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Topic: Theory.............SR for men
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writesomething unregistered
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posted March 22, 2009 09:00 AM
I have a theory that when a man has a child with a woman, his SR has SATURN or PLUTO in the 5th house. Im noticing a strong pattern with this in solar return charts. What do you think? Look at some SRs of men, and tell me what you notice. IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 87 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 22, 2009 11:32 AM
Hmmmm..... my son's father had Saturn in the 7th and Pluto in the 3rd in his SR when our child was born. But, he had Mercury, Venus, Mars, Uranus and Neptune in the 5th and the Sun and Jupiter in the 4th..... However, *I* had Saturn in the 5th in *my* SR chart for that year IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 318 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 22, 2009 11:43 AM
my child's father had saturn in 9th, and NN in 5th...i had mars in 5th at the time - the child is an aries...and my NN was on my IC.IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 87 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 22, 2009 11:47 AM
That's interesting, katatonic!! My NN was conjunct my Sun in the 1st by less than 11 minutes..... and I had Mars conj Pluto in my 2nd and my son is an Aries.....IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 22, 2009 12:00 PM
My maternal grandfather fathered 5 children. My mother was firstborn with a woman that he was in very brief (unfortunately sham) marriage with. She disappeared without a trace,and so my mom never knew her.The rest of his children with a woman that he was married to for 40 years until his death. My mother was born on June 13, 1954. My grandfather was born June 22,1935. My mom was born 9 days before my grandfather's birthday. My grandfather's Solar Return after my mom was born had Sun conj Jupiter in 5th. His Solar Return during my mom's conception and birth had Eris in 5th. my Aunt Isabel was born December 26, 1958 My grandfather's 1958 Solar Return had Jupiter,North Lunar Node,and Neptune in 5th.
My Uncle Dino was born October 24, 1959 his 1959 Solar Return had Moon in 5th. My Uncle Eddie was born September 3, 1960 his 1960 Solar Return had Eris in 5th My Aunt Dede was born November 9, 1961 his 1961 Solar Return had Sun and retrograde Mercury in 5th. As you see, none of his Solar Returns had Saturn nor Pluto in 5th. my Aunt Dede was the last of the children to be born. My stepgrandmother had 3 other preganancies that ended in miscarriages. I don't have dates for those. I believe Eris counts in the Solar Return. If Pluto does, then so should Eris with Eris being larger. They are both kuiper belt dwarf planets.
I have no children yet, but I checked solar returns for the placements you mentioned 2009 has retrograde Uranus in 4th and conjunct 5th house cusp with 1 degree orb There is also Sun-Mercury-Ceres in 12th trine Moon in 4th. Solar Return Mercury-Ceres conjunct my Sun and Solar Return Moon conjunct my Moon (lunar return on same day as my solar return). This should be one of the most significant Solar Return periods ever.
2010 has no planets in 5th. Sun conjunct Venus with 16 minutes of arc in 9th,and that conjunction sextiles Pluto-Ceres-North Lunar Node in 11th. Moon in 6th trine Mercury in 10th,square Saturn in 8th. 2011 has Saturn in 5th sextile Mars in 5th. Sun in 6th oppose Jupiter in 11th,sextile Pluto in 8th which trines Jupiter - a Wedge. 2012 has Pluto in 5th oppose Ceres in 11th,and Uranus in 8th squares it - t-square. Sun-Saturn in 3rd trine retrograde Neptune in 7th, sextile Pluto in 5th. 2013 has retrograde Uranus in 5th. Sun in 12th conjunct North Lunar Node in 1st and Ascendant in Solar Return,and that configuration conjuncts my Sun. That indicates a very signficant Solar Return period. 2014 has no planets in 5th, but it is a very significant Solar Return. Sun-Venus(conjunct within 1 degree)in 9th sextile Moon-Mars-Pluto in 12th. If there is a major aspect between Sun and Moon in Solar Return, it's a significant Solar Return 2015 has Venus-Mars-Jupiter conjunction and North Lunar Node in 5th. There is a Moon-Ascendant conjunction,and trines the North Lunar Node in 5th. Sun in 6th trine retrograde Neptune in 11th. This indicates a very significant Solar Return period. I do plan on setting up a nonprofit neurodiversity organization during one of those Solar Return periods. I want to help special education needs/neurodivergent/Indigo,Crystal people(especially children) through advocacy,the healing arts, and Astrology The 5th house planets in Solar Return could be in synchronicity with my helping children. Raymond
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amowls Knowflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 22, 2009 04:27 PM
My friend Bret is having a child in 3 weeks and his solar return has Pluto in the 5th It doesn't work for my dad though, he has an empty 5th. IP: Logged |
Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 2 From: Mercury Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 23, 2009 08:27 AM
I don't know if I did this right but I set up a solar return for me for July 9, 2003 when my son was born and I have Moon, Chiron, Ceres, and Vertex in the 5th.------------------ Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚ Gemini Sun 24˚ Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house) Gemini Mercury 25˚ Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon) And yes, i'm a guy! IP: Logged |
writesomething unregistered
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posted March 23, 2009 05:55 PM
Gemini- I mean a solar return for your birthday of the year. I think youre doing it incorrectly.IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 23, 2009 07:05 PM
My partner's sr for the year our first son was born hadMoon conjunct Jupiter in the 5th house Saturn in the 2nd Pluto in the 6th Mars in the 7th, hard times and frequent arguments occured Sun, Venus, Uranus, Mercury in the 10th house. ac in Cancer, nnode in 11th house On the year our 2nd son was born he had Venus in the 5th nnode, uranus, Sun, Mercury and Neptune in the 4th Saturn in the 10th Pluto in the 2nd. Asc in Scorpio, IP: Logged |
Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 2 From: Mercury Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 23, 2009 10:03 PM
So do I set up the solar return with my birth date for each year my kids were born?------------------ Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚ Gemini Sun 24˚ Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house) Gemini Mercury 25˚ Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon) And yes, i'm a guy! IP: Logged |
writesomething unregistered
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posted March 24, 2009 11:14 AM
Gemini-yes.IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 87 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2009 06:54 PM
Here are solar return charts of my friends who are female when they had babies.. The only male i have is the first chart which is my uncles he will have a baby this year and natally saturn is the 5th house ruler..He is a virgo rising... IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 87 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2009 06:54 PM
The rest are girls Amanda who is pisces rising had a libra baby with aqua moon. Her natal 5th hosue ruler is moon. She has mercury sun and moon in 5th
Aries rising has saturn in 5th house with NN natally had a baby with capricorn moon and vrgo sun and it was a boy. Has o deg taurus rising natally and had a pisces girl with pisces sun in 1st and pisces rising. Her 5th house ruler is mercury and it is conjunct mars She has virgo rising natally and saturn is the 5th house ruler she hasnt had her baby yet..
When my mum had me she also had moon in 1st. My dad had sun in 1st.. My dad has moon in his 5th house in his natal chart in pisces.
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writesomething unregistered
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posted March 24, 2009 08:37 PM
belgz- thanks for the charts but I prefer men charts. IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 87 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2009 10:12 PM
ok does the time of birth matter for a SR chart?IP: Logged |
sevannah Knowflake Posts: 1 From: Canada Registered: May 2009
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posted March 25, 2009 10:44 AM
Okay interesting, I didn my son's father's return:Aqua in 5th (he's Aquarius) Sun, Mercury, Venus, Neptune, Pallas and Chiron in the 5th. Just for fun I did my Libra love intersts who has no children for 2010/2011 Libra in the 5th Sun, Mercury, Venus, Saturn and Vesta in the 5th. Each 5 planets in the 5th house. Hmmmmm..... I wonder if that means that my Libra will have a child with me or someone else...... ------------------ It's just another day in the life of Aquarius. Sun: Aquarius Moon: Aquarius Venus: Aquarius Mercury: Aquarius Mars: Taurus Rising: Cancer IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted March 25, 2009 11:02 AM
How funny! for the same period that my SR shows my Moon,chiron uranus and Valentine in my 5TH My BF´s SR is having: Neptune cj Valentine and kiron and moon in his 5H!all Pisces. Ceres kikx NN IP: Logged |