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belgz
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posted March 18, 2009 09:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok i believe it shows 100 percent in the solar return chart of the time period the birth falls into. example your birthday is in october 2008 and you give birth in september 2009 you would check this theory by looking at your 2008 solar return chart.

MOON IN THE FIRST HOUSE or 5th house almost always shows up in the year a mother gives birth. More likely to show with first child or another child if a significant amount of time has passed.

Rarely sun can show up conjunct the ascendant showing the birth of a boy (80 percent)

SR chart ascendant on the 1st or 5th house of natal with planets in the SR 5th house.

And last but not least.. an aspect in the SR between venus and moon, whether it be sextile, trine or a conjunction...

TEST IT OUT


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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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writesomething
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posted March 18, 2009 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think moon in the 5th is the strongest indication in a SR.

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lechien
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posted March 18, 2009 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi belgz, i'm a bit confused. ok so, for example, my birthday is December. and if i got pregnant, for example, now, that means that i will give birth some time around my own birthday of this year (2009) i guess? or even after (early 2010). do i still look at the 2008 Solar return then? or 2009?

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posted March 18, 2009 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone posted findings by another someone (lol vague) that said that if the Vertex and Pluto were in the SR 5th house that year, they would either meet someone significant or have a child.

When my mother gave birth to me, she had her Vertex and Pluto in the 5th. My friend is having a child in April and he has vertex and Pluto in the 5th.

Spooky.

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lechien
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posted March 18, 2009 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh ok, i think i got what you mean, forget my previous question pleez.

yea i read that too amouls, who posted that?

i've had several times in the last 10 years where i had just Vertex in my 5th. not Pluto though. I have Vertex again for the 6th time in the last 10 years, in this year's Solar Return. my Pluto is always either in the 4th or the 6th. hm.

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posted March 18, 2009 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my mom's solar return chart for the year when she gave birth to me:

solar ASC, Ceres, Pluto conj my name asteroid (in her natal chart)

solar Moon in the solar 2nd (natal Moon in the 2nd too)

solar IC conjunct natal Moon conj Chiron

solar Child conj POF (in the 4th) conj natal NN conj Pholus (in the 2nd)

solar Vertex conj Chiron fall on the natal 5th cusp

solar Venus conj natal Venus conj Child

Venus 5 HR in the natal chart

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok let me check it out:

1st son - moon conj AC square venus
2nd son - moon in 4th sextle venus
3rd son - moon in 11th no aspect to venus but moon trine AC ruler

MY SR chart that starts in a month has moon in 5th, 5th ruller venus and AC ruler trine moon lol

OMG, the date/year met the man l can't get over he had moon conjunct vertex (1) in 5th and so did i (not conjunct though) in PROGRESSED charts.

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posted March 18, 2009 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked back at years I had gotten Pregnant ( I have had multiple miscarriages) I saw all of those on the list through the SR's over the last 7yrs. My 2009 SR has moon in the 1st house. I am not trying to concieve, but I did think it was very interesting.

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posted March 18, 2009 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nope, those don't work. I checked 5 examples.

1 had Moon in the 5th - but in the year she conceived, not in the year she gave birth. big difference.

the Moon - 2 of them had it in the 4th;
hs 5 - one had Mercury in the 5th, the other had Jupiter in the 5th.
all sorts of aspects or no aspect Moon-Venus.

one observation: 80% is an 'often' not a 'rarely'. 80% is a lot. most astrological studies I found usualy find 30-40% consistencies. so, trust me - 80% is huge; but it's not true. 4 of my cases had boys - no Sun conj Asc.

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belgz
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posted March 18, 2009 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The solar return needs to be the year of the birth.

So in july this year 2009 my solar return has moon conjunct ascendant..

from july this year till next year it shows i may bring a baby into the world.

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Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

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Quinnie
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posted March 18, 2009 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The year I had my first son
SR chart showed Moon conjunct Pluto in the 4th house squared Venus in the 1st.

For my second son
Sr chart shows Moon conjunct my natal Venus
and Sr Venus conjnuct natal Pluto.

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belgz
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posted March 21, 2009 07:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And i dont use equal house either

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

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posted March 21, 2009 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belgz when are you due?
Have you tried predicting your baby's birthday?

My son's were easy enough to guess as on my side...all 3 sisters were cardinal suns
on their dad's side all the brothers were mutable signs

So the sun and Moon had to fit this scheme for my boys since... And it did

Cardinal Moon's (cardinal mum)
mutable Sun's (mutable dad)

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belgz
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posted March 21, 2009 08:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im not pregnant but my solar return chart does show it for july 2009. so i think anyway lol

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

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posted March 21, 2009 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahhh lol
hmmm .....

Hope it works out for you. Don't rush it though, kids are hard work!

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belgz
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posted March 24, 2009 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are solar return charts of my friends who are female when they had babies.. The only male i have is the first chart which is my uncles he will have a baby this year and natally saturn is the 5th house ruler..

He is a virgo rising...

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belgz
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posted March 24, 2009 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The rest are girls


Amanda who is pisces rising had a libra baby with aqua moon. Her natal 5th hosue ruler is moon. She has mercury sun and moon in 5th

Aries rising has saturn in 5th house with NN natally had a baby with capricorn moon and vrgo sun and it was a boy.

Has o deg taurus rising natally and had a pisces girl with pisces sun in 1st and pisces rising. Her 5th house ruler is mercury and it is conjunct mars


She has virgo rising natally and saturn is the 5th house ruler she hasnt had her baby yet..


When my mum had me she also had moon in 1st. My dad had sun in 1st.. My dad has moon in his 5th house in his natal chart in pisces.

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Diandra23
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posted March 25, 2009 10:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i guess i have a chance between 2012 and 2013 look

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posted March 25, 2009 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sevannah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stumbled upon this tonight and thought I'd share. It's more geared towards getting pregnant, but I thought it was interesting as well
http://www.starpearls.com/timing060104.html

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It's just another day in the life of Aquarius.

Sun: Aquarius
Moon: Aquarius
Venus: Aquarius
Mercury: Aquarius
Mars: Taurus
Rising: Cancer

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belgz
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posted March 26, 2009 06:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra your chart doesnt show a baby it shows more of a marriage. Libra rising with 7th ruler in 5th

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

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Diandra23
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posted March 26, 2009 10:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not a baby? i thought moon in 5H was the strong one indication...

marriage?How did you saw that please?Cause my bf will have in the same time,similar placements with me (Neptune cj Valentine and kiron and moon in his 5H!all Pisces).

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belgz
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posted March 26, 2009 11:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well the moon is still in 4th and ur 5th house ruler is conjunct the DC in the seventh house sextile the moon. pluto conjunct ur IC might show some big changes expecially when its trine ur sun.

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Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

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posted March 26, 2009 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmmmmmmm

It works with my mom in regards to my older halfbrother


June 12, 1969 Solar Return
halfbrother born December 1969

Moon in 2'23 Gemini conjunct Mercury in 3'39 Gemini in 5th, and the conjunction oppose retrograde Mars in 5'50 Sagittarius in 11th.
Moon and Mercury semisquare kuiper belt Orcus with 31 and 24 minutes of arc respectively. Moon conjunct kuiper belt Varuna with 2'43 orb. Moon quincunx retrograde kuiper belt Ixion in 2'12 Scorpio with 11 minutes of arc and semisextile kuiper belt Sedna in 1'32 Taurus with 51 minutes of arc.


Retrograde Ixion in 2'12 Scorpio conjunct/oppose Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 0'29 Scorpio/Taurus
Sedna in 1'32 Taurus oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli.
Retrograde kuiper belt Quaoar in 28'23 Libra conjunct/oppose Midheaven/Imum Coeli.

Moon contraparallel Ceres - '13


Grand Trine of Kuiper Belt Dwarf Planet Haumea in 7'02 Virgo in 8th,the conjunction of Venus in 6'20 Taurus and Saturn in 6'20 Taurus in 4th,Ascendant in 7'40 Capricorn.

Haumea square Mars in 11th.

Sun in 21'59 Gemini in 6th square the opposition of Jupiter in 26'44 Virgo,Pluto in 22'26 Virgo in 8th and Uranus in 29'53 Virgo in 9th and North Lunar Node in Pisces in 2nd. Retrograde Neptune in 26'40 Virgo sextile Jupiter-Uranus-Pluto.

My mother had my half brother when she was 15 years old. The father of my half brother was her stepmother's nephew,Tommy. My grandfather was very angry to find out his firstborn child was pregnant that he even put a gun to Tommy's head. They were forced to be separated,and they didn't reunite until 1993 which was when my mom told me the truth about their past relationship and the son that came from it. My mother was sent away and had my half brother,and he was given up for adoption. Tommy was pushed into joining the Marines and went/fought in Vietnam. She gave birth to my half brother in December 1969. She ran away to San Francisco shortly after that. She met my father in February 1970. He was living in the same apartment building as her friend that she was staying with. They weren't in a relationship until 1970. He was black,and my mom is white. Therefore, an interracial friendship that later turn into a relationship. My father was also 13 years older than my mother,and so there was a significant age difference.


It doesn't work for my mother and me, but there are planets in 5th house.


In June 13 1971 Solar Return
I was born October 29, 1971:


The conjunction of Sun in 21'59 Gemini and Ceres in 20'14 Gemini in 11th trine the conjunction of Moon in 20'39 Aquarius,Mars in 17'29 Aquarius,North Lunar Node in 17'17 Aquarius in 7th. That trine sextile the Midheaven in 20'28 Aries.

Sedna in 2'24 Taurus in 10th square Ascendant in 3'01 Leo.

Retrograde Ixion in 4'08 Scorpio square Ascendant in 3'01 Leo

Retrograde Quaoar in 0'50 Scorpio square Ascendant,quincunx Venus in 1'40 Gemini,and contrparallel Midheaven with 44 minutes of arc

Varuna in 2'20 Gemini conjunct 1'40 Gemini and Saturn in 29'23 Taurus,oppose retrograde Neptune in 1'08 Sagittarius in 5th,sextile Ascendant in 3'01 Leo

Moon parallel Eris with 14 minutes of arc

Orcus in 20'07 Cancer in 12th square Midheaven in 20'28 Aries and quincunx Moon in 20'39 Aquarius

a conjunction Retrograde Jupiter in 29'23 Taurus and 1'08 Sagittarius in 5th oppose the conjunction of Venus in 1'40 Gemini and Saturn in 29'03 Taurus in 11th. That opposition sextile/trine Ascendant in 3'01 Leo.

She had me around 1 month early than my due date after 23 hour labor. I was induced or it would have been a longer. I was taken home on Halloween.
She had relationship problems with my father. She never heard from him again by the time I was 1 1/2 years old. They were never married,and so I was born illegitimate. I was born to neurodivergent parents,and my father was the more neurodivergent with his speech problems(cluttering,stuttering) including more severe coordination,auditory processing problems than my mother's who were mild. Both of them ultrasensitive,highly emotional. My father was a very insecure man which I feel was connected to being a black neurodivergent man born and raised in the South. He had paranoia,jealousy that affected the relationship and led to violence. My mother left him and moved to Sacramento when I was 8 months old,and he started using drugs again after years of drug recovery. This was around the start of her June 1972 Solar Return.


My mother was pregnant with me when she was approached by Jim Jones followers to join their cult, but she refused because she thought they were nuts and she's Roman Catholic. My father refused because he was so much into his Christian Baptist pastor Bob. Thank God my parents didn't join that cult or all 3 of us would be dead!

Sedna aspecting angles in both Solar Returns of having my halfbrother and me is very interesting too! Moon-Ceres aspect in both Solar Returns. Strong kuiper belt activity in both Solar Returns.


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Orange
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posted October 23, 2013 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool info

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posted October 23, 2013 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So i'll probably be a mum until 2019.Amazing.

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