posted February 21, 2009 06:52 PM         

In synastry, it seems if a person's neptune is making a hard aspect to any of his/her partner's personal planets, (especially venus, moon, or sun) the neptune person will lie or deceive the partner in some way or another. I think that's why Neptune gets it's reputation as being one of the indicators of infidelity. If a hard aspect between Neptune and personal planets shows up in a composite, I think it shows a relationship that will have many lies, secrets, and both people being dishonest with eachother, and the inability to see one another clearly.

Also, when it shows up in a natal chart, it's supposed to make the person more susceptible to deceiving others, and actually deceiving themselves too.

I think that situation with Elliot Spitzer and that hooker is very "Neptunian".
He gave the illusion of being the perfect husband, father, respectable citizen, governor, but all the while was lying and deceiving his wife, family and citizens of this country, using our money to fund his prostitute. He was living a double life. He has a tight square between his neptune/venus and Neptune/moon, both under 2 degrees.

I know everyone has the potential to be unfaithful and deceive others, but it seems with this hard aspect it makes it a little more likely.

I would love for someone to prove me wrong because I would really like to befriend Neptune, so any experiences, or rebuttals are welcome!

posted February 21, 2009 07:05 PM           

what sucks anyway, is i have this aspect generationally. lol

the square between my neptune and moon is tight (2dgre)

the square against my venus isn't so tight, its 7 dgrs

i guess one start of this, is my name on this forum lol (deceiving in two different ways..).

posted February 21, 2009 07:20 PM         

I think if you have hard aspects of Neptune in your own chart then it might not be *as* bad if it shows up in synastry because you are used to the energy - and it can be generational (I do not think we should discount this). But if it's tight aspect, 3 degrees or less, then yeah, it would suck.

posted February 21, 2009 08:46 PM         

as a pisces asc i feel the need to stand up for my chart ruler.

er...g2g but will be back to edit post

posted February 22, 2009 02:27 PM         

I think people with neptune hard aspects in their chart end up being dishonest with themselves most of the time therefore end up being dishonest to others. Right and wrong seems more subjective to them, and anything can be justified to fit into their fantasy world.

I have neptune opposed my moon, very tight, under 1 degree. I realize now, thinking back on past relationships, that I was emotionally dishonest to myself and my partner several times, but I never thought of it as cheating because I never did anything physically to cheat. That was me in my neptunian fog!

Do you think hard Neptune aspects can get better, and mature as one gets older, and becomes more self aware.

posted February 22, 2009 02:32 PM           

my chart just sucks, coz all my outer planets apart from pluto, are in terribly hard aspect to all my main planets apart from my sun and mercury.

and everyone born in my generation, has these planets pretty much at the exact same degree.

i need to find a Milf.

posted February 22, 2009 02:36 PM         

LOL!!!

posted February 22, 2009 02:40 PM           

i need to find some one born around 83 - 86.

then those outer planets won't be hitting up my personal planets. lol

edit: Lara, thats a lie, you know somehow we need to settle this venusian war. so give this Libra Lover a try!

besides, its us younger boys who label the women milfs, milf's don't label them selfs milfs!

you don't wanna hump your self do you? oh this is an aquarian riser after all. lol

posted February 22, 2009 02:45 PM         

I don't see it as anything hard. I like my neptune (conjunct moon). Any aspect has it upsides and it's downsides .

That being said. I have this friend who has synastry Neptune conjunct Moon and Neptune of his girlfriend. It's the most serious relationship they've both been in. And it was love at first sight. He still doesn't see her blindspots. And I say let people walk without their illusions shattered as long as they are happy.

Doesn't a part of all of us crave ideal love, at least some of the time? How would we ever find it without Neptune

And what about all the charm neptune gives to a person. I for one couldn't live without it!

posted February 22, 2009 10:04 PM         

Take some time and really think about what makes a person lie. The deeper reasons, not just the obvious or surface greed. In some way, shape or form everyone lies. Lying is one of the strongest defense mechanisms after anger, which is number one before aggression and violence.