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Topic: Very Passive Virgo?
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 11:08 AM
Ok...So, I have been dating a virgo..sort of and his birthday is on September 7, 1983 and I must say, he rarely initiates anything and has very little drive. I am the one who is usually making phone calls, giving ideas where to go/what to do...I am the man in the relationship.:P When I talked to him about it, he said that in his opinion, everything is fine. Now, he knows that he is very passive and that that is something he would like to overcome. Some background: both parents are Leos, his mom is the boss and the father is horribly passive and sad to say, a doormat. Mom puts everybody down, father likes to stir things up. His brother is also a leo and the black sheep in the family. The house is drama-filled. His ex-girlfriend of three years burned him. It is just so odd to meet men like this, I am biased in terms of thinking that men should be action/aggressive/alpha male sort of beings. Ok, maybe not too aggressive but...I am a scorpio and I need to feel dominated at times. Anyways.....there is another forum I like to post and I read a thread where the user (female) was complaining about the same thing....and guess what? Her virguy's birthday is on September 7, 1982! What a coincidence! So...is it a)his chart? b)he is not in love with me, so maybe he would be more aggressive if he were in love with me? c)his parental background? d)his relationship background? What is it? IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 144 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 01:34 PM
It's the same birthday but not the same year. There is likely to be strong differences between the charts of the two men. If you put up the one you want looking at you might get some more replies. Without a place or time of birth you won't get the same accuracy, it will just be a very broad look at what someone might be like born on that day somewhere. The 5th possibility is that he likes you being in charge. He's right, that's not a problem if you are both happy that way. IP: Logged |
writesomething unregistered
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posted February 23, 2009 01:54 PM
Virgo men need to be chased most of the time. Not suggesting to do it...but Virgo is a feminine sign. Theyre really clueless on the typical "male actions". Theyre authentically clueless. If youre "sort of" dating him...thats a good sign. This is why I stay away from Virgo men...LOLIP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 02:03 PM
Thanks Blue Moon.You are very right....both charts are very different and I don't know the birth time of any of them. But using astro.org....this is what I get for Mr. September 7, 1983. What is missing is, of course, his rising sign. Him: Sun Virgo Moon Virgo Mercury Virgo Venus Leo Mars Leo Jupiter Sagittarius Saturn Scorpio Uranus Sagittarius Neptune Sagittarius Pluto Libra True node Gemini Chiron Gemini This is the link to his chart. I don't know how to upload it on the post. http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&g if=astro_w2gw_01_mil_jok_hp.68335.21342.gif&res=63&va=&cid=uc2filefADNHS-u1235415534 quote: The 5th possibility is that he likes you being in charge. He's right, that's not a problem if you are both happy that way.
Well...but if only he could be a little bit more alpha sometimes. Writesomething Thanks for letting me know. Too late. :P I have moon and asc in Taurus, so maybe the patience and the earth compatibility helps a bit. I find I am too tolerant and flexible. Maybe it is my Mars in Aqua....
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VirgOh Knowflake Posts: 8 From: New Jersey, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 05:09 PM
Hey writesomething, can you please enlighten us about your so called "Male Actions"? I want to see if I am male enough or maybe need an extension. Thanks! IP: Logged |
writesomething unregistered
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posted February 23, 2009 05:51 PM
LOL... making the first move. suggesting going out. calling out of nowhere. calling in general. they leave everything up to you..the girl, and i hate it. i like to feel like a girl, d@mnit! lolyou can go on for years thinking he doesnt love you, and someday out of the freakin blue, they say it. but its always too late....
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Libralove09 unregistered
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posted February 23, 2009 05:53 PM
whats your chart like, writesomething?thats a lot of anti-virgo feelings thrown in the air lol IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 05:54 PM
making the first move. suggesting going out. calling out of nowhere. calling in general. they leave everything up to you. Wow...that sounds just like him. You know, he used to be different at the beginning. But, I guess that was just a mask. VirgOh Add on..I want to hear from the Virgo men.... IP: Logged |
Mama Mia unregistered
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posted February 23, 2009 05:57 PM
I dated a couple Virgo's and I have a son with a Virgo man..I can see some of these traits in them but they called and asked to take me out and stuff. They were slow some what because the way they love to analyze everything but for the most part it wasn't that bad..But this is not the first time I am hearing this from a woman about a Virgo man.. IP: Logged |
Libralove09 unregistered
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posted February 23, 2009 06:00 PM
i can understand the making the first move part, but the rest of that list is a load of sh1ze.its a sexist world, in my opinion, the rest of the stuff you listed should be balanced between two people, says my venus. LOL. if the man is not making any effort, thats not cool. but saying you don't wanna do it either, and you want the man to make all the effort, but then you don't make any effort in return, well i think thats just hypocritical sexism.
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VirgOh Knowflake Posts: 8 From: New Jersey, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 07:58 PM
I dont subscribe to that category of timid passive Virgo's sorry, I am way more aggressive than that.So please dont generalize. One misconception about Virgo males is that just because it's a feminine sign people start to think that we are like women in nature when in reality it's the core that remains untouched and pure like a Virgin. I think the guy is not doing any of that because he is either bored or because he got her already, she needs to push the right buttons. IP: Logged |
writesomething unregistered
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posted February 23, 2009 08:24 PM
virgoh- then youre probably one of the rare few virgos who arent like that. ive had 2 virgos fall for me, and have dated a couple throughout the years...ive had strange experiences with them, and all of them being where they werent masculine and forthcoming. most of them are sweet, and complete gentlemen...but the femininity in the virgo males is very obvious in my experience...i attract shy, timid men...obviously.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 08:56 PM
Writesomething, what's your Mars in? It may have something to do with it, the placement/house/sign, etc. so that your experience with men like this is less than stellar.Any time I get men who are like that, I have a really short fuse personally. I look at my Mars in Taurus in the 1st house, opposing my Venus and square Jupiter, so my guys aren't usually passive at all, and if they are, I challenge them (read: Scare them off ) , which is probably my Venus oppose Mars. I don't think I've ever dated a Virgo, so I don't know. I don't see Virgo males as either aggressive or passive, kind of somewhere in the middle. VirgOh is not passive obviously - he's got his own Mars in Taurus from what I recall, and I think his sun is in a fire house, so that changes things a lot. But if you check your Mars in your chart, it says something about the boys you attract (and check your 11th house cusp too) IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 3 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 09:19 PM
Virgo men...... ... ... ... exasperate me. I'm qualified to speak on this. I married one. IP: Logged |
VirgOh Knowflake Posts: 8 From: New Jersey, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 23, 2009 11:48 PM
Future Uncertain, tell us a bit about his characteristics, lets compare.What is your Sign anyway? IP: Logged |
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Arizona Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2009 12:07 AM
I do believe some Virgo men do need to be chased because of their calm and aloof way of carrying themselves..it just depends on whether or not your up for doing the chasing lol! Dramatic displays of emotions aren't for them. It also depends on Moon sign to as to how aggressive he will or won't be. My first love was a Virgo(but with a Taurus moon), and he was very shy and quiet. I was one who went after him, doing the calling and the wooing..and of course making the first move I think he enjoyed it though for awhile. But then again I am a yang woman who chases yin men lol! ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer "I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me" IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2009 01:23 PM
quote: I think the guy is not doing any of that because he is either bored or because he got her already, she needs to push the right buttons.
Such as? I mean, he even wants me to tell him what to do, at times. As in, if he needs to do something, he sometimes asks: When do you want me to do it? or when should I do that? I am thinking....what in the world! Man, make a decision for yourself, please! It is as if he needs people to make decisions for him but he does not like me to tell him what to do. His Mars is in Leo...but what could be his rising sign? My Mars is in Aquarius, by the way. IP: Logged |
VirgOh Knowflake Posts: 8 From: New Jersey, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 24, 2009 05:22 PM
How old is this guy?IP: Logged |
babeefoxx unregistered
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posted February 25, 2009 01:18 AM
You'll need to know his birth time in order to find out his ascendant. His moon is in Virgo, too? That's a lot to work with! But not completely hopeless. Yes, Virgo men ARE exasperating and very much clueless, but their true emotions are often stifled or unexpressed. You said he was previously scorned, I'm sure the reason why he is timid with you is because he is afraid it may happen again. My best advice for you is to lighten up on the contact, don't obsessively call him or check up on him, if he really cares he will come to you. If he asks why the change in your communication, let him know that you've been trying and don't feel the effort you put in is paying off. It'll make him think. But most of all, be completely honest and don't beat around the bush. He needs to gain your trust.When you find out his ascendant, it'll unlock doors about his personality.
------------------ I love my Virgo <3 S: Aries ASC: Libra M: Cancer V: Taurus M: Gemini IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 25, 2009 11:31 AM
VirgOhHe is 25 years old. quote: My best advice for you is to lighten up on the contact, don't obsessively call him or check up on him, if he really cares he will come to you.
I just want to talk about it with him though. I mean, I rather converse and tell him that this is not something I feel very comfortable with anymore and for him to tell me what is going on or what he wants. Knowing him, if I do the following, he will assume that I am not interested anymore and that will be it. I know it may sound confrontational but I rather talk about it than play games. This time is going to be serious. I tend to be very patient and tolerant but we had another situation where he wanted me take over. I won't go into details. All of his exes have been older than him. I don't know if that means he wants someone like his mom, dominating, controlling and always in charge. Just saying this because older women are more likely to be the boss compared to their younger lovers. But most importantly, is this something that a virguy would feel comfortable with? This talk? IP: Logged |
Fierce Dravidian unregistered
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posted February 26, 2009 05:24 AM
It could be his bacholor syndrome. Virgos are generally passive or gentle or both and from the Starsky & Cox viewpoint this is a man born in a feminine sign so the alignment is not a complete one in the manner in which the alignment is complete when females are born in feminine signs.IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 26, 2009 12:22 PM
I see…..I think that is what writesomething mentioned. Where are the Virgo males of the forum? I want input from them.
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VirgOh Knowflake Posts: 8 From: New Jersey, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 26, 2009 11:56 PM
Yes, it is something a Virguy would feel comfy with provided you spin your message right, without hurting his feelings or stepping on his ego or belittling him, simply be considerate Just an FYI, Virguy's are not big on conquest, in the male / female arena they are not too concerned about who leads who as long as there is mutual respect and understanding. I assume there is, right? IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 27, 2009 11:33 AM
VirgOhYes, there is a lot of respect and understanding. He actually trusts me. I have heard that is a big thing for virgos. But, he is not fond of criticism so I am thinking of ways to say it without making him feel attacked or belittled. IP: Logged |
VirgOh Knowflake Posts: 8 From: New Jersey, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 27, 2009 04:04 PM
Cool, let us know his reaction, that'd be interesting IP: Logged |