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venusdeindia
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posted March 21, 2009 03:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Disclaimer :The below is severely mind blowing information regressed by a contact and most of the past such facts given by her have been corroborated. The nature of the information is absolu - fin - lutely nutsie-daisy ,but it would be implied that those who have participated in the past alien thread by Redstar and Iqhunk and me are the ones who are the target audience. If you think this is another adddition to the Alien nuts threads and insanity please keep the thread civil.

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So all the below data and facts come from a contact of mine and Iqhunk .

A lot of past life regressions and astrological correspondes as well as factual had this story clear.

She was an Archangel Ari who gave into Physical temptations and became a sirian Lion winged Being. The lion beings created the Sirian Race.

Being of such high stature further splits in the frequency continued and she became a sirian being on decisions by the council that governs our galaxy and the races in it.Their plans for interstellar politics involved further development of all races reptiles,lyrean etc thru advanced technology , weapons and the like.She ( actually not a " she " as a sirian ) was the chief who was responsible for warfare technology that she designed and gave to all races.She like other sirians were subjugates working at the orders of the council until she let some of her colleagues bribe her into covert dealings for the reptilies that made them more powerful and upset the council's plans.

Her payback for this - a need to exist in a 3 - D body and experience human life that was the latest trend and develoment.All of this is around the third and last cycle of Atlantis.

There were 3 cycles of Atlantis - the Atlanteans were Lyreans with Sirian genetics , who initially were 4 D and could alternate between the physical and non - physical levels as such.

It was a time of genetic manipulations and mostly genetic experiments by sirians who created not only Physical lyreans but also offered them a Bonus Package - another being that would exist in the Astral plane made from a part of their dna

These beings were created from the original energy of the Lyraens and the energy of the beings that are the epitome of the Luciferian consciousness.The Sirians helped create them,but it was the idea of these beings originally,to create them.

Here is where the first Lyreans who were physical as well as non = physical messed up big time and got stuck in their physical consciousness - During the third Atlantean cycle,they discovered that they existed in the astral realms in the form of these various beings.And they fell in love with that discovery.With what they could do,their mind pattern changed.They fell under the influence.And that's what destroyed them.A part of our energy can be divided into many places.All of our Soul frequency cannot exist in physical reality,because it would be too powerful for physical reality.

These beings became the gods and goddesses of yore only in reality they were astral spirits that the Lyreans used their Mind to do their bidding.That involved demonisation of the human involved.


How does that work ?


Through the solar plexus,through your mind pattern.Those who have more reptilian genetics and are demonized can communicate with them more easily and know how to make them do their bidding,without any ritual involved.They know how to use them as an extension of themself.

Demonization is the energetic attachment of this type of being at birth,and even before birth.They join you,through the chakra system.A ritual is performed.You can exist on different planes.In the angelic,in the physical in the demonic.Hyperspace,astral,physical reality.

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venusdeindia
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posted March 21, 2009 03:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUT - this only applies to very old souls who have existed as the early partly - physical Lyreans.

Ever seen the movie The Golden compass

Talk about demons connected to you

So this contact in question is a goddess like the woman mentioned in this thread
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000907.html

Like this woman mentioned in that thread as Moonchild is an emanation of goddess Hekate and Kaali on the Astral ,the contact in question is a goddess who was worshipped as a living high preistess in Atlantis - after the atlantic cataclysm the atlanteans who survived went to egypt and resumed their cultural practices - only from hereon this " Goddess " who predates written records became the goddess Bast - and not surprisingly is pictured as half - human and half -lioness

She was in fact the first and the primordial goddess that all cultures talk about - she was also Eve !!!

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posted March 21, 2009 03:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Until the 3 rd Atlantean cycle most physical Atlanteans were Androgyneous - but after she as the First Prototype was created as a Blonde Woman and subsequently attained the status equal to that of the ruler of Atlantean culture - further genetic experiments led to several beings being thus fashioned as woman - only they did not have sexual organs or reproductive organs.These women were sexless in essence.

Then it was that the Angel who had given up unity with god to experience separation wanted to have her cake and eat it as well.Half of her origianl frequency was with the sirians who split it so she could live in a physical body.she asked that the other half be made in her likeness BUT as the opposite -viola

Original sin

Being the " Other Half " - the first ever in this Galaxy she wanted the compliment of her soul in physical form - she had the Masculine of her soul in her core and the core of her feminine was " Above"

So the high bosses - the sirians and the Atlantean ruling elite gave into this demand and in return for contunued service from her - as a goddess she not only designed and created weapons she was given the Crystal skull to work on.

and so her man arrived in a pink package -

As Linda said in gooberz

" Eyes into eyes burning like embers "

To look into the eyes of yout Other half - who has with him the core of ur feminine - is to see urself as god sees you - it also leads to a kundalinic flow into the pineal at every eye contact with him/her.

And so it was that the first man was created - FROM HER.

Until recently she felt conflicted about this role reversal that deviates from cultural norm - that she was made from him.

There were no available myths or strories in any culture to backup this extraordinaryily important fact that emerged from her past - life regressions - which made her think it was a false memory until...


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The original Eve had no spouse except the serpent, a living phallus she created for her own sexual pleasure. Some ancient people regarded the Goddess and her serpent as their first parents. Sacred icons showed the Goddess giving life to a man, while her serpent coiled around the apple tree behind her. Deliberate misinterpretation of such icons produced ideas for revised creation myths like the one in Genesis. Some Jewish traditions of the first century B.C., however, identified Jehovah with the serpent deity who accompanied the Mother in her garden. Sometimes she was Eve, sometimes her name was given as Nahemah, Naama, or Namrael, who gave birth to Adam without the help of any male, even the serpent.

Because Jehovah arrogantly pretended to be the sole Creator, Eve was obliged to punish him according to Gnostic scriptures, (although it does not say how). Though the Mother of All Living existed before everything, the God forgot she had made him and had given him some of her creative power. "He was even ignorant of his own Mother . . . It was because he was foolish and ignorant of his Mother that he said, "I am God, there is none beside me." Gnostic texts often show the creator reprimanded and punished for his arrogance by a feminine power greater and older than himself.

{{ Keeping in mind the " God " in he Bible who say " Let us make man in our image - are Sirians }}

The secret of God's "Name of power," the Tetragrammaton, was that three-quarters of it invoked not God - but Eve. YHWH, yod-he-vau-he, came from the Hebrew root HWH, meaning both "life" and "woman" - in Latin letters, E-V-E. With the addition of an "I" (yod), it amounted to the Goddess's invocation of her name as the Word of creation, a common idea in Egypt and other ancient lands.

Gnostic scriptures said Adam was created by the power of Eve's word, not God's. Adam's name meant he was formed of clay moistened with blood, the female magic of adamah or "bloody clay." He didn't produce the Mother of All Living from his rib; in earlier Mesopotamian stories, he was produced by hers. The biblical idea was a reversal of older myths in which the Goddess brought forth a primal male ancestor, then made him her mate - the ubiquitous, archetypal divine-incest relationship traceable in every mythology. Furthermore, Gnostic scriptures said Eve not only created Adam and obtained his admission to heaven; she was the very soul within him, as Shakti was the soul of every Hindu god and yogi. Adam could not live without "power from the Mother," so she descended to earth as "the Good Spirit, the Thought of Light called by him "Life" (Hawwa)." She entered into Adam as his guiding spirit of conscience. "It is she who works at the creature, exerts herself on him, sets him in his own perfect temple, enlightens him on the origin of his deficiency, and shows him his (way of) ascent." Through her, Adam was able to rise above the ignorance imposed on him by the male God.

By this Gnostic route came the Midrashic assertion that Adam and Eve were originally androgynous, like Shiva and his Shakti. She dwelt in him, and he in her; they were two souls united in one body, which God later tore apart, depriving them of their bliss of union. Cabalists took up the idea and said the paradise of Eden can be regained only when the two sexes are once more united; even God must be united with his female counterpart, the heavenly Eve called Shekina.




http://www.astradome.com/adam&eve_myth.htm

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venusdeindia
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posted March 21, 2009 03:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUT - when this man was given to this First , primordial Feminine -they were both inreality and in the absence of sex and reproductive organs androgynous - and herein began the downfall of atlantis -and ours as a human race.

In the mass of androgynous beings here was one couple , with the core of each others yin and yang withing the other - who had unbelievable sexual chemistry but...this was what led the Atlanteans to such a compromise - their non - physical chemistry became the fuel for the sexual rituals that became a part of occult traditions spanning thousands of years and across cultures. Together , without physical sex they became a channel for genetic experiments that created various beings out of nowhere.

Until eventually the Original sin found its way into her.

She could feel his spirit within her everytime she looked into his eyes - now she wanted him inside her .She was given the idea by reptiles who was in contact with having worked with her and the sirians who were coverlt helping them.She acted on it and the next pahse of genetic manipulation gave her and her man sex organs - but not reproductive organs.

The leaders at the helm of Atlantis and their non - earth allies were transfixed by this , Sex . And so it was that at her helm a mass of females were created

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when the sons of God looked upon the daughters off men and saw them as being fair.

And it came to pass, /When the Earthlings began to increase/in number upon the face of the Earth,/and daughters were born unto them, and the sons of the Elohim/saw the daughters of the Earthlings,/that they were compatible./ And they took unto themselves/ wives of whichever they chose.


The Nefilim were upon the Earth/in those days,/and thereafter too,/when the sons of the Elohim/cohabited with the daughters of the Adam/and they bore children to them.


Only the Giants a.k.a. Alien elite ended up allowing sex organs being planted on themselves and thus began the downward spiralling of Atlantis - the result of sexual promiscuity and hysteria that led to the leaders and the elite ( the ones with such organs ) to ignore the growing reptilain powers in Lemuria.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/the_experiment/experiment12.htm

Meanwhile Eve was now progressing to a new stage - she now wanted babies - she wanted to create a being not with her Mind and spiritual powers but with her body .she had created so many from her non - physical powers . So now it was time for her body.

Only this time she was refused - why she does not recollect. but her maternal urges and relisation of her slavery at the higher powers drove her to her biggest Sin of all.

A Reptilian contact convinced her to tamper with the Crystal that would cause geological problems. not only would it cool the Atlantean attacks on Reptilian settlements being a diversion in itself. she could flee with her Twin and the reptiles would give her a womb and freedom.

But the reptiles and she herself miscalculated the damage of the Crystal - and Atlantis sank. She and her Love with it.

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venusdeindia
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posted March 21, 2009 04:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now let us look at the astrology of this contact to see if all this is false memory or a hallucination

The names of Eve are Eva, Eve, Evelyn,Sekina,Innanen ( sumerian mythic figure with same correspondences )


Her Asteroid Evelyn ( a name for eve ) conjunct her Twin Half's Valentine at 1 Aries opposed to his ???


Lucifer

Fall from heaven

The sabian for which is

"A Woman Just Risen From The Sea; A Seal Is Embracing Her"

Her sun and Kaali conjunct Cancer - the final fall of Atlantis.

His Eva conjunct her True node conjunct Sirius !!!!


Her Sekina conjunct her Moon and opposed his sun

BUT freakiest of all

Her Innanen conjunct her Pholus at 13.1 Aries

Sabian for which is

"A Serpent Coiling Near A Man And A Woman
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Her Eva conjunct both their natal Lucifers.

In their composite asteroid Sekina conjunct composite asecendent

The composite Atlantis and Sekina and Eva and Karma and Valentine conjunct her natal Ascendent and lie in the composite 12 house !!!!

Composite Lucifer squares both their natal suns .

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aqua/scorp
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posted March 21, 2009 04:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow!! i have to finish reading this when i get back home. This alot to digest.

EDIT:VDI question do you think these asteroids could also be used to distinguish twin souls??

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darkdreamer
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posted March 21, 2009 06:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting read.

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venusdeindia
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EDIT:VDI question do you think these asteroids could also be used to distinguish twin souls??

theoretically , it should. i need more time to think about it,but i will be back with my insights

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venusdeindia
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posted March 21, 2009 08:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twin souls are the same souls not complementary - they dont have the polarity of another soul within them, so i dont think so.

but yes, in case of an other half - where the core of one soul's masculinity is in the other soul and viceversa i am SURE Eve and Adam asteroids should be looked at.


Or apart from that i think aspects to a man's Eve/Eva/Evelyn etc and viceversa should be looked at.

Can any of you guys check ur synastries where the mascuine - feminine vibe was strong - dont confuse sexual tension of a relationship's initial stages with it though..thats just hormones

Discount if u have sun/venus/Moon aspect mars/pluto in that relationship...

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posted March 21, 2009 09:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The discounting of these classical aspects is because you want to be sure that the other-half-resonance is created through the mentioned asteroids?

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posted March 21, 2009 09:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The discounting of these classical aspects is because you want to be sure that the other-half-resonance is created through the mentioned asteroids?

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venusdeindia
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posted March 21, 2009 10:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes... though if you have the birth data , can you look at synastries of Melanie - Antonio and Cash - Carter

Also , i no longer consider Venus - Pluto a marker for twin souls or other halves.

Scratch that off for good.

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posted March 21, 2009 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, we have now moved onto peresphone/prosperina in aspect to pluto for soul mate haven't we?

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darkdreamer
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posted March 21, 2009 10:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, I do not buy that Venus-Pluto-stuff either. I still think it`s an intense aspect, but not Other-halves-worthy.

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"Twin souls are the same souls not complementary - they dont have the polarity of another soul within them, so i dont think so.

but yes, in case of an other half - where the core of one soul's masculinity is in the other soul and viceversa i am SURE Eve and Adam asteroids should be looked at.


Or apart from that i think aspects to a man's Eve/Eva/Evelyn etc and viceversa should be looked at.

Can any of you guys check ur synastries where the mascuine - feminine vibe was strong - dont confuse sexual tension of a relationship's initial stages with it though..thats just hormones

Discount if u have sun/venus/Moon aspect mars/pluto in that relationship..."

right! This synastry the masuline/feminine vibe you speak of is very much there. Mostly his feminine asteroids aspect my masculine ones. For example we have his Isis conj. my S.N, my Osiris conj. his N.N. Hope im on the right track here in what you're asking us to look for in our synastries.

I was never to keen on the Venus-Pluto idea myself tbh..even though i am a fan of Pluto.. it just never seemed to hit me the way its described(Venus-Pluto) even tho i have this aspect in my synastry with someone whom i have very strong Kundalini Asteroid connections with and Persephone/Prosperina/Pluto aspects with.

Well surprise, surprise! (with the same person) My asteroid ADAMS conjunct his EVA by 1 degree orb and trine his EVELYN at 0 degree orb.

His ADAMS conjunct my Venus/Saturn (0)
My Evelyn conj. his N.N(1)
EDIT: His Evelyn conj my DC (1), Valentine conj. my Eva (2)

Very interesting thread.

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posted March 21, 2009 04:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH MY GAWD!

I just saw that Jude Law`s Adams is closely conjunct my Eva on 1 and 2 degree Capricorn.
And this conjunction also falls on my Knight-Sinbad-Stonehenge-Vesta-Chaldaea conjunction. IQ, if youre reading this, you remember that conjunction, don`t you?

Does that synastry have to contain EVERYTHING?

No I do not think this means anything, just made me smile a bit.


BTW what happened to Lilith, Adam`s first wife? How does she fit into all of this?

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posted March 21, 2009 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok it's official. I'm confused girls

Am l only looking at EVA, EVELYN and ADAMS now?
So no peres or prosp or anything else?

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posted March 21, 2009 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do these count:

guy 1 (MD) his eva trine my adams (0)
guy 2 (KM) his adams trine my eva (1)
guy 3 (AW) his adams conjunct my eva (4)

Other couples:
Demi moor/Ashton Kutcher his adams trine her eva (2)
Paul/Linda no aspect
Paul Newman/Joanne no aspect

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posted March 21, 2009 04:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Antonio Banderas - Melanie Griffith:

Antonio has Adams conjunct Karma (in Scorpio) - this Adams / Karma opposes Mel`s Juno exactly

His Evelyn trines her Evelyn.

His Eva on 23-24 Virgo exactly conjuncts her Evelyn and trines her Juno.


Mel`s Adams conjuncts her ASC and widely opposes her Eva (4).
So her Adams trines his NN and Saturn


Johnny Cash - June Carter

His Eva opposes her Pluto
His Eva conjunct her Destinn (and Moon maybe)

His Evelyn conjuncts her Valentine.


Her Eva trines his ASC
Her Eva conjuncts his Pluto exactly

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i have to read that Story once more time to digest everyting...still i think it has a meaning.

While i was very young and started reading for example AvALons of zimmer bradley,i naturally acepted that the divine feminine energy is the Mother of ALL.

DD
I had no doubt you had to have sth like that with Jude...i hope that you find a way to see him face to face!!

Strange...look at these:

Js MIDAS cj my ASC 0
As SEKINA/ASC cj Js SUN(MIDAS 0
AS ADAMS cj JS DSC 0
Js SEKINA cj AS Karma/VAlentine/Mars
JS EVA opose my JUNO 1 and my POM 3
js SEKINE cj my VE/MAR MID 1 and opose my LILITH 0

JS ADAMS cj my DRACO ASC 1
js ADA opose my D. VENUS 1

MY MIDAS cj his D.SUN
My ADA CJ his D.KARMA 2!
My ADAMS opose his ANNA 0 and his D.VALENTINE 1

my EVA cj his SPIRIT 1
my EVA cj his NEPTUNE 1

I FORGOT EVELYN: look...

my EVELYN cj his ADAMS !!
mY evelyn (cj my sun/moon mid and D.ASC) opose his D.PLUTO

mY EVELYN solstc.cj.his VALENTINE 1!!
HIS EVELYN solstic cj my ASC 3

apart of out other feminine-masculine conections in other asteroids theme...

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posted March 21, 2009 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok that makes more sense DD

guy 1 (MD) his eva trine my adams. his evelyn trine my chiron/eva.
guy 2 (KM) his adams trine my chiron/eva. his eva opp my chiron, conjunct my eros. his evelyn conjunct my chiron, trine my valentine
guy 3 (AW) his adams conjunct my eva, sq my sun/juno/karma. his eva trine my juno/karma. his evelyn sq my eva.
guy 4 (AD) his adams trine my sun. His Eva trine my AC. His Evelyn opp my amor

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posted March 22, 2009 02:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wow DD, great aspects, so do you other guys.

Also if possible check synastry between long term traditional marriages in family , Yin - yaang type okay, not where the wife is bossy and the man sucks up to her

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Well, I would also exclude those, where the man is a despot and the wife fears him. Doesn`t sound very healthy to me either.


I am using my parents as example, as they have been married for 35 years.

His Adams trines her Eva
His Eva / NN conjuncts her Jupiter and opposes her Saturn.
His Evelyn trine her Venus.


Her Adams opposes his Moon
Her Eva conjuncts his Juno

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Well, I would also exclude those, where the man is a despot and the wife fears him. Doesn`t sound very healthy to me either.

Of course

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posted March 22, 2009 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what orb are you using pls DD?

couple married for 25 yrs
his evelyn conjunct her NN/amor (1)
his eva opp her sun (3) trine her mars/saturn/eva
his adam trine her venus and opp her juno
her eva opp his sun/moon
her adam trine his mars/saturn/eros

couple married for 35 yrs
his evelyn trine her moon/mars/karma and opp her eros
his eva conjunct her saturn, opp her amor
his adam nothing
her evelyn trine his moon, opp his mars/NN, conjunct his eros
her eva opp his venus/uranus
her adam trine his venus/chiron, conjunct his kaali

wow lots of moon/mars/saturn/NN aspects. seems to be a pattern

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