Don't have much money but aren't poor.
I hope someday I do learn to make money, though I don't care to be a millionaire, but have enought to feel safe...

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posted February 22, 2009 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Venus rules own possessions, Pluto other people's possessions. Jupiter is expansion. I hear any aspect between Pluto and Jupiter. Venus-Jupiter aspects can produce some level indulgence I have noticed.

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posted February 22, 2009 11:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am NOT wealthy by any means..however it always seems I come across money when i need it. I end up finding another job, my parents loan me some without me asking, my tax return turns out to be really good, lol..etc. things like that.


I have a huge stellium in my 2nd house...Sun, Mercury, Moon, Neptune, Saturn, Uranus. The ruler of my 2nd house is Jupiter, which is in my 4th house, conjunct Mars and trine Venus.

I think the Jupiter being the ruler of my 2nd house and being in my 4th shows where I get lots of financial support from my parents (especially my dad).

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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posted February 24, 2009 01:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what i keep reading about/seeing are jupiter pluto conjunctions, or maybe other aspects if the orb is tight enough, have also heard jupiter mc.

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posted February 24, 2009 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very influential astrologer told my mother in the beginning of 90s that I will be very successful and wealthy in my 30s. I'm in my 20s now so nothing is really that great. But I do have Jupiter in Taurus in 2nd house opposite Venus in scorpio in 7th. The position of my Jupiter is exactly the same as Aristotle Onassis.

He does have Jupiter trine Venus though and his isn't retrograde...

edit: just checked. his is rx too

Who know. I'll let you guys know in 10 to 15 years

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sag sun, cap moon,sag mercury, aries mars, scorpio venus

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posted February 24, 2009 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if one's venus is the 2nd ruler?

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posted February 24, 2009 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does rule my 2nd house from the 7th. Aka, getting money from public partnerships, marriage etc ... and aspected by jupiter and pluto ...

so try to apply the analogy .. if venus rules your second from the 9th and is well aspected, you get money from dealing with abroad busnes... high education...

just my 2cents

and I bet there are alot of asteroids worth checking out

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posted February 24, 2009 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for matt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 24, 2009 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a person who will inherit lots of money.
They have an 8th house stellium.

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posted February 25, 2009 01:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey evander, through a marriage or partnership sounds like. good money instincts with jup 2nd.. seems like a nice combo.

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posted February 25, 2009 06:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being wealthy is purely a state of mind.
In terms of net worth in the current top currency though, my favourite aspects are:

1. Sun conj TYCHE in 5th House with a Capricorn Ascendant and an Aries Moon along with Mars and Venus in second unafflicted by anything. Saturn should NOT be in 5th nor 2nd.


2. Triple Capricorn [The great Dhirubhai Ambani is the world's richest man ever in terms of Purchasing Power Parity and starting from scratch. He has Asc, Sun and Moon in Capricorn.]

3. MIDAS conj TYCHE conj ABUNDANTIA in 5th
all 3 being direct.

I am not a fan of Jupiter for cashflow, Jupiter expands the Knowledge Bank than the gold vaults.

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posted February 25, 2009 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree IQ. Maybe i'm Cappy AC cos l am naturally fairly wealthy and l will inherit some money.


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posted February 25, 2009 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a chart of a woman who is a family friend. She's had complete financial safety for every moment of her life. Her dad was in the oil busyness, a very powerful, influential man. He opened every road for her. Unfortunately she was very poor in all other areas of her life

After reading Iq's post I've added all asteroids he mentioned. Not surprisingly Tyche conjunct AC conjunct MErcury conjunct Midas

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posted February 25, 2009 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG
well, looking at my professionally rectified chart, l have
NN/Saturn 18' aries
Moon 20' aries
Venus 21' aries
AC 23' aries
Tyche 25' aries
Jupiter 25' Leo

so it must be right.
WOW, l never knew that about Tyche.

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posted February 25, 2009 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tyche is the Greek equivalent to fortuna correct? represents the capriciousness of life and a goddess of fate? I've read something 23 said about it long time ago. But I must admit, I don't look at it's position very often

My Tyche is trine Jupiter (orb 1) ! And very widely conjunct moon in 10th house Capricorn. There just might be hope for me yet


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sag sun, cap moon,sag mercury, aries mars, scorpio venus

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posted February 25, 2009 11:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have midas conj part of fortune h11 with neptune opposing their mp. and that abundant chickee is conj my uranus. hmm

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posted February 26, 2009 03:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many secrets of Tyche to be revealed in my e-book, pls stay tuned...

Thanks for the confirmation Evander!

Lara, inheritance is primarily the Capricorn principle. This principle will help multiply money safely when it holds the Aries principle on a moderately tight leash [so as to not stifle its entrepreneurial spirit totally and yet prevent speculation], and applies the generosity [Law of TenFold Return] principle of Sagittarius.

BTW, If you or anyone inherits a 6 digit plus amount, check Asteroid Gold and Silver in your charts. If they are unafflicted and
if Silver is below 20$ an ounce, cooly put 20% of funds there, store it in your own bullet proof vault [never trust banks to do that] and forget about it for a decade. I did predict Gold to clear 1000$ an ounce in many internet forums, next decade Silver will have to clear 100$ an ounce as historically, their ratio is 10:1. If any of you truly wants to get materially wealthy, study the origins of our currency system, it is a big bubble surrounded by a house of cards!
Just invest in knowledge, metals [when down], and plenty of rich agricultural land. And of course, your own service oriented business.

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