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venus in gemini
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posted March 26, 2009 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys,
I thought this was a good article for those of us who lost someone during this Venus retrograde. It doesn't make it hurt any less, but it helps to understand maybe what they were going through.

I just try to step above the pain and tell myself, "everything happening now is in my highest good". That there is a purpose to it, a higher intent that is unfolding. That it wasn't about us. That it was something they had to do for their soul evolution, for their growth.

Venus Retrograde: Does This Relationship Serve Me?

How comfortably can our existing relationships contain our recently surging need to serve our own desires first?

This question cannot be answered through quiet contemplation. We often encounter desire in an instant, not having previously known this was what we wanted until presented with it. Even if we already do secretly possess awareness of a certain inner hunger, we can't reliably know how our other half will respond to our expressing and/or going after it.

How well we're able to pleasurably chase an impulse, without feeling boxed in or put upon by those we share our life with (or by our ideas about them), is necessarily an experiential lesson. We don't know until we test it out…until we courageously pursue that which, in a single split-second, suddenly sparks our 'feels so right!' instincts, not being too sure exactly where such an action will carry us but rather excited to discover what'll happen next.

In case you haven't noticed, we are presently in the midst of just such a lesson:

Will you comply with your intuitive impulses, ready to clutch any opportunity before giving it the chance to pass you by... though such acts may fundamentally impact an important relationship, when you aren't able or willing to defend your behavior ('it just feels so right!') and/or the other person isn't able or willing to understand it? (And will you later regret your hastiness?)

Or will you resist these self-centered yearnings ('…for what in the world could be worse than being seen as self-centered?') out of respect for somebody else, sacrificing what might prove to be a passing fancy (or, then again, might not) to preserve things just as they are? (And will you grow to resent this person, as you're left to wonder, into perpetuity, what might've been?)

Since February 2nd, Venus has resided in Aries, a sign where her innate skills of compromise and congeniality are unconsciously flavored with a 'me first' crudeness. Venus's basic principle is to unite us with the people and things we feel most affinity with…often bringing us, as a result, the experience of love and/or wealth, two of Venus's most desired gifts. Aries, however, is a trailblazing individualist, flying by the seat of his pants much of the time. Trying something new, as far as Aries is concerned, is more appealing than continuing to do the same old thing another forty-seven identical times in a row. Yet, obviously, it becomes harder to 'unite' without sufficient consistency or coordination.

See the rub? Venus is out of sorts in Aries.
As of this coming Friday (Mar 6), Venus will now be retrograde, too, for the next six weeks, exacerbating the tensions she already faces while in the sign of the lone warrior. And a retrograde Venus is a trickster Venus, I should warn you. She confuses our usually clear affinities with surprising desires for other types of people and things—but are they really as wonderful as they appear? She shows us the other side to the people and things we typically prefer, leaving us to question those original preferences. She sometimes even drops old flames from the past back into our consciousness, to remind us how far we've come, to present that wished-for occasion to make that wholly different decision, or to finally close the book, once and for all.

During a Venus-retrograde period, of course, it's very difficult to discern real long-lasting value from fleeting or limited appeal, especially in assessing a particular person's worth to you personally. But during this retrograde period, we don't need to know whether this is all it's cracked up to be on a longer-term basis—just as long as we aren't putting all our eggs into this one basket or unduly committing ourselves.
Each of us is learning, through trial by fire, more about our own overarching sense of how and where we find personal value. For now, we must practice fully enjoying what every fresh moment has to offer, with a brave hand ready to move whenever inspiration strikes…and without attachment to any specific faces, features or trappings, as the scene could just as quickly change once again in the next fresh moment. (Easier said than done, alas, since there will be unanticipated fallout when one person's in-the-moment thrusts collide with another's.)

The Aries influence over Venus only further emphasizes the necessity to throw ourselves into each present Now, by setting up countless circumstances in which the best goodies are only available when we act quickly, on good faith either we'll get what we want or, if we don't, we'll be just fine picking ourselves up and continuing to move. Aries doesn't waste a lot of energy on forethought. To hear Aries tell it, we can always take another step in a different direction. If things don't work out in one arena, we'll simply do something else. From this perspective, it's much harder to interpret any action as a 'mistake'—the only real mistake would be a refusal to act, in fear of the unknown.

As I said, one of the main issues affected by Venus's retrograde through Aries will be our relationship sector. We may find our eyes wandering to new and exciting attractions, which maybe signal our old and safe commitment is at the end of its lifespan—or, instead, indicate it's time to appreciatively reconnect with our tried-and-true. We might fall madly in love at first sight. Is this glorious person really 'The One', or are we merely restoring our general faith in romance with a short-but-meaningful fling? No need to answer today. 'Relationship issues', by the way, don't only apply in the love zone. Similar situations could unfold with friends, co-workers or housemates. 'Final' resolution (as if anything's really final) mustn't be expect before May.

One key principle: We mustn't fear ******* somebody else off, in order to take a confident stand for our own self-actualization.

Yes, it's okay to choose yourself. Why wouldn't it be? You are ultimately all you've got, absolutely 100% for sure, for your entire life. You've, therefore, got to keep you happy.
http://www.astrobarry.com/2009/mar109.php

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kindjali
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posted March 26, 2009 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Good topic...i posted something concerning myself.
I had a break-up on 15th March after 1 year of good relationship (I can be objective).
Suddenly she cut the cords.
I still don't understand it.
I don't know is this Venus retro (probably YES), but in next 2 weeks I have Jupiter conjuction Venus (ruler of the 5th house) + tr. NN conjucting Sun/Moon midpoint + Progressive Sun conjucting Sun/Moon midpoint.
I am trying to get answer in myself. But I am also trying to find answer from anybody...is this temporary separation?

K.

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posted March 26, 2009 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that. I can't say I've "officially" lost someone...but my husband has turned into a complete stranger since February, though at present we're still married. I don't know if our marriage is going to make it, and things are so strained I don't know if I even want it to anymore. The wonderful man I loved and married six years ago has suddenly become someone else completely, just in the course of a couple months. I don't see him in there at all right now - it's as if he's disappeared and someone else took over. It's strange how he went from one state to a complete shift in such a short amount of time.

Besides Venus being Rx, Saturn is currently Rx too and it's been transiting my 7th house for a while now. So, I've been facing a lot of challenges in my marriage anyway, but certainly not to this extreme extent.

Still, no matter what's happening (a lot of other things are testing me at this time as well and seemingly falling apart) I tell myself, whatever is meant to be, will be. And I know that's true.
Things are speeding up on the planet, moving faster and faster, and we need to be aware of that and know that some things that served us in the past won't serve us in the future. But I wouldn't make any drastic moves myself during this Rx period. I'm waiting for the dust to settle and then I'll see if we're still standing.

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kindjali
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posted March 26, 2009 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe everthing has some sense and meaning, but I don't understand next 2 weeks. This transits and progressions should occur in some other time. I am not pesimistic, but I am dealing with Cap woman that has Pluto conjucting SUn at the moment.

K.

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posted March 26, 2009 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did 'lose' a couple of people who were already on their way out anyway (I kind of tossed them out). I officially wrapped up loose ends with my ex-husband too.

I wasn't sure if it was Venus rx only though - I tend to spring clean people out of my life every few years if they become too high maintenance. Still, maybe Rx was a catalyst to an extent.

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Lucia23
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posted March 26, 2009 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex and I worked through some old stuff and tried to say "goodbye" to each other again, to let go a little of what we're clinging to.

Also, a new friend I feel very drawn to has sort of disappeared from my life, sadly.

My V Rx is in my 3rd house, and a lot of the focus has been on old issues with a sibling. (Also, my sibling is having a tough time and I am trying to be there for/care for her.)

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posted March 26, 2009 12:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex lost ME. Back in July he had cut us off for no reason..it hurt so bad, but I kept agreeing to his random, far and few between requests to get together for sex..but about a week ago I told him off. I'm ending his bullsh*t..

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posted March 26, 2009 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man, that sucks, Lucia. And other posters, too. I had no idea everyone was going through such a tough time.

I've got Venus Rx on my Moon in the 12th right now and it's been redemptive in some odd way, but some of the issues with relationships have been longstanding for a number of years. I'm thinking Venus Rx is like the final cut or something.

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kindjali
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posted March 26, 2009 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah ppl,

But why then I am getting this transits in next 2 weeks? I am ****** off...

K.

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posted March 26, 2009 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Venus Retrograde is transiting my 4th house. I went back and looked at the transits for that day. Here are some of them, from both the Natal and the Draconic. I guess all I can say right now is, "what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger."

Natal:
karma square saturn
karma opposition akashic
karma conjunct destinn
karma quinqunx lilith

node opposition uranus
node opposition juno
node square tyche
node square psyche
node conjunct pholus

venus conjunct lilith
venus square karma

saturn square venus
saturn square saturn
saturn opposition akashic
saturn square ASC

uranus square venus
uranus square saturn
uranus opposition destinn

pluto square eros
pluto square hera

jupiter opposition juno

juno conjunct chiron

Draconic:
karma opposition ASC
karma square valentine
karma conjunct venus

saturn square pluto
saturn square valentine
saturn conjunct DSC

pluto square venus
pluto opposition akashic

node opposition mars
node square sun

chiron square mercury
chiron sesquidrate venus
chiron square uranus
chiron square chiron

fortuna opposition uranus
fortuna square akashic
fortuna square eros
fortuna square MC

akashic opposition uranus
akashic conjunct DSC

juno square chiron

lilith conjunct MC

eros square akashic
eros square destinn

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posted March 27, 2009 02:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did I " lose " someone ?

No , lets just say , I did " loose " someone ..like loosing dead weight - my fiance - IDIOT PANSY -


Venus RX rocks - or else i would be getting married in a few months to a boy who would take me to task everytime his mamma complained i wasnt giving her enough attention.

Tigerlily - sorry about that

Is ur hubby going they any pluto or saturn transits ?

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Diandra23
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posted March 27, 2009 06:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im sorry for your losses,but nothing is forever!

If this is sth which makes the person apreend some important lesson,then maybe when things cool off,the person might return,but a better person.

Venus de India

was your fiance the one you refered as your Twin Soul cause i thought that this kind of conection were forever once the two persons encounter one another.

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posted March 27, 2009 07:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra - NO NO NO - it wasnt my Twin soul ....gasps....

He was an " arranged marriage " fiance - we were introduced by our families and we had good chemistry when we got engaged - but then....venus Rx.

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posted March 27, 2009 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venusdeindia,
So you have moved on from your Twin Soul? You feel that you are not to be together in this incarnation? I don't know if it will ever come together with mine. There is a huge wall between us that seems unscalable. We just can't seem to get over the wall.

Can you tell me how you were able to move on? I have tried to date other men. I have tried to be with other men. I come home sobbing in tears, because no one else compares. I can't pull my heart away from it, and I am in constant pain. I have done all the exercises and visualizations you suggested in one of your older threads. Nothing works.

I guess if anyone would understand what I am going through, it would be you. Although I would imagine your situation was more difficult, since he was your Twin Soul, and IQ feels that mine is my Twin Flame.

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posted March 27, 2009 10:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VIG - email me , because its too private to go into here.

I AM going to be with my Twinsoul - just not at the moment - my OS told me to be in a relationship with someone similar to him so that i can be made ready for my twin - my fiance was similar to my twin in many ways. It didnt work out and now i have learnt what i needed to be with my twin

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posted March 27, 2009 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venusdeindia, yes, my husband has a lot of funky transits hitting him:

Transit Venus (currently Rx) is conjuncting his Draconic IC, opposing his Draconic MC, and squaring his Draconic Chaos and Draconic Uranus.

Transit Saturn (currently Rx) is conjuncting his Draconic Valentine and Draconic Penelope, opposing his Union, Joya, Draconic Mercury and Draconic Aura, and squaring his natal Saturn, True Black Moon Lilith and Draconic Pluto.

Transit Uranus is conjuncting his Eros and Draconic Kaali, opposing his Part of Marriage (for a man) and Part of Love, and squaring his natal Venus, Karma, Nessus, Priapus/Lunar Perigree, Draconic DNA, Draconic Groom and Draconic Tara.

Transit Neptune, Transit Juno and Transit Chiron are all conjuncting his natal Amor, Draconic Briede and Draconic Cupido, and opposing his Draconic Saturn.

Transit Pluto is conjuncting his natal Mercury and Aura, opposing his Valentine, Penelope (Penelope represents devotion and fidelity) and Draconic Chaos, and squaring his Pluto and Hera.

Transit Karma is conjuncting his natal Pluto and Hera, opposing his Draconic IC, and squaring his Mercury, Aura, Valentine, Penelope and Draconic Chaos.

Transit Pholus is conjuncting his natal Cupido and Briede, and opposing his natal Saturn.

Transit Valentine is conjuncting his natal Priapus/Lunar Perigree, Draconic Chiron, Draconic Groom and Draconic DNA, opposing his natal Venus, Karma and Draconic Tara, and squaring his Eros, Persephone, Draconic Kaali, Part of Marriage (for a man) and Part of Love.

Transit Amor is conjuncting his Proserpina, opposing his Draconic Pluto and True Black Moon Lilith, and squaring his Draconic Valentine, Draconic Penelope, Union, Joya, Draconic Mercury and Draconic Aura.

Transit Union is conjuncting his Asbolus and his Draconic Cupido/Psyche midpoint, opposing his Draconic Guinevere, and squaring his Vertex, Draconic Amor, Aphrodite and Hypnos.

Wow, looking at all that...no wonder things are so crazy. Yikes!

My transits aren't pretty either but I don't have the energy to type it all right now.

Who knows how things will turn out? I accept whatever my Cosmic Plan is and I'm just trying to "go with the flow," as my Pisces N Node dictates.

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posted March 27, 2009 12:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANK GOD!!

Everything will turn out wonderfull!

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posted March 28, 2009 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venusdeindia,
I sent you an email!

Tigerlily,
Wow, your husband is really going through some transits! I guess it makes sense that you started feeling the difficulty in February. The dates for the Venus Retrograde period are:

February 1st - 29.12 Pisces, enters the Rx zone

March 6th - 15.27 Aries, goes stationary retrograde

April 17th - 29.12 Pisces, goes stationary direct

May 20th - 15.27 Aries, leaves Rx zone

April 3rd is supposed to be difficult, because Venus squares Pluto. And then Pluto goes retrograde on April 4th.

My guy called me on March 14th to break it off. He said he had been thinking about things the last month (Feb). But had really been thinking about it the last week (March 6th-14th).

Never say never though. There is always the chance that people will change their mind after they come out of the retrograde period. Energy changes.

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posted March 29, 2009 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lynx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born with Venus in retrograde. I wonder how this effects me.

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Got Gemini?
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posted March 29, 2009 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, I didn't think anything significant was going to happen to me during this RX period. Well, about 15 minutes ago, I ran into my old Aqua who I went out with during the summer and fall of 2007. Our synastry is pretty good with some good and bad but mostly good. We ended it cause she needed to grow up. I wouldn't say I loved her but I was very close to falling for her back then.

She and I get along EXCELLENTLY. I don't plan on taking this any farther but if she is around after I get my divorce, it's on like popcorn LOL!

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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posted March 29, 2009 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 29, 2009 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I did lose someone very important to me. I still can't go a day without crying. Best wishes to everyone out there who lost someone. You all have my deepest condolences.

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posted March 30, 2009 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

Venus in Gemini, I had a same thing!
She was thinking whole February, break up relationship on 15th March.
Is this really over?

K.

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posted March 30, 2009 06:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara

please dont worry in advance!!

we atract what we fear,right?

So visualize him full of health and happiness.

( i say this cause i know how these fears can attach so hard onto our minds-im with Pluto on my IC and most sites say it can indicate death in family...so i keep trying not to think of that myself.i already lost my dog...)

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I had a massive fight with the person im seeing the night Venus Rx started and haven't seen them since but haven't lost them. But no ex's have come back or anything, just money issues from 8yrs ago when i was in high school...yeah sheriff rocked up to my house for $17000 worth of fines...and the car i smashed into on fri 13th wants 8000 even though i'm not liable as he was illegally parked.

So if anything, money issues coming back to bite me on the arse during the retrograde period. Though, i do have to say last Venus retrograde I broke up with my last serious ex and have been single since

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