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Nyah
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posted March 27, 2009 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since this Venus Rx has been quite awful so far, I thought I should spicy it up even more by trying internet dating, LOL!

It's just for fun, but now I've been chatting with a guy who puzzles me a lot - and since we haven't met I'm turning to astrology for answers... I can't figure out if he is a cold psycho or just an intelligent guy with some baggage..? He freaks me out a bit - seriously! - but I can't stay away either, he fascinates me in some weird way.

Also, I have never seen this combination of planets in a chart - the personal planets and rising sign only contains air and fire... detached and dominant?? I mean, he can seem VERY cold to me. But dangerously cold or just cold?

He is an excellent linguist as you may already have guessed by all the Gemini influences, I feel surrounded lol! I have to really stay alert to match him in our conversations... He has an interesting job too, but not sure if it suits a Gemini or not..

Placements:
ASC Gemini
Sun Gemini
Moon Aries
Mercury Gemini
Venus Gemini (karmic degree)
Mars Leo

Some aspects:
Sun Square Moon
Sun Conjunction Venus
Sun Trine Uranus
Moon Sextile Mercury
Moon Square Venus
Moon Trine Saturn
Moon Quincunx Uranus
Moon Trine Neptune
Moon Opposition Pluto
Moon Sextile Ascendant
Mercury Sextile Saturn
Mercury Opposition Neptune
Mercury Trine Pluto
Mercury Conjunction Ascendant
Venus Trine Uranus
Mars Square Jupiter
Saturn Square Uranus
Saturn Sextile Ascendant
Neptune Sextile Pluto
Neptune Opposition Ascendant
Pluto Trine Ascendant

Some of our synastry aspects are:
Sun Trine Sun
My Sun Square his Mercury
My Sun Trine his Venus
My Sun Trine his Uranus
My Sun Square his ASC
My Moon Trine his Jupiter
My Moon Square his Pluto
My Moon Conjunct his MC
Mercury Square Mercury
My Mercury Sextile his Jupiter
My Mercury Square his Uranus
My Mercury Square his ASC
My Venus Trine his Jupiter
My Venus Conjunct his MC
My Mars Trine his Sun
My Mars Square his Mercury
My Mars Trine his Venus
Mars Opposition Mars
My Mars Square his Jupiter
My Mars Trine his Uranus
My Jupiter Conjunct his Saturn
My Saturn Square his Mercury
My Saturn Trine his Jupiter
My Saturn Square his Neptune
My Saturn Square his ASC
My ASC Conjunction his Sun
My ASC Sextile his Mars (exact)
My ASC Opposition his Neptune
My MC Opposition his Saturn
MC Conjunction MC (exact)

I'm basically wondering if this person would be bad for me. I sense he has some power over me and I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing... I wonder what he's capable of... uhm, maybe I should follow my gut already and run for the hills?? lol!

Q: Is this person a liar? is he manipulative?

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sunshine_lion
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posted March 27, 2009 03:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just be careful. please.

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Nyah
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posted March 27, 2009 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am! I'm not even telling him my real name and he lives in another city also...

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scrappydog
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posted March 27, 2009 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With all that gemini I would say he definately has the potential to be a liar and manipulater. I joined an online dating site recently too, when transiting saturn started to conjunct my venus in my 5th house. Strange I would now and not a couple years ago when transiting uranus opposed my venus. All the men I have met so far are borderline sociopathic, just opportunists looking for someone to use in some way. I'm staying far away from these sites now, I've learned a lesson in this saturn transit.

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Lara
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posted March 27, 2009 03:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with scrappy! They ate all borderline .......paths.

Look at it this way - why are they all on the net? Cos they can't pull in real life cos the girls run for the hills aarrgghh

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Diandra23
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posted March 27, 2009 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HEY GIRLS...

dont be so hard on internet dating---afterall i met mine there!!

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sunshine_lion
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posted March 27, 2009 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my experience -

drunks
drug addicts
stalkers
fetish freakzoids

pertty embarrassing to tell the cops you are being stalked by some online wierdo, well it was for me, because i know all the cops in my town.

hows the kids? great...did ya ever catch that weirdo parking down the road watching my house? no...keep trying...thanks

diandra - you are one of the fewit works for...


i just think she should be careful.

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Glaucus
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posted March 27, 2009 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

ummmmm.....I have been a member of internet dating sites.

not all guys are like that.

I am a very shy person,and not the type into picking up. I don't like the bar,club scene...especially I don't drink alcohol.

Raymond

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 27, 2009 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister met her husband online and they're really happy. Together 6 years. And he's perfectly sane and a good guy. Of course there's a chance the guy might be a jerk or dangerous, but not always.

I do think this guy is manipulative to an extent, but that doesn't mean he's a bad guy either. You're born with a chart and you work with it, or you let the harsh aspects reign power over you.
You really should trust your instincts here first and foremost. They are the one true thing.

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taurusvirgoleolady1974
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posted March 27, 2009 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are jerks scattered everywhere, actually. The one you meet at the grocery store may be crazy. Or your bff's first cousin that you were introduced to may be a wierdo. I have dated someone i met on line and he was an a$$. but not because i met him on line. just because. if i would have met him at the gas station he stil would have been that a$$. the only real difference is you cant really catch a person's vibe on the phone or through emails. (ie cant use your gut instinct if you are not physically around them) and, alot of times there are far away, which can be convenient for them. there are good and bad guys everywhere. and gals. i have heard a few happy endings, though.

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cheshirekat
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posted March 27, 2009 04:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa, A Gemini stellium..he must be a real chatty cathy XD lol. I am curious about his Sun square Moon, he must have some real inner battles to deal with.

That must be another reason why he's so hot and cold, I don't have the square but I have Sun opps. Moon and sometimes I am flippant..>.>;

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Nyah
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posted March 27, 2009 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha yeah, talking - I mean writing - a lot... and using every word in the dictionary probably too

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 27, 2009 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scratch what I said. They're not happily married. And it's my sister who's the jerk here.

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Lara
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posted March 27, 2009 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Present company excluded Glaucus

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gorgeousbutterfly
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posted March 27, 2009 08:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
agreed, be very careful.

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Okay, this is not about astrology now (because I don't know about the birthdata of all the poeple involved) - but I wanna sketch 3 stories of love & attraction via the internet - and what has become of these. (Nothing good - but huge disappointments and hurt.) All of this has happened in my personal friend's circle - this is not about teenagers, all the people involved are plain adults, aged 28, 34, 37, 38, 38 and 43 years.

I myself do like the internet a lot, my natal Mercury is quite "Uranian", I am running a blog-page myself and am involved in social networking-platforms as well - so, basically, I am openminded, playful and pro-internet! Don't get me wrong!

This is what happened:

1) A married guy (father of 2 kids) from Europe started an intense internet-flirt with an American woman via the internet. They started to see each other (which is complicated and expensive to organize, of course - interncontinental and all...) Actually he flew over to here twice, stood there for 4-6 weeks each time. They were so madly in love (as it seemed), that he decided to leave his wife and kids and start a new life in the US with her ... But when he came there a 3rd time, after having confessed to his Eurpean wife and left his family behind ... she treated him like dirt ... To make it short: She never was serious - he had to creep back to his old European surroundings ... still split from his former wife, moved into a small one-room-appartment then ... and slowly is trying to repair his marriage now and to have contact with his kids and all. (He says: "Don't know what happenened - but it was the biggest illusion and the biggest mistake of my life.)

2.) My own story: Fell in love with a man myself, via the internet. Also long distance, but an inner-European thing, same language. The E-mail-phase lasted about half a year, grew more intense - we decided to meet - and fell for each other. At that time he was still involved with his former girlfriend, but this relationship was not good anymore. I had known about his girlfriend - still, the attraction between us was very (!) strong, so on our first meeting, he did get closer quickly, despite of "morals". After we had met, he left her, indeed - said he was free for me now, and that he had the feeling I was "the woman he had been waiting for for all his life". So we started a real relationship then, all in the open, we visited each other regularly and often (never more than 14 days between the meetings, and always stood together for at least 5 up to 20 days when we met.) We didn't proceed too quickly ... we had this long distance thing over about 10 months, it grew more intense, slowly, but strongly. And finally we talked about moving closer, that is: Me moving to him, to his country, into his appartment - to give it a try and see whether we can share a life with each other. (He always said: "It's great when we're together, but awful, when we're apart.") So I, being a self-employed person then, started to organize everything, cancelled my appartment in my old hometown, organized some freelancing job in his country, everything. Suddenly I felt he got tense about everything ... and even more suddenly, just 4 weeks before my actual move was scheduled (!), he suggested: "Put it on hold, let's talk about that once more..." Which was sort of impossible, because everyhting WAS prepared for the move already, we had been involved in the planning pahse for 2 months already, I had signed all these contracts, and he had always spurred me on to do so. Actually ... we never had a decent "final talk" then at all, anymore. He just dropped any conversation for a few weeks ... and I had let him know that this is just a childish and mean thing to suggest "on hold" - after some sort of emotional blackmail that he had applied to me - he somehow had forced me to organize that move, to "prove my love to him"... (That's what he had said once.)At first I wanted to fly over once more, at least for that "talk" - but I cancelled that "talk" to ... I was so hurt and confused and felt so disrespected and lost my faith in all this thing within an instance. As if a huge illusion came down with a bang. The date for the move passed, I had invested so much energy, time and money in that - and all that love story ended then. (Just now, about a year later ... he tried to contacted me again, via e-mail, asking me: "How are you?", just a few week ago. Pffffff!)

3.) Just yesterday a male friend from the US confessed to me this story: He, single father of a little son, had fallen in love with a woman from the UK, single mother to two little girls. They wrote E-Mails for about 3 months ... then met for the first time, met a couple of times after that ... and after almost 6 months decided: She'd move over to the US - and they would start a whole new life there, all their kids involved. He lives at the East Coast in the US - and they decided to both move to West Coast - to start an equally "new life" there together, in surroundings that are new for them both, very "democratic", in a way. Fact is: My US male friend just let me know: That woman DID move to the West Coast of the US now, her two kids with her ... But instead of living with him (he also had given up all his former things, job, appartment on The East Coast - to prepare for a life with that woman, etc.) - well instead of living with him she obviously has found someone else quickly! That is: She let him know that she had fallen in love with another man on the West Coast (during 2 weeks or so...), while he was packing his last boxes on the West Coast (they had searched and found that new appartment over there together, just he wasn't able to arrive at the same time, but one month later, due to his professional duties.) She now told him that she'd prefer for him NOT to come over. So .. she let him drop ... and my male friend is devastated now on the other end of the US-continent and does not know what REALLY happened.

This is all so NUTS!!!! I am really convinced that there is something about these internet-contacts ... that lets people's hopes run high sooooo quickly. Some huge "illusion"-machine. And, ever so often, one of the involved parties draws a line somewhen in between ... Obviously ... there's a mechanism included that makes adult people lose their minds. ALL these stories above seem so childish and ridiculous in a way. But I must say: All the 3 people involved (that family man from Europe, I myself, and that US-fella) - we all have been totally serious about our respective love prospect and really wanted to give it a try in real, practical terms ... and all of us had been dropped by the other party ... without really knowing, understanding why ... and without any decent "final conversation" or excuse or explanation or anything. All of us feel kind of embarassed and exposed - apart from the immense hurt!

It IS a tricky thing, such e-mail-communication and long distance love affairs that stem from that. I only wanna say: Yes - beeeeeee careful! ;-)

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posted March 28, 2009 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I joined Spiritual Matchmaking http://www.spiritualmatchmaking.com/

It might be a good dating site to find people that are on a spiritual path

I am convinced that with my Moon aspecting 5 kuiper belt objects(trine Ixion-Quaoar,square Varuna,sextile Sedna....semisquare Eris by Right Ascension), I have no choice but to be with a woman that is on a spiritual path(very likely to be in the healing arts) or else I will get hurt. I've been hurt by a lot of females in the past including my exgf,Meghann. I don't want to go through that again. I am not resentful about it, and I even believe that I have a lot of karma with females,especially with my mother that I've had a lot of abuse from but also have a strong obligation to support her because of her health problems. My Moon is even quincunx Karma with only 10 minutes of arc! Of course astrologers can see that with my t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd to see that I have a lot of misfortune with females. My Sun in Scorpio in 2nd trine Moon does indicate possible good relationships with women.


Transiting Pluto just started conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint, and I joined Spiritual Matchmaking site yesterday. It's been conjuncting my Sun/Moon midpoint in Right Ascension. It's squaring my Moon/Sedna midpoint in Right Ascension. Then after Pluto goes retrograde, it will be squaring my Moon/Sedna midpoint again.

Raymond

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 28, 2009 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bottom line is to trust your instincts and intuition. There's always an exception and it might not work, or it might work great.
I don't care what I read, how 'right' a person seems online, perfect, etc... NOTHING can replace one's own intuition and instincts.

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posted March 28, 2009 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does 'dangerously cold' mean ? lol

You mean he sounds like a psychopath with no emotions or just ignorant ? Gemini people are not so heartless by the way, which was what I always thought. They are capable of long-term relationships too if they really like you It's all about your punctuation lol

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Nyah
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posted March 28, 2009 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah hm, ok, seriously I've had enough of this internet-dating-crap soon and I've only tried it for 2 weeks now.. lol! I attract freaks!!

I thought it was gonna be a fast and easy way to get some attention - to boost my confidence and keep my mind off my broken heart for a while.

Turns out it's just another way to feel alone, vulnerable, not knowing who to trust and of course - rejection all over again.

So, more lost than before even!
Nice done lol! bah.

I'm glad some people succeed in this though, it's a jungle..

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Kamots
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posted March 28, 2009 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamots     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Psychopathic ego structure is quite common in society, mainly because our society's mentality itself is manipulative, power-oriented and predatorial.

If you want to detect a dangerous psychopathic structure over the internet (which does not imply this person commits crimes), don't expect coldness or anything bad. Expect to feel fascinated and charmed. Like drawn to mermaid's chant. People who are deeply twisted have a lot of magnetism and charisma.

So now you can tell me "hey but I've met people who made me feel that way and they were okay!". I'll say all right! that's precisely why the internet is so dangerous. There's no real way to distinguish until you actually get to know the person for a while. Eventually, subtle manipulative behaviour and the feeling that you're dealing with an emotional "black hole" (sucks in all your love but keeps giving you the feeling that you're not giving them enough) will come up. The charm won't go away though.

Hey, this doesn't mean you should give up or that you can't meet "the one" through the internet. It just means you should remember that feeling you know a person and actually knowing a person are two diferent things. And it takes time.

Nyah, I understand how you feel cause I broke up with my girlfriend in january and it still hurts like b*tch... but I doubt getting romantic attention will really help with the pain. Just eat a lot of chocolate, watch some dvds, vent it out here and go out with friends (no romance involved). Everything is gonna be okay

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I met my ex husband online and he turned out to be the most evil, manipulating pr1ck ever! It totally freaked me out that i could go with someone like that let alone marry and have 2 kids with him... took me a long time to get over the shock of it all actually.

He lied about everything, verbally abused me for 6 years and didn't do a day's work from the eve before l had our first child.
He's the only person l will ever dislike when i'm lying on my deathbed even though l forgive him. I have learnt lessons that would have been hard to find if he hadn't come along.

Just wanted to say BEWARE. These guys can lie, deceive and mess your head up because online is just that - online. It's a fake existence.

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Nyah
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posted March 28, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks you all feels better to hear you care! sort of, even if you all are just online friends as well hehe! <3
I'm actually eating chocolate ice cream in this very second lol, and it's Saturday night. Gonna watch a movie.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 28, 2009 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The internet is no different from the pub or the nightclub; enter and meet anyone in the setting at your own risk. In fact, I've come across more crazy people on the nightclub scene than on the internet....thanks in part to my naive Sag friend. I haven't done internet dating myself but I won't knock people for trying it, everyone has their reasons!

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In this world I believe everyone is fake to a degree online or offline until proven otherwise.

I don't really trust people online or in the real world but I guess it's harder because people rely on visual sense to determine rather someone's a complete whacko but even visual fails because people still get tricked, abused, used, ect.

I always say go with your instincts, even someone makes you feel uncomfortable, it's for a reason.

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