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Topic: Neptune's Life lessons
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GemGemGem Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 28, 2009 10:46 PM
I understand the lessons transiting Saturn and Uranus have to teach as they aspect our personal planets. But I'm still very confused as to what Neptune is supposed to teach us.It's the planet that puts rose colored glasses on you and makes you more susceptible to being deceived as it transits and aspects your personal planets. Then when it's over, I think hopefully clarity comes back. So what is it supposed to teach you exactly. Not to be so unrealistic and subject to duped, when it's the one that made us vulnerable in the first place? What is Neptune's purpose in our higher learning? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 28, 2009 11:22 PM
Neptune is mainly dissolution. The dissolution of boundaries which leads to ultrasensitivity,empathy,imagination,and intuition. It is said to be involved with feeling oneness with things, and so is connected to the mysticalThe positive way to use Neptune is inspiration,compassion,selfless service,healing The negative way to use Neptune is being drunk,using drugs,deception,confusion it really depends on what a person chooses to do with the Neptune energy
Neptune energy is very strong in me Moon in Pisces Moon square Neptune Mercury parallel Neptune Venus parallel Neptune Mars square Neptune Jupiter conjunct Neptune Saturn oppose/contraparallel Neptune Uranus semisquare Neptune Neptune sextile Pluto Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint Sun conjunct Neptune/Pluto midpoint in Right Ascension Moon oppose Neptune/Midheaven midpoint in Right Ascension
so I am always getting Neptune's life lessons. I choose to swim and not to sink. I believe that it fits with my neurodivergence(Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD) in regards to my ultrasensitivity,my rightbrained strengths which interferes with my leftbrained functioning,being rightbrained in a leftbrained society. Of course, being so hard to pin down that I get misunderstood by a lot of neurotypicals (normal neurological processing)which include misdiagnoses.
right now, transiting Neptune is conjuncting my Mars and paralleling my Sun. In Right Ascension,transiting Neptune is squaring my Neptune.
I am getting more and more into a spiritual path. I see a shaman weekly for healing,and I go to Spiritual Life Center every Wednesday and Sunday. I am also getting more into the healing arts including going to Essential Oils meetups. Neptune's transits can manifest in all kinds of ways that fit with the Neptune symbolism.
Raymond
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Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 36 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 29, 2009 11:00 AM
I've had TNeptune opposite my Sun for the longest time, and I haven't yet learned how to use the energy in a constructive way.IP: Logged |
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posted March 29, 2009 11:21 AM
LUCIA23, can you drop a hint, a few lines on how that tr.Neptune-Sun-opposition "feels", what you expereinced so far? Even if you are not sure how to "rate" that experience at the end, I'd find it very interesting to learn a bit about the actual effects this had, at least some spontaneous impressions. A response would be very appreciated! (Personally, I have a 1st-house-Neptune natally, it's conjunct my ASC, and I am still struggling to understand Neptune's input...)*edit: Did tr. Neptune opposing your Sun rather "weaken/confuse" you? As some books claim it would ...? or did you derive some sort of strength form that? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 29, 2009 12:44 PM
here is an article about Neptune's lessons Neptune: Spiritual Awakening Learn the lessons of the planet by Cortney Litwin
Neptune can be your greatest source of enlightenment or your greatest personal challenge. It all depends on how you respond to this mystical (and mystifying) planet. Neptune is your spiritual connection to your Higher Power, but it also rules drugs, escapism, denial and deception. How confounding! Let's delve into Neptune's watery depths to clarify the planet's role in our lives.
With its subtle, ethereal energy, Neptune bestows great empathy, psychic ability and the desire to merge with the Divine. Psychics, ministers, medical professionals, artists (and con artists) often have Neptune strongly placed in their charts. If you are in-sync with Neptune, you probably sense unseen forces around you. These forces may be spirits in the afterlife, negative vibes from someone you just met, or your relationship with your Higher Power. Additionally, compassion is probably one of your strongest values. At its most powerful, Neptune can send you to the heights of spiritual bliss - or artistic inspiration. That's right, Neptune is also the planet of divine inspiration. Great artists have Neptune prominent in their charts, which gives them the ability to "channel" spiritual energies from other dimensions for their work. This brings up something you may have wondered about - why do artists often suffer from chaotic personal lives and substance abuse? It's no coincidence that the planet of artistic inspiration also rules drugs, delusions and disillusionment. These Neptunian elements are often bound together with disastrous results (think Vincent van Gogh cutting off part of his ear and, finally, committing suicide). Neptune can make you exquisitely sensitive. As such, the desire to escape the challenges of everyday life can be a seductive temptation. Denial and a lack of boundaries is often part of the problem as well. Simply put, it's not easy living on the material plane with such an ethereal planet guiding your life. Still, Neptune offers tremendous gifts. One compelling example of someone with a strong Neptune is President Barack Obama. He has a Sun-Neptune affliction, actually. Since the Sun is a masculine influence, and Neptune dissolves boundaries, Obama's challenge growing up was establishing his identity as a man without having a father in his life. What's more, having a mixed racial heritage meant he had to find his racial identity as well. More recently, Neptune can be seen in his efforts to dissolve the boundaries that keep people apart, like striving for a bipartisan agreement for the stimulus package. Not an easy task, to be sure, but a worthy Neptune goal nonetheless. So how does one work with this illusive planet? The best way to handle Neptune is to embrace your spiritual life while staying grounded. Balance is the key. After all, most of us have to work and pay the bills. On the other hand, if you get too caught up in the material world, Neptune may come knocking on your door in the form of an illness or job lay-off to remind you that nothing is permanent - and to remind you to look inward for answers. Neptune may rule denial, but its energy won't be denied, either. Developing your spirituality through meditation and dream analysis can promote a healthy relationship with Neptune. You can also take some quiet time each day to strengthen the connection to your HIgher Power. Also, staying in touch with your feelings, facing problems head-on and limiting your substance intake (no surprise there!) will help with clarity. Neptune is also associated with therapy, another excellent tool for living a healthy life. Perhaps most importantly, Neptune helps us realize that we're all connected, and that the material plane is just a stepping stone on our spiritual path. http://www.californiapsychics.com/articles/Newsletter/3233/Neptune_Spiritual_Awaken ing.aspx I can relate to President Barack Obama in regards being son of white woman and black man, growing up without my biological father,and having to find my racial identity(choosing to identify as multiracial and reject the one drop rule). I feel that my multiracial ancestry and my neurodivergence are actually the main factors in my idealism,my belief that there should be unity and universal love. My progressed Sun was conjunct my natal Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd at the time of my maternal grandfather's suicide that was a spiritual catalyst for me and got me into New Age,started believing in reincarnation,believed in God again but in pantheistic way,metaphysical stuff,Astrology Raymond
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Scorp31 Knowflake Posts: 15 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 29, 2009 02:26 PM
Glaucus-that was great article.Neptune is part of a stellium in my 2nd house in Scorpio (Sun, Mercury & Neptune). Aspects to Neptune in my chart: Neptune sextile Pluto orb +1°29' Uranus sextile Neptune orb +1°00' Mercury conjunction Neptune orb +8°08' Neptune semi-square Ascendant orb -0°14' Neptune semi-square Midheaven orb -0°57' Mars semi-sextile Neptune orb +0°17' I am very sensitive to negative vibes more often than not I try to counter those feelings by projecting a positive vibe and getting to the root cause of the negative energy that I am sensing. I have also embraced astrology more so in the past year, as a away to lay a foundation to higher sense of self and others that I interact with. I do wonder though if Neptune’s lessons are meant to be realized in the later years of our lives as we gain more sense of self and life experience/lessons? This could perhaps explain why some have yet to see Neptune’s meaning. Just my thoughts on the topic. ------------------ ------------------ Sun: Scorpio Moon: Capricorn Ascendant: Libra
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GemGemGem Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 01, 2009 10:38 AM
If I may ask...How does one gain clarity during a Neptune transit. How do you know what you're feeling, and experiencing is "real", or if it's just the Neptune influences? Neptune is going to transit through my 7th house for the next 12 years! Aiyyaaaa! Can anyone give any advice for keeping grounded, and clear during this transit, so I don't end up with someone thinking he's the perfect man, meanwhile he's really some con artist or even worse.... IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 01, 2009 10:44 AM
Transiting Neptune in 7th could be inspirational,spiritually oriented,compassionate partners,relationships. Meeting partners through inspirational,spiritual,compassionate activities. I think that's a good way to use that energy.the main thing about Neptune is that it's an outerplanet, and so it's metaphysically oriented and transpersonal. It's more about the collective,and so not focus on personal things. in the 7th house, the focus on others. Robert Hand says that Neptune has an ego denying effect.
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 01, 2009 11:52 AM
Maybe lessons about sacrifice and self-sacrifice too. I'd pay attention to dreams, maybe keep a dream journal. IP: Logged |
amowls Knowflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 01, 2009 12:38 PM
Neptune seems to be all about letting go. Let go of your ambition, your material wants and needs and just enjoy the beauty of feeling.It's kind of hard to explain =/ IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 01, 2009 01:01 PM
Good call, Amowls. When Neptune was squaring my Venus and Mars in transit, I was all about the love. Highly romantic, maybe even delusional, but it didn't seem to faze me much because it seemed like a transcendental experience and my heart felt like it was opening in a way I'd never experienced before. IP: Logged |
Love Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 01, 2009 01:30 PM
GemGemGem ~I have Neptune in the 7th natally, so I have definitely experienced the effects of this although for me it's like a permanent transit. My experience of it has been falling in love with men who have Neptune conjunct their Ascendants (and one with a Pisces Ascendant). I often projected on to them who I wished they would be and they, in turn, tried to become that person for me. Very much an illusion vs. reality experience. I think the best way to move through a transit like this one is to be clear on what your 'other' values are: What are you looking for in a partner? What are your deal-breakers? And most importantly, know who you are. Also, use Neptune energy to become more in touch with your intuition which will help you to determine if someone is truly right for you or if you are projecting on to them. Neptune in the 7th can bring a spiritual partner into your life but, as I believe Glaucus mentioned, it depends on how you use the energy. IP: Logged |
GemGemGem Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 02, 2009 11:46 AM
Thanks everyone for the wonderful advice. I have just been through a ton of Saturn transits the past few years, teaching me discipline, and the importance of being grounded and solid in the practical and tangible. It has made me look at life more seriously, and has geared my focus towards creating some stability, something I haven't had for a long time. Then here comes Neptune....trying to show me about the mystical, and intangible in this world, and teach me to trust my feelings and intuition??? Talk about a 180 turn! Thank you Glaucus, for putting my mind at ease about Neptune in the 7th House. I keep reading things like "You will get involved with a con artist, or fraud who will lie and deceive you..." etc, etc.. And all the information out there about self deceit as well. This scares me quite a bit as I am really naive and can be stupid enough as it is without all these Neptune transits.. (my natal moon is in tight opposition to my natal Neptune) MVM, I do keep a dream dictionary, but have never really used it to gain any insight. Do you find that your dreams predict, or have the ability to tell you something? Amowls, "the beauty of feeling" what's that? Honestly speaking, other than the obvious feelings of sadness, anger, loneliness, laughter, etc...I don't really know how to sit there and just "feel". I don't know if that's attributed to having absolutely no water in my chart, or it stems from all my Saturn, that I don't trust in things that are not solid, and tangible. To me, feelings are fleeting, ethereal things that can change at any moment. I don't trust them. I do believe in intuition though, but I have trouble discerning whether the intuition is based on reality, or just paranoia. How do you just sit there and "feel". It's an alien concept to me. LOL! Love, thank you for putting Neptune transits and energies in "Saturn" terms for me, so I can understand it better! LOL! You make a great point, as to how Saturn and Neptune can be used together, so that I can enjoy romance, and the wonderful qualities of Neptune, but keep grounded using Saturns principles and holding onto my values as a "touch base" point, so I don't get carried off into Neverland. I just want to make sure I can keep my feet on the ground during this transit and not get manipulated, or deceived, whether by myself or some other person. Thanks everyone!
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 02, 2009 04:18 PM
Actually I know someone that has transit Neptune in her 7th house, and she's been having problems with idealizing relationships. I guess that the positive effect of tNeptune in our 7th house is that it can give us a very spiritual view about our relationships, yet the negative effect is that we might idealize things too much sometimes. So maybe Neptune is there to teach us to distinguish between idealization/illusions and reality, while not forgetting about our dreams and hopes. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 02, 2009 04:36 PM
I have Neptune in my 7th in my natal, and it ain't no picnic. I'm not deceived so much as I just give of myself to the point of self-sacrifice. It's very, very easy for me to do in relationships almost to the loss of self. It's something I am working on. But I do believe Neptune in the 7th is capable of very deep love, and attunement to the other. As long we keep our eyes open, it's ok. My ex-husband was a Pisces rising, so I do think the 7th house describes something about the partner. My ex had Pluto in his 7th, I have Pluto on my DC and Venus Scorpio. I think it makes sense. GemGem - I live in the dreamworld lol. I don't write down my dreams so often anymore, but when they really stand out, I do. But I think it's important to get your dreams to 'trust' you, and give the message that you are paying attention. Most of my best life changes had to do with literally following my dreams. They do predict, but they also tell you what to do. You can separate the very meaningful ones from the regular ones after you start trusting your dreams. I never do dream dictionaries, they just don't work for me. But I have predicted a lot through my dreams, and they're like a soul barometer I feel. They're on our side, always giving messages, but we don't always pay attention. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 36 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 03, 2009 12:43 AM
Alvarella, the way I felt the Neptune transit was not so much that I was weakened/confused, but that my normally 100% accurate intuition suddenly started being wrong.TNeptune was in my 2nd, opp my natal 8th house Sun. For the first time, I was attracted to someone who did not return my feelings. I mean, and I REALLY thought we would be together. I genuinely believed that, like some unattractive, mentally ill, deluded stalker. In the past, whenever I had the sense I would connect with someone that way, we did. Other weird stuff happened in terms of how I perceived how other people perceived me too...really strange, hard-to-read stuff. I definitely went through a lot artistic inspiration (which is usual for me, though) and spiritual opening/merging with the universe (which is not.) IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna Knowflake Posts: 7 From: The Asylum, NC Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 03, 2009 01:07 AM
Neptune's life lessons are my life lessons (pisces NN). Its definitely about dissolving boundaries and recognizing the Oneness of all. Might be quite a difficult task for an independant virgo mooner/gemini venus like myself who has define herself as an individual by what would be considered irrelevant by neptune. The only major neptune transit I can remember though is the soft one that trined my venus; definitely had unrealistic romantic hopes back then ( I was a teenager though so go figure). IP: Logged |
Frostbite Knowflake Posts: 1 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 03, 2009 01:30 PM
I hate my neptune! It's on my MC square moon in 1H and I'm wasting my life away in daydreams.Last couple of years it has conjuncted my sun and venus, now it,s conjunct sun/moon midpoint while jupiter is on top of my sun. And I feel jupiters luck is wasted because I can't snap myself out of this fog. I'm so mad at myself! If neptune has some lesson for me so tell me...I have no clue. IP: Logged |
cristiname Knowflake Posts: 11 From: Earth. Welcome! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 03, 2009 01:43 PM
that's great! I have no clue either!I'm having Neptune conj my Asc; I feel so lost, so weak, so hopeless; the little ambition I had is gone. even my body is frail; and so is my will; my life energy. And I can't help feeling that this is going to ruin everything for me; this is a very imp year, I need to 'prove myself' in ways that will have a lot of weight on my future career and life! I'm finaly doing something I'm good at and finaly doing something that fits with my natal Neptune conj MC - and all of a sudden I can't do it anymore. I;m tired all the time. Confused. Weak. And all my work for the past 3 years will go down the drain. And why? what's the gain? I was already ashamed of how much money I made while others starve. How will it serve anyone if I starve too? Ambition is quite useful cos even spiritiual things or helping others requires some. I honestly don't see beyond the worst timing for this. IP: Logged |
Frostbite Knowflake Posts: 1 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 03, 2009 02:32 PM
Wow cristiname, I feel so tired too! Just sitting at home watching walls for months now. No power or courage to do anything.You have the same conjunct to MC in natal that I have...atleast you have a career your interested, I'm so lost at that area too IP: Logged |
Plutonian Persona Knowflake Posts: 37 From: Denver, CO, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 03, 2009 08:13 PM
DOWN WITH NEPTUNE! DOWN WITH NEPTUNE! DOWN WITH NEPTUNE! IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 03, 2009 08:43 PM
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posted April 03, 2009 09:11 PM
*hugs* to cristinameIP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 03, 2009 09:40 PM
Yeah, I have heard that Neptune tends to 'drain' energy in some way. I always feel so damn drained in relationships sometimes when it kicks in. Ugh. IP: Logged |
Plutonian Persona Knowflake Posts: 37 From: Denver, CO, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 04, 2009 12:16 PM
MVM, drained is a good word to describe how I'm feeling right now.Maybe a lesson for Neptune could be how to live your dream without draining those around you. IP: Logged | |