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Dazzled
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posted March 28, 2009 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzled     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, it's amazing how there are so many magnetic people in LL, maybe it's this pull that attracts me to this site.

I think the charts of actors such as Johnny Depp, Monica Belluci, Meryl Streep, Audrey and Katherine Hepburn and so on. People that effortlessly draws.

We can also have personalities such as
Hitler(yeah spooky choice but he was known for his electric speeches)
even Presidents, Obama, Clinton...

Oh and Fabio *wink wink* smouldering male on the cover of hundreds of romance novels.

I would say the qualities of being magnetic and charismatic would be the ability to trigger the Unconscious and the Imagination of people. A fluid image that compels so that you either love or hate them.

I would say Pluto, Neptune and the MC aspects are probably good indicators of this ability to tingle the senses.

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Dazzled
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posted March 28, 2009 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzled     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh here I have an excerpt from Donna Cunningham's book, How to Read Your Astrological Chart.
It's a section on Fabio...

"Highlighting the Gauquelin sectors we find Pluto in the 10th house conjunct the Midheaven, while Neptune is in the powerful 10-degree range of the Ascendant, though placed in the 12th house. How well do these two symbols describe the public persona of this glamorous sex symbol? Not only are they in the Gauquelin sectors, they are emphasized in other ways. Indeed, we can call Fabio both a Plutonian and a Neptunian...

Besides being in the Gauquelin sector, romantic, fantasy-prone Neptune disposes of Fabio's Pisces Sun and aspects it by a 135-degree angle, called a sesquiquadrate. Neptune forms a close quincunx to his Gemini Moon, so it aspects both the Sun and Moon...

The public often projects its own needs or its own shadow onto the Plutonian, making them a target of dread or desire--your worst nightmare, your best fantasy..."

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Glaucus
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posted March 28, 2009 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If kuiper belt object,Pluto aspects are considered an indicator for charisma, then it would be logical for aspects involving Pluto's fellow kuiper belt objects to be indicators for charisma . After all they are transneptunians like Pluto,and so they would relate to the unconscious,masses...especially objects that are transplutonians like the cubewanos(Makemake,Quaoar,Varuna) and scattered disk objects (Eris,Sedna).
Plutinos(Orcus,Ixion) have orbits similar to Pluto,and so would be similar to Pluto in astrological influence.


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Astra
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posted March 29, 2009 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"Highlighting the Gauquelin sectors we find Pluto in the 10th house conjunct the Midheaven, while Neptune is in the powerful 10-degree range of the Ascendant, though placed in the 12th house. How well do these two symbols describe the public persona of this glamorous sex symbol? Not only are they in the Gauquelin sectors, they are emphasized in other ways. Indeed, we can call Fabio both a Plutonian and a Neptunian...

Besides being in the Gauquelin sector, romantic, fantasy-prone Neptune disposes of Fabio's Pisces Sun and aspects it by a 135-degree angle, called a sesquiquadrate. Neptune forms a close quincunx to his Gemini Moon, so it aspects both the Sun and Moon...

The public often projects its own needs or its own shadow onto the Plutonian, making them a target of dread or desire--your worst nightmare, your best fantasy..."


Wow... I have those exact placements! Pluto (in Scorpio) in 10th conjunct my midheaven (libra/scorpio cusp). Neptune is also conjunct my ascendant and my Neptune is in the 12th house. The difference is I sure as hell am NOT like Fabio.

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PeaceAngel
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posted March 29, 2009 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara - reply in LLC for you.

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gorgeousbutterfly
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posted March 29, 2009 02:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Wow... I have those exact placements! Pluto (in Scorpio) in 10th conjunct my midheaven (libra/scorpio cusp). Neptune is also conjunct my ascendant and my Neptune is in the 12th house. The difference is I sure as hell am NOT like Fabio."

Same here!!! I can't believe we have the same placements. i have pluto in 10th. Midheaven in scorpio. neptune conjunct ascendant. and my neptune is in the 12th.

I really don't think i'm magnetic. i get attention only because my leo sun and moon has a lot of energy and i project myself with a lot of energy so i get noticed. not because i'm "magnetic"

BY THE WAY, fabio is overrated. lol he has boobies. lol

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PeaceAngel
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posted March 29, 2009 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ROFL the Fabio remark gorgeousbutterfly. Really - that made me roar with laughter.

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gorgeousbutterfly
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posted March 29, 2009 02:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lmfao i saw him while i was walking my dog once, OMG......... i know this is mean but he has boobs he was wearing a shirt UNBUTTONED and you can see it...


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Astra
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posted March 29, 2009 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lmfao i saw him while i was walking my dog once, OMG......... i know this is mean but he has boobs he was wearing a shirt UNBUTTONED and you can see it...

LOL. Fabio has man-boobs?. Haha. I think that might ruin his "romantic fantasy" persona regardless of his chart.

I do get a lot of attention. They project whatever fantasy they have on me and assume I'm the person that they imagine I am when in reality their fantasy may only be 25% accurate at best. Many of them end up putting me on a pedestal while I try to live up to their standards of perfection despite the fact that I am FAR from perfect. I end up being put in leadership positions with immense responsibility whereas I prefer to be behind-the scenes and control everything from there.

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Scorp31
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posted March 29, 2009 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorp31     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can be magnetic and charming at will (sometimes I’m not even aware of this), with me it’s like a light switch that I can turn off and on. This does invoke very strong reactions in people that are around me, either they are drawn to me and really like me or they are drawn to me but have a strong negative reaction to, but will respect me as an individual.

I checked my chart and I have Ixion in Libra in the 1st. trine Jupiter in Cancer trine Sun in Scorpio. Orcus (retrograde) in Cancer 10th house trines Neptune in the 12th

I also have Neptune semi square MC -0°57' and
Pluto quintile MC +0°32', though subtle aspects I think they sprinkle my persona with charm/magnetism.

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Sun: Scorpio
Moon: Capricorn
Ascendant: Libra

Venus in Sagittarius
Mars in Sagittarius

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scrappydog
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posted March 29, 2009 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I strongly agree with pluto in the 1st, especially when it's closely conj the asc. Venus mars hard aspects. I'm surprised no one has mentioned pluto sun aspects, I think the conjunction and square between sun and pluto are some of the strongest indicaters for charisma and magnetism. With pluto in the 1st without strong aspects to personal planets, I've noticed the inner intensity and charisma isn't really there, it's just something they are able to project sometimes without even knowing and it draws people to them. But with strong pluto aspects to the sun and/or venus that plutoniam energy runs deep and they can be genuinely charasmatic people, attracting others around them like moths to a flame.

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darkdreamer
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posted March 29, 2009 03:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in 10th house conjunct MC (in Libra), sextile ASC and NN.

Also, Neptune conjunct Mars, NN and ASC in Sagittarius (Neptune being in 1st house, Mars being in 12th house).

I have a packed 1st house including Venus (squaring Pluto on the MC).


But I`m not the magnetic kind.

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Virgo/Leo Cusp
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posted March 29, 2009 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo/Leo Cusp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Highlighting the Gauquelin sectors we find Pluto in the 10th house conjunct the Midheaven, while Neptune is in the powerful 10-degree range of the Ascendant, though placed in the 12th house. How well do these two symbols describe the public persona of this glamorous sex symbol? Not only are they in the Gauquelin sectors, they are emphasized in other ways. Indeed, we can call Fabio both a Plutonian and a Neptunian...""

I have those exact placements too! Pluto in the 10th house(Libra) conjunct the Midheaven,(Libra) while Neptune is in the powerful 10-degree range of the Ascendant,(Sagittarius) though placed in the 12th house

I also have mars conjunct pluto and midheaven in the 10th house..I also have a packed 8th house and alot of pluto aspects to my natal planets and don't think I'm magnetic.....actually quite the opposite...but what I do notice is alot people look to me for leadership and knowledge...I also tend to get certain types of looks...like bed room stares...which can at times make feel uncomfortable....and I'm a chick! lol

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Astra
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posted March 29, 2009 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo/Leo cusp,

You ARE magnetic based on what you've written in your post. You may not think you are, but the magnetism is definitely present.

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ChildofVenus
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posted November 10, 2016 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo rising?

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PixieJane
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posted November 10, 2016 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Leo rising?

No. The placement may draw attention, but it's not always in a good or magnetic way. 'Course these people would be more inclined to take advantage of any charismatic appeal they do have.

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nordicsoul
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posted November 11, 2016 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lucia23:
The most magnetic guy I know is a Scorpio, Sag moon, Libra ASC. Pluto in the first, and a Mars-Venus conjunction.

It annoys me how sexy he is.


well with libra on AC combined with cheerful moon in his eyes and the scorpio vibe... and on top mars-venus conjunction.. I am also annoyed!!! LOL

to my eyes, people with combination of opposing attracting planets are very very magnetic as there is special that you cannot single out... the charming & graceful Venusian combined with the raw mars-pluto energy...

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted November 11, 2016 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Leo rising?

always under the spotlight, for the better or the worse

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Beautiful_Light
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posted May 24, 2017 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I strongly agree with pluto in the 1st, especially when it's closely conj the asc. Venus mars hard aspects. I'm surprised no one has mentioned pluto sun aspects, I think the conjunction and square between sun and pluto are some of the strongest indicaters for charisma and magnetism. With pluto in the 1st without strong aspects to personal planets, I've noticed the inner intensity and charisma isn't really there, it's just something they are able to project sometimes without even knowing and it draws people to them. But with strong pluto aspects to the sun and/or venus that plutoniam energy runs deep and they can be genuinely charasmatic people, attracting others around them like moths to a flame.

I completely agree! There's something about Pluto, Venus and Mars. I met an intensely sexy guy while travelling. He has the Grand Trine . This might be a bit much through as he manifests the shadow side by being a complete sex addict and is somewhat full of himself, as a former model.

Yup I know an actor with Sun exactly conj Pluto (Girlwitharainysoul likes another one too ). He has a 13 degree separation between Venus and Mars which creates the trine in the 9th harmonic (I have this as well). Very sexy man: he is one of the top stars in Asia.

VENUS Trine PLUTO: one of the sexiest aspects. When I search up celebrities with it, I'm blown away! Greatest proportion of sexy/charismatic/magnetic people compared to other aspects I look at.

Also, Aries Mars women are hot!! Ie. Angelina Jolie, Aishwarya Rai, Tyra Banks...🔥🔥 I wonder if this has to do with the male/female dynamic as these are women with a strong Mars placement. I haven't found the male equivalent yet!

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Beautiful_Light
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posted May 24, 2017 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nordicsoul:

to my eyes, people with combination of opposing attracting planets are very very magnetic as there is special that you cannot single out... the charming & graceful Venusian combined with the raw mars-pluto energy...


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posted May 24, 2017 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
always under the spotlight, for the better or the worse

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Beautiful_Light
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posted May 24, 2017 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dazzled:
Wow, it's amazing how there are so many magnetic people in LL, maybe it's this pull that attracts me to this site.


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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted May 25, 2017 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:

Yup I know an actor with Sun exactly conj Pluto (Girlwitharainysoul likes another one too ). He has a 13 degree separation between Venus and Mars which creates the trine in the 9th harmonic (I have this as well). Very sexy man: he is one of the top stars in Asia.

wow very interesting I've always wanted to ask you about the 9th harmonic chart since you said you were into vedic

what are your thoughts on venus opposite mars in the 9th harmonic?!

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted May 25, 2017 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:

VENUS Trine PLUTO: one of the sexiest aspects. When I search up celebrities with it, I'm blown away! Greatest proportion of sexy/charismatic/magnetic people compared to other aspects I look at.

is that so?!

I can't remember now if I've ever known someone with this aspect

but I had an exact trine in synastry with someone, it's HARD getting over them...phew

I don't recommend having this with someone unless you're sure you'll marry them


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posted May 25, 2017 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MyVirgoMask:
Sun conjunct Jupiter in natal seems to really also draw people in, I've noticed.
Most Jupiter conjunct Sun people I've met seems to exude this thing that makes people hang on their every word. And it makes the person extremely likable. It's easy put them on a pedestal I think.

What about the trine?

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