posted January 10, 2012 04:47 PM            

My progressed Venus is in 17 degrees (same degree as my venus and mars) Pisces!

posted January 10, 2012 05:33 PM            

paula cole, yeah that's fitting.
i would've said portishead more so though.
bon jovi....really?!?

posted January 11, 2012 02:02 PM            

Venus in Sag--spot, on. The whole thing about a complete spiritual and emotional connection/relationship, going places we've never been in the relationship (literally and metaphorically) does a great job in expressing some of the depth and idealisim of my Venus in Sag. It really resonated with me. Especially the part about honesty. I like to be transparent when I care at this level. It actually scares people, because I'll try to be very available, present and open. Someone once asked me if I was 'real.' Lol!

posted January 12, 2012 01:53 AM            

i have venus in scorpio i thought a lot of it was pretty spot on

"They also won't put up with betrayal. An eye for an eye...is another of the myths associated with the sign - vengeance. The truth is they won't attack unless they've been attacked themselves. " - !!

posted January 15, 2012 11:25 AM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
that's awesome fire wire! i have a sag venus as well, anaretic (so an extreme version apparently, heh, and the sabian symbol is 'a pope blesses the faithful'). to me sag is all about the higher minded jupiterian aspirations and with venus there, love is a blessed thing indeed. all i ever feel when i'm in love is the urge to carry us both out of mundane concerns and see/feel the extraordinary power of love in/from the universe. it seems people are equally compelled by this strange concept of love i hold as they are confused, sometimes intimidated or weirded out, heh. but i love this placement! it's funny how many people think sag venus is a player, unfaithful, etc when i think it is quite the opposite. although our enthusiasm (when not understood), which helps us shake off our hearts with the same level of resiliency and enthusiasm, can make us come off insincere or something i guess. but i love powerfully and deeply and am very loyal.

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Agreed! The thing about people being compelled, confused, intimidated or just plain weirded out rings true for me. Lol

posted January 15, 2012 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
Agreed! The thing about people being compelled, confused, intimidated or just plain weirded out rings true for me. Lol

I am definitely completely willing and able to go as deep as it goes with the understanding that growth, evolution and possibly transformation are there. And if and when it is time for things to move on, I realize how important the growth it is to enthusiastically, aggressively and wholeheartedly in the direction of growth. That doesn't mean it is 'easy' for me, per se, but it definitely means I won't let it stop or hold me back too long!

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yeah, that sag resiliency is pretty remarkable isn't it? i think it's cuz we are always 'seeking' the growth, the lessons, so in effect we are 'rewarded' by the discovering OF them which naturally creates resiliency? here's a question though; do you find a lot of your exes still pine over you because they miss that enthusiastic outlook or 'style' of love? i kind of border on sappy when in a relationship cuz of my 4th house moon and my sag stellium becomes a cancer stellium in draconic, and mixed with sag's idealism i really give relationships MY ALL. but unfortunately most of my life i went for deeply wounded people who often did not treat me well. well somehow it seems my kind of love always effected them very deeply and yeah, when i'm over someone, i'm over them (after MUCH effort to work things out even if i should have walked away much earlier), and so it seems to go that the majority of my exes throughout my life held this flame for me but i don't really think it was *me* they miss/want so much as the perception of love i had and brought to the relationship! does that make any sense!?? and yeah, same people that initially resisted it or found it intimidating or mistook it, or whatever. enthusiasm can so easily come across as obsessive neediness (which i know i have to some degree at times, but not as often as is thought!) and then they see me pick myself and walk away quite easily (after doing my very best to make things work) and they want me back, they 'get' it for a while. in fact that is how i end up staying in these relationships i probably should not be in (well, everything happens for a reason but you know what i mean!) so long, cuz this pattern repeats till exhausted, usually. heh

but yeah it seems no one realy 'gets' my style of love completely till i am totally over them, which is just weird.

just wanted to pick your brain! don't know any other sag venii. hey aren't you also an aqua stellium like me?

posted January 15, 2012 03:20 PM            

so i guess when that is ones VENUS sign it is a wee confusing for people cuz it does still carry some of that scorp flavour the but emotional intensity has transformed to enthusiasm, the fear/desire to merge that scorpio has that keeps them so withheld and secretive has transformed into blunt honesty and lighthearted goofiness, etc. but still this urge to TAKE your lover higher/deeper/whatever, ya know?

posted January 16, 2012 01:23 AM            

Celine Dion (nice nice!)
Jesse McCartney (eh...yuck)
Barbra Streisand (alright)
Diana Ross (eh)
Alice Cooper (cool cool!)
Kelly Clarkson (I use to like her a lot now I'm just like eh)
Kurt Cobain (NOW THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!)
Marilyn Manson (I saw him live!)
Justin Bieber (eww)

Alice Cooper-Poison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww&ob=av2e

posted January 16, 2012 01:48 AM            

yeah, but i meant LOOOOOOVE in general, not just romantically. but, like, how exactly would that express in aqua on the ascendant? just a big ol' fashion love of humanity?

posted January 16, 2012 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:

just wanted to pick your brain!

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Lol, thought I'd just copy that one line from this great post!!!

I can tell I’d get along with you’d great, we’d probably be really good friends, I'm sure.

To answer your question--yes. I do find that people come back or 'pine' over what was. And it makes me pretty sad, because they don't value you or the relationship while in the present moment. Once I have moved on from something officially and consider it to be a 'life lesson'--I move on, completely and integrate the learning into my life and future. It is important that I grow that way. Oftentimes, people have tried to do things to make me ‘stay’ (which works most of the time) or hurt me in ways to make my recovery stunted once I leave, but it doesn’t last for long. I can be extremely emotional about it, and feel the need to fully experience the depth of the emotion, the loss...etc, but I also feel the need to do it independently and make progress—without the individual.

I too have the thing with "deeply wounded" people, but I don’t blame them. I am very nurturing, which is possibly related to the whole Chiron/Centaur healer paradigm. I mean, we are all wounded in someway, right? But, I mean people I really try to stick by even when things are God awful. I try to be very idealistic, unfortunately in a very neptunian way sometimes. But once the rose colored lenses are out, they are out! I think you are on to something, about the not wanting you as much as the perception of love and the energy you brought to the relationship. That sounds very accurate.

You sound exactly like me, down to the last detail. I stay, and stay, and stay. The "I love you and all your flaws" type full of enthusiasm and consistency—always. But once I get to that place of no return, I split and shut my energy off from the person--and they can even tell the difference. I won’t look down on the person or the relationship, but it does become like…an artifact, or maybe an antique. It is still valuable, and I treasure it but just…not necessarily functional (may or may not be, depends). I don’t find it important to revisit and pine over it once it gets to that point because I pour so much of myself throughout. Just like you it takes SO MUCH to take me there. I mean…I have to go through a lot.

So I do think the Venus in Sag is a little confusing, and maybe intimidating or such…idk, a little tough to figure out. I have a couple of close Scorpios in my life and the ones that are still here, they are great. I care about them a lot, and they know, because I often times know what they are going through before they have to say anything. And I do find that many of us, have similarities. And, even they say I am pretty intense and intimidating…even to them. This is after they’ve felt comfortable enough to tell me such things, of course, lol.

Amazing how we think exactly the same way. I don’t have an aqua stellium though, I have like a 4 or 5 planet Sag. stellium (was almost 5 or 6 planets, lol). But basically we have the same brain...or the same heart...lol, or both.