posted February 27, 2009 08:49 AM         

For example I’m currently going through the ‘wonderful’ Uranus trine venus and Uranus trine mars transits and I haven’t noticed a thing - no surprises or romance, it’s just boring business as usual for me. I had these transits from May to August last year and they were disappointing. I wasn’t even in a cheerful mood and felt very low. At the moment I’m down in the dumps again and I’m actually thinking these Uranus transits are doing me more harm than good. Sorry to rant, but every year I look forward to my upcoming trine and sextile transits, only for nothing positive to come out of them. Nothing ever happens! The only transits I do notice are the squares, oppositions (yuck!) and sometimes conjunctions.

Is it the same for you?

My chart: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&&cid=6h7fileERFtHp-u1234348730

Regards,

Miss Mystic

posted February 27, 2009 11:11 AM         

I believe that effort has to be put in for events that are in correlation with those transits for events to happen.

Trines,sextiles are soft aspects, and they don't really have that push like the other aspects do. Unless trines and sextiles are part of an aspect configuration (with corresponding midpoint configuration)like grand trine,minor grand trine,kite, they won't really manifest as events. That's how cosmobiologists and uranian astrologers view sextiles,trines those transits.

The hard aspects are so energizing that they can push you to act,and so events can manifest as result of your actions.

another thing too....hard aspects can override soft aspects when the occur at the same time.

For instance, I felt transiting Saturn in 12th square my Midheaven more than transiting Uranus in 7th trine my Venus in my 3rd and transiting Jupiter in 5th trine my Ascendant when those transits were happening at the same time. I was definitely in the dumps,and it was connected to missing my exgirlfriend. Because I was missing my exgirlfriend, I didn't do anything that set me up for events that fit the easy aspects.
If I did go out and enjoy myself,I might have had pleasant romantic experiences with another woman.

Free will is the ultimate factor. I can't stress that enough.

I believe if a person wants something to happen, he/she shouldn't wait for it to happen. I believe the person should make things happen.

I noticed that transiting Saturn was conjuncting your Saturn at the same time transiting Uranus was trining your Venus-Mars.

Your Saturn is closely conjunct my Ascendant and my Venus is closely conjunct your Venus-Mars. Therefore we both experienced the hard Saturn and easy Uranus transits at the same time.

What you told me about your experiences fit my own.

so yeah.....I do believe that hard aspects can override easy aspects. Saturn hard aspects can REALLY override easy aspects involving Uranus,Jupiter,and Neptune.

The Uranus transits could indicate the possibility of just wanting change,independence,to break free in some way. It could also indicate an increase interest in Uranian things like Astrology. For instance,transiting Uranus trine Venus could be an interest in looking at lovelife/relationships through Astrology.

Raymond

posted February 27, 2009 11:45 AM           

I have seen Pluto sextile Pluto work very well though for the generation born 1984-1985. My wife is an example, she cared two hoots about spiritual knowledge but suddenly seems to be observing and
co-relating enlightening events.
Its scary

posted February 27, 2009 12:02 PM         

I also believe that Right Ascension transits should be too. Some transits could even seem to last longer because of Right Ascension(equatorial longitude coordinates that astronomers use to locate objects).
It's about to make an aspect by Right Ascension when it's about to finish the same aspect by ecliptic longitude.

Wide orbed ecliptic longitude aspects could seem to work early because they are making closer aspects in Right Ascension

for example,

currently I have:

Transiting Jupiter in 12'21 Aquarius
square my Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio

in Right Ascension:
transiting Jupiter in 14'57 Aquarius
square my Mercury in 15'32 Scorpio

I also look at the declinations too. I have definitely felt my Saturn declination transits. I am currently feeling transiting Neptune parallel my Sun.

posted February 27, 2009 12:50 PM         

Kind regards,

posted February 27, 2009 01:22 PM         

It was transiting Saturn conjuncting your Saturn and not square.

You had your Saturn Return. That indicates the time that you realized that you're an adult and the responsibilities that you have as an adult. Your Saturn is in your 2nd house,and so it has to do with security which can be about selfworth,finances,possessions.

So it could be a time that have to work on your security. It's not conjuncting your Saturn right now, but transiting Saturn is retrograding in your 2nd house. Therefore,it's time to reflect on security matters.
it's squaring your Neptune in 5th, and that can indicate that structure,realism conflicts with idealism,inspiration in the areas of creativity,self expression which also involves romance.
This seems to indicate a time of insecurity connected to issues with self worth and romance. Hard Saturn-Neptune transits can indicate potential for depression,suffering,health issues but it can also indicate keeping your idealism,inspiration,imagination grounded,practical. If you don't,there can be much disappointment.

Transiting Uranus is in your 8th near your 9th house cusp, trining your Venus-Mars in 4th, and that can indicate sudden,unexpected matters,change involving romantic,sexual relationships that affect the domestic environment,unconscious, and could be connected to the past.

please keep in mind that trines are easy aspects,but they can be lazy. If there isn't action taken, events that correspond with those transits aren't likely to happen.

Transiting Jupiter is 10 minutes away from going into your 7th house and that can indicate a time that there can be expansion involving relationships,dealing with other people. It can also be personal expansion with it being opposing your Ascendant. Transiting Neptune,Mercury,and Mars are in your 7th house. That indicates idealism,communications,passions can influence relationships,others in your life right now. Transiting Juno is in your 7th house too,and that's a strong emphasis on relationships. so there is strong activity in 7th house, and so it can indicate a time for relationships. at the least,you have concerns about relationships.

but seeing that transiting retrograde Saturn in your 2nd house and square your Neptune in 5th, it seems that you should work on your security first before getting involved in a romantic relationship. This could be a time that you develop a better relationship with yourself,and so it may not be relationship with others. If you have a better relationship with yourself,then that paves the way for you to have relationship with others.

It all depends on what you do.

Raymond

posted February 27, 2009 02:14 PM         

conjunction corresponds with Aries
opposition corresponds with Libra
waxing square corresponds with Cancer
waning square corresponds with Capricorn

Aries,Libra,Cancer,and Capricorn are the cardinal signs, and they all have to do with action and initiation.

semisquares,sesquiquadrates can be action oriented because they are 8th harmonics which are multiples of 4. 2 X 4 = 8.

btw....I believe that if events occur during a sextile,trine transit, then the person probably has conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,sesquiquadrate transits....even if it's a transit to a midpoint....even transiting midpoint.

parallels,contraparallels can be involved in events too

posted February 27, 2009 02:19 PM         

You just went through a Saturn Return. That has probably been more noticeable than a Uranus sextile transit.

posted March 03, 2009 04:22 AM         

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I don't believe that trines and sextiles are event-oriented aspects like the conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,and sesquqiuadrate are. I believe that effort has to be put in for events that are in correlation with those transits for events to happen.

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posted March 03, 2009 07:33 AM         

Thanks

posted March 03, 2009 11:08 AM         

No...it doesn't mean that at all.

It just means that Cosmobiologists don't believe that hard aspects are bad. That's why they only look at hard aspects for events and don't bother looking at soft aspects.

Hard aspects are only used with midpoints. The soft aspects aren't.

from COSMOBIOLOGY FOR THE 21ST CENTURY by Eleonora Kimmell

pages 19 - 21

"Much has been written about aspects and special aspect combinations in rare birth charts within the various house systems. Cosmobiology takes a drastic step by eliminating much tradition for more realistic and scientific views. Through years of teaching, I have observed that new students immediately form opinions about aspects (good or bad). They hang onto trine aspects for dear life, and build up a fear of squares and oppositions that is very difficult to eliminate. Too much emphasis has been placed on the type of aspect,instead of the planets which are involved in the aspect."

"In Cosmobiology, trines and other so-called harmonious aspects are classified as merely conditions in an individual's environment and not as good fortune to be realized at some point in the future. Trine aspects are an inherent component of an individual's character,personality,and ego; they are not guarantees of glamour spots in life"

"The square aspects, also present at birth, are on the other hand, generally considered to be the misfortunes to be confronted in life. It seems as though some astrologers have invented a game in which the winner has an abundance of trines and the loser has a quagmire of squares!"

"The square aspects represent the conditions which are seemingly thrust in our path as we live life. The conditions can be mapped and their severity calculated, but they are by not means instruments of fate or bad luck"In Cosmobiology, the degree of difficulty presented by hard aspects is determined by the definitions of the planets involved. But the means by which the influences are manifested depends upon several factors, including the environment, genetic makeup, sociological-political conditions and the reaction of the individual in a positive or negative manner."

"So it can be seen that square aspect is not intrinsically bad; it is only the reaction of the individual that cause so much turmoil in the interpretation. The continuing improvement of traditional methods also has led to this line of thinking, so it should not be difficult for the student to see how all angular relationships between the planets are interpreted. For those of you who severely question this proposition, recall an obstacle in your life or a difficult situation or time and ask yourself whether it was the aspect alone that made it so."

"The cosmogram (90 degree circle) does not technically allow trines,sextiles,or semisextiles, and since research shown that their meanings are not greatly valuable in interpreting a person's reaction to the planets, they are not included in cosmobiological texts."

"While many available textbooks emphasize the type of aspect, cosmobiology does not. For instance, in traditional astrology Mars square Uranus is unfortunate, while Mars trine Uranus is fortunate. This type of classification can be misleading because it disregards four important properties of aspects which are taken into consideration in cosmobiology."

The combination of the unique characteristic of each planet involved.

The role a particular planet aspect plays in relation to the entire chart as a unit.

How the individual chooses to react in given circumstances (positively or negatively).

Environmental conditions.

"The possible reaction is always more pertinent to a given case than whether there is trine or square aspect involved. In analyzing the nature of the planets involved, Saturn stands for separation and restriction, and Jupiter for luck and abundance. Together, the planets (even though in a square aspect) could produce an influence indicating a lucky separation-- an all of us have experienced these fortunate separations in our lives."

I am in agreement with the cosmobiologists. I believe that if events do occur during soft aspect transits, it's because we're experiencing hard aspect transits at the same time. They could involve midpoints too.

it makes sense that conjunction,opposition,square are action oriented aspects because they correspond with the cardinal signs of the zodiac where the equinoxes and solstices begin
Conjunction - Aries - the sign of vernal equinox
Waxing Square - Cancer - the sign of summer solstice
Opposition - Libra - the sign of autumnal equinox
Waning Square - Capricorn - the sign of winter solstice

Many astrologers don't look at the semisquare,sesquiquadrate either. The cosmobiologists regularly do.

Transiting Pluto is sextiling my Moon right now, and it's been a time for transformation. However,transiting Pluto is also semisquaring my Mercury. That can indicate a time of transformation too.

posted March 03, 2009 11:34 AM         

I would think that transiting Jupiter square natal Venus would be felt more because it's a hard transit. Therefore,it's an event-oriented transit. It's in synchronicity with experiencing things in your life that push you into action.

Transiting Jupiter square Venus can be an event that involves beneficial love,relationship.

It's not viewed as bad in Cosmobiology.

I will be looking forward to transiting Jupiter square my Venus, especially when it will be conjuncting my Moon/Node midpoint and squaring my Sun/Jupiter midpoint at the same time. I have Venus conjunct Sun/Jupiter midpoint,square Moon/Node midpoint in my natal chart.

My Venus is in 21'47 Scorpio. You and I will be experiencing the same transits to Venus too. Our Venuses our closely conjunct. I will be curious how yours turn out. We could compare.

Because our Venuses are closely conjunct, we both have Venus conjunct the fixed star, Unukalhai. I have the conjunction with only 7 minutes of arc. I have definitely experienced problems in love.

Alpha Serpentis *
Unukalhai Success followed by fall, suicide, insanity, accidents, success in war, politics, writing, problems in love, forgery, shipwreck, loss, earthquake 22° Scorpio 04 Unfortunate Saturn/ Mars http://www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html

Notes. A pale yellow star situated on the neck of the Serpent. From Unk al Hayyah, the Neck of the Snake. Sometimes called Cor Serpentis, the Serpent's Heart (a snake's heart is located in its neck). [Robson*, p.213.]

Influences: According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Saturn and Mars; to Simmonite, of Saturn and Venus; to Pearce, of Saturn, Venus and Mars; and, to Alvidas, of Mars and Saturn in opposition to Venus. It gives immorality, accidents, violence and danger of poison. [Robson*, p.213.]

In the Neck of the Serpent (Serpens), Unukalhai shows its properties as a Martian force combined with Saturn and is often really dangerous and destructive. There will be chronic diseases, which are not easily detected, these will result in a weakened state of health and operations will be necessary. There will be accidents. This is especially true with Uranus or with Neptune. The conjunction of the latter with Unuk will make the native prone to infectious diseases and also to poisoning. If with the MC and in conjunction also with 'malefics' it is damaging to the social position, often there will be many difficulties in the professional life. [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth Ebertin, 1928, p.67, under the name Unuk.]

The neck, rather than the head, is where a snake has its brain, its seat of knowledge. So this star is all about that knowledge that the good doctor has won from his labors, that knowledge of where we came from, what we are, where we are going, what holds us back, what to do about healing it. (he is referring to this star's position in the constellations Serpens and Ophiuchus, which are related to medicine and healing). This Saturn-Mars star does in some measure merit the black reputation it has gained from the debasers of astrology, for those who will abuse and, mis-use, the gifts available here, are as deserving of being struck off the register as any corrupt doctor. But those who will give service, in healing or teaching of what they receive, have only good fortune where Unukalhai shines on them. [The Living Stars, Dr. Eric Morse, p.156.] http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Unukalhai.html

The way I see it, if I follow the path of the healer, I will be fortunate in love.
I am already trained in massage therapy through a 720 hour course. I am already seeing a shamanic healer for healing work on me. I feel that there are issues that I need to resolve before I start my career in the healing arts. Venus is my 2nd house ruler,and so it involves my security. Venus is also my 9th house ruler. I have started going to an interfaith unity church. I feel that have a firm spiritual foundation in my life will help me on the healing path. I wouldn't mind volunteering at the church when it comes to the healing arts.

my future spouse might be in the healing arts herself. She and I could even be partners in a healing arts practice. That's what I actually want any way.

posted March 04, 2009 08:09 AM         

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo