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The Birth Charts of Indigo Children
By Mary English DSH


AS A HOMEOPATH AND ASTROLOGER I see a lot of Indigo Children that are brought to me, not because they are Indigo, but because of physical or behavioural problems. Since most of the parents I meet have not heard of Indigo Children I will describe the generally accepted principles for identifying Indigos, as well as how to recognize and identify them from their Birth charts.

The first Indigo that I met in my practice, was a nine-year-old boy who came to see me in 2002. His Mum brought him along, partly because she was having difficulty with the various labels her child had been given, but also because he was suffering from sleeplessness, was argumentative, aggressive and 'angry with the world'. On further questioning it transpired that a younger brother had been born blind with part of his brain missing. He also had terrible acid reflux and was awake for 20 hours in every 24. Sadly, this little boy didn't live long and eventually died. My patient, though, had shown a natural affinity for his suffering and used to touch his head before communicating with his brother, even though no-one had told him to do this. His mother said her nine-year old had had an 'understanding' of his brother’s needs.

Without revealing too many details of this boy’s case, I prescribed a remedy and arranged to see him again in a month’s time. I met the boy’s mother a while later at the school and she told me how, a few days after taking the remedy, he had been at his grandmother’s and had fallen asleep on the sofa. Because he was so quiet and seemed so ‘dead to the world’, Nan had got worried that he'd actually died... Apparently, he had never done anything like this before, but I knew this meant the remedy was starting to heal him.

As this boy had been brought to me for Homeopathic treatment, I didn't automatically draw up his Birthchart, but after his second follow-up appointment something made me ask his birth-time and I looked at his chart. During this particular month, I visited a Healing Fair in Bath where I live and was drawn to buy a book called The Indigo Children by Lee Carroll and Jan Tober. The book came home with me, and stayed there. I now don't lend it out, I advise people to buy their own copy!

The book described so accurately this particular boy and his problems, that I then bought The Care and Feeding of Indigo Children by Doreen Virtue, so I could offer his Mum some hope and explain that this boy isn't a challenge, the system looking after him is... Then I compared his chart to others in my collection and noticed a striking similarity with certain children's charts I had treated recently and some I had treated quite a few years before. Then another boy from the first boy's class was brought to me and his chart had the same configuration, as did my son's, who is also in the same class. In fact, over ten children in this grade all had similar charts. This set me on a mission that still intrigues me to this day.

Now things were beginning to make some sense, and, not being an Indigo myself, I found it exciting to be able to offer some hope to ADD and ADHD children, as well as those with the characteristics that Doreen Virtue had identified as being:

* Strong-willed
* Born in 1978 or later
* Headstrong
* Creative, with an artistic flair for music, jewellery making, poetry etc.
* Prone to addictions
* An 'old soul', as if they're 13 going on 43
* Intuitive or psychic, possibly with a history of seeing angels or deceased people
* An isolationist, either through aggressive acting-out, or through fragile introversion
* Independent and proud, even if they're constantly asking for money
* Possesses a deep desire to help the world in a big way
* Wavers between low self-esteem and grandiosity
* Bores easily
* Has probably been diagnosed as having ADD or ADHD
* Prone to insomnia, restless sleep, nightmares, or difficulty/fear of falling asleep
* Has a history of depression, or even suicidal thoughts or attempts
* Looks for real, deep and lasting friendships
* Easily bonds with plants or animals

I then contacted Sarah Wood, the President of The Indigo Network* to see if this was just a local phenomena or whether it was worldwide? Sarah advised me to post my questions on her website so that people could reply to me. They have been sending me their Birth-data for over a year now and I was not surprised to see that every person who knew they were an Indigo, had this same planetary shape to their chart.

So what planetary patterns were happening while these Indigos were being born?

I took my computer on a lengthy journey from 1977-1998 and discovered the following.

In September 1977 the major planets had moved into the following signs:

First indigo date

* Nep-13 degrees Sag,
* Uranus-9 degrees Scorpio
* Pluto-14 degrees Libra
* Sun-21 degrees Virgo
* Saturn-24 degrees Leo
* Jupiter-3 degrees Cancer

As you will notice, all the signs follow each other. This was when the first Indigos began to be born. These are the early Indigos and the heavy planets are close, but in separate signs. By 1981 the first conjunction occurs, with Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter in Libra. By 1983 Jupiter has caught up with Uranus in Sagittarius. In 1989 Uranus, Saturn and Neptune are all in the signs of Capricorn.

Now - what if you were born at this time and all your personal planets were in these same signs? What would make you different (or the same) as others?

First of all, you would be very focused in certain areas. You'd know how to operate the Playstation, but you might have problems tying your shoelaces or remembering to wipe your feet... Your chart shape would be called a 'Bundle', or a 'Bowl', and you would have interests that would definitely need to be expressed otherwise problems would occur.

In my practice I have noticed that Indigo Children have birth charts that are rather unique. All their planets are located on one side of the chart, i.e. six houses or less (out of twelve) are occupied and six (or more) are empty, meaning that their energies are strong in certain areas, and non-existent in others.

In 'The Bowl' shape, all the planets are concentrated within one half of the chart. Reflecting the shape of this pattern, 'Bowl' types are said to be immensely self-contained and resourceful, but they also tend to be 'one-sided', so their life's challenge is to integrate the empty half of the chart.

The 'Bundle' shape is rare, and reflects a narrowness of vision and experience. 'Bundle' types tend to channel their energies into issues related to the occupied section at the expense of the rest of their chart. This shape describes the specialist in his or her field, or, negatively, the obsessive personality. And because a 'Bundle' chart has no oppositions, the person whose chart it is, will have more difficulty seeing things from others’ perspectives, unless those 'other's’ are fellow Indigos.

A 'Bundle', or 'Cluster',' is not an especially rare shape; 30% of my clients have this configuration. What is rare, however, is having Neptune and Uranus conjunct (in the same sign). This only ever happens in the sign of Capricorn and last happened in 1827 (before that in 1657) and will next occur in 2157.

From 1978-1989 the bundle of planets stayed together, various outer planets moved a little and at certain times of each year, personal planets clustered with the biggies.

So, what does a cluster feel like? What does it look like from the outside? And what do cluster charts have that Splays or Grand Trines do not?

From my observations, clusters have an intensity as well as a complete and natural understanding of their peer group and their generation. We all know what it feels like to be out on a limb and not recognised by others. The child born at the wrong time, in the wrong place, and the wrong era really. Well, Indigos don't suffer that. They were born in exactly the right year/month/day location. We all choose our parents in the planning stage before we were born (see Judy Hall's Hands Across Time), and maybe Indigos are a little more astute at doing this.

Indigos understand fashion, latest gadgets, popular music, popular TV soaps/programmes. They know what is 'cool' and what is not. Why? Because their outer planets are all together with their personal planets. They're not usually interested in history or old out-dated ideas. (God forbid that they should like folk music!)

Now let’s look at some charts of Indigos that I have treated. To accurately display the full implications of an Indigo Chart, you need to use Equal-House System.

Male, Born Oct 26, 1993, 3.15am, Bath, UK.

Here we have the typical one-sided chart. All the planets are below the horizon, indicating someone who understands themselves well, but isn't so good at socialising and mixing with others. Take Chiron out of the picture for the minute, because for this analysis I won't be using him to determine if the child is Indigo. (however it's useful to keep Chiron in mind as the point of healing) All the planets are in five houses. Neptune and Uranus are conjunct in Capricorn, and there are no oppositions.

Because all the planets in an Indigo Chart are so near together, you have to look to see which planet is nearest the Sun, as this will be the one that has the most influence. In this chart, Jupiter is on one side of the Sun and Mars is on the other, making a child who is expansive on one hand, and a little fearless/aggressive on the other... but he has Moon in Pisces, which makes him emotional, empathetic and sensitive. Plus, he's a Scorpio, so don't try telling him what to do. What a combination! This child also has two planets in the 4th house, making him unsettled at home and dreamy. Because Mars is so near the Sun this child would do best at physical, active, sporty pursuits, rather than at totally desk-bound activities. And, with Venus on the Ascendant, he has charm!

Female, 10th December 1985, 5.30pm , Dublin, Ireland.

Next we have the chart of a young lady who contacted me via the Indigo website. As you can see she, too, is very clustered with all her planets squashed into three houses with only Jupiter on his own.

Female, 5th Feb 1997 , 8.02 pm, London

This child was brought to me with eczema and her mother had a whole host of problems when we started treatment. As you can see , she has seven planets in the 5th house, Mars on the Ascendant, Saturn in the 7th and Pluto in the 3rd. This young lady needed to be guided, not instructed. In fact, even when she was in nursery school, she was telling the other kids what to do!

Male, 23rd March 1998, 7.39am, Kent

This young lad was born on 23rd March, 1998 in Maidstone Kent at 7:39am. His mother told me: "Recently I went to see a spiritualist as I was fed up with school accusing him of having ADHD and suggesting Ritalin use. The lady said G was an Indigo child, looked after by my father his own angel who died 2 years ago." This boy has all his planets above the horizon, with Uranus conjunct Neptune and, again, Mars and Jupiter positioned either side of his Sun.

So, if you possess the twelve characteristics that Doreen Virtue lists and a Bundle or Cluster chart, then in my humble opinion, you are an Indigo.

Now, what makes living with/teaching /parenting an Indigo difficult is their concentration of energies in one place. So my advice is, provide them with an outlet for them. Look at Flower Essences or Homeopathy. Let them take exercise, eat well, play, mix with friends, write poetry, play music, create. To get the best from a child with a cluster chart shape, allow them autonomy. They're wiser than you anyway, so you might as well let them make some decisions themselves. Allow them to choose certain actions in their lives and to be guided by their own feelings. After all, none of these children that were brought to me ever suffered from a lack of self-esteem. On the contrary, it's generally been the other way around, with them being almost too confident and too self-assured.
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I believe that Indigo and Crystal are labels for neurodivergence.

Neurodivergence just means different way of thinking,thinking outside the box, a different frame of mind. atypical neurological processing.
It's a term that was first used by Autistic,Aspergers people to describe themselves as people that are just different type of thinkers,and so they don't see themselves a deficient that they they need to be fixed in some way. Then it later on got extended to Dyslexics,Dyspraxics,ADHD,Tourette Syndrome.
It has to do with the neurodiversity movement which I strongly support. It has to do with the belief of civil/equal rights for people who don't fit inside the box that include things like equal treatment and protesting against things that try to put us in a mental straightjacket like medications.
the term, "neurodivergent" is a liberal and practical word to use. Some would say that it's a politically correct word to use. It's better than using words like "stupid","idiot","crazy","retarded",and other negative labels that we're usually given by people that aren't like us. It's not a word that means defective. It's not a word that has any metaphysical connotations either. There is no need for it. Many people that don't fit the relative neurological norms are metaphysically oriented,and some aren't. There have been people like us existing in ancient times. We're not something recent. I am 37 yr old(born October 29, 1971) neurodivergent and come from a family of neurodivergents on both my mother and father sides of my family. I think that there is some misunderstanding about the use of the word. When we neurodivergents use the word,"neurodivergent", we use that as word to say "hey..there is nothing wrong with us...we're not some mental defects...different doesn't mean deficient" However,both conventional and alternative health practitioners tend to have that view. We even have our own strengths that help us compensate for our weaknesses which are actually connected to our strengths. Neurodivergence has to do with strong right hemisphere processing that tends to intefere with left hemisphere processing.

Because of my own neurodivergence of Dyslexia and Dyspraxia which was treated with special education therapies(auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics,motor skills therapy), I have always wondered what
can be astrological indicators for neurodivergence. I have never felt satisfied with anything that I read.
Since the discovery of the kuiper belt objects(aka transneptunian objects) which were previously unknown for a long time, I have been wondering how much they figure into neurodivergence which has been unknown for a long time too. Neurodivergent conditions are so hard to pin down that they are misunderstood. You could even say that they
are hidden handicaps. Autism was once thought to be a childhood schizophrenia. Even now, many autistics are being treated with antipsychotics like Risperdal. Some of my fellow Dyspraxics in the UK
even told me that many neurodivergents in the UK have been misdiagnosed schizophrenic or bipolar. I have read a story about an autistic woman that has been given diagnoses of bipolar and
schizophrenia in the past. Also in the DSM-IV-TR, the soft neurological signs of schizophrenia are also symptoms of neurodivergence like poor coordination,left-right confusion,disorganization,and speech disturbances. The nonlinear
thought processes of neurodivergents have been mistakened for psychotic thinking. Even psychiatrist,neurologist,author of numerous
books on cerebellar-vestibular related Dyslexia Syndrome,Dr. Harold N. Levinson points out the need to distinguish neurodivergent speech from psychotic speech.

As you see, neurodivergent conditions are
so misunderstood,hard to pin down,and are often highly unknown to the common folk. Autism is one of the most complicated,misunderstood conditions. Like I have said before,it was once thought to be a type of schizophrenia. The high intelligence of many nonverbal autistics have been wrongly
examined with verbal intelligence tests when they should be given visual spatial intelligence tests which they are found to do much better on than verbal tests to the point that there can be up to 30 point increase. There are autistics that are even highly educated
like Dr. Temple Grandin who got early intervention in the form of speech therapy to help her communicate in words. She wrote a book called "Thinking In Pictures" which describes her thought processes
of her autism and how she is an extremely visual thinker that her thoughts are like movies.

All the planets beyond Saturn are referred to as outerplanets, and so they are related to metaphysical energies. Uranus is the planet of liberation from boundaries as it breaks way with its need for
independence,and it is associated with innovation and intuitive flashes. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism.

Kuiper Belt Objects orbit beyond Neptune, and so they are transneptunians. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries, the kuiper belt objects go beyond the boundaries into the unknown. These energies could be so metaphysical that they can manifest as problems on the physical plane,and that could manifest as neurodivergence which is often viewed as disorder by society but has its strengths. The kuiper belt objects have highly eccentric orbits and orbit off the ecliptic,and so they can be about being a nonconformist and not fitting in with the mainstream.

Many neurotypical(normal neurological processing) people focus on neurodivergence as a disorder,and so they would tend to focus on the hard aspects, but I don't see it as disorder but a different,neutral
way of thinking. That's how many of us neurodivergents see neurodivergence as being. That's why we believe in neurodiversity.
Therefore, I don't just look for hard aspects. I also looked at the soft aspects.


OUTER OBJECTS -
Neptune,Uranus,Kuiper Belt Objects involving Sun,Moon,Mercury,MC,Asc - nonroutine,nonlinear,metaphysically oriented)

NEPTUNE - imaginative,ultrasensitive,idealistic

URANUS -
unconventional,independent,innovative,
novelty-seeking

KUIPER BELT OBJECTS -
(Pluto,Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Ixion,Varuna)
ultrasensitivity,nonconformity,intensity,hyperfocus

I included outerplanet midpoint configurations involving Sun,Moon,Mercury,MC,Asc


I also included Right Ascension (Equatorial longitude coordinates that astronomers use to locate celestial objects) with the outerplanet and kuiper belt aspects. I didn't use Right Ascension with midpoints.
Right Ascension will be distinguished with RA


Outer Planet Aspect and Midpoint Interpretatations are from Ruth Brummond's Rulebook


Indigo 1

October 26, 1993
3:15 AM
Bath, UK

OUTER PLANET
Conjunction,Opposition,Square,Trine - 5'00
Sextile - 3'00
Semisquare,Sesquiquadrate,Quincunx,Semisextile,Quintile,Biquintile - 1'30

Mercury sextile Neptune - '42 in RA
Mercury parallel Neptune - '18
ME.NE.*
+ intuitive. highly perceptive. thinks in the abstract. has an active imagination. skilled at empathizing. has reliable hunches. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. highly imaginative. daydreams. imitative.
Secret thoughts. Obscure conversation. Private communications. Discussion of the unknown. Intuitively-aided communication. Opinions about the future. Thoughts of the immaterial. Motion in the water or air. Acting ability.
- self-deceiving. deluded. deceptive. unreliable. absent-minded. forgetful. prone to misjudge.
Unclear ideas. Deceit in a discussion. Disillusionment due to a conversation. Uncertainty or unreliability in connection with communications. Confusion. To be resigned to fate.

Mercury sextile Uranus - '52 in RA
ME.UR.*
+ has quick reactions. sharp-witted. quick at repartee. original. open to new ideas. inquisitive. mentally resourceful. ingenious. eager to learn. progressive. intelligent. thinks intuitively. takes initiative. stimulating. gifted with rhythm. mobile. handy. Technician. Accountant. Reformer.
Sudden idea. Surprising conversation. Exciting discussion. Talk of an event. Thoughts about an adventure. Discussion of impulses or stimuli. Technical news. Telegram. Revolutionary concept. Rhythmic motion.
- hasty. rash. unsettled. impatient. hurried. short tempered. nervous.
Upsets or arguments in or about a discussion. Nervousness.

Uranus quincunx MC - '42 in RA
Uranus contraparallel MC - '33
MC.UR.*
+ intuitive. progressive. sizes up situations quickly. original. inclined to the unusual. averse to mediocrity. wishes to be unique. adventurous. reformist. technically inclined. has rhythm. future oriented.
My adventure. Surprise for me. To be in anticipation. My premonition. An event. Occurrence for me. To get excited.
- impulsive. self willed. tense; stressed. restless. unstable. fidgety. off-balance; erratic. unpredictable. easily upset. aggressive.
To be exposed to great tension. Unrest.

Uranus trine Asc - 4'59
AS.UR.*
+ intuitive. original. self willed. quick witted. interested in the unusual. wants to be unique. unpredictable. future oriented. able to make needed contacts. gifted with rhythm. reformist. technically skilled.
Sudden acquaintance. Surprising partnership. Adventures with the partner.
- easily upset. agitated. hectic. unstable. restless. turbulent.
Tensions in the environment. Unrest due to others.


OUTER PLANET MIDPOINT
Conjunction,Opposition only
orb: 1'30

Mercury conjunct Uranus/Asc - 1'26
AS.ME.UR.
+ intuitive. responds quickly. sharp-witted. quick to respond. inquisitive. inventive. spontaneous. future-oriented. expert, mathematically inclined, skilled with technology, or skilled at implementing reforms.
Surprising or unexpected communication with the partner. Sudden exchange of ideas. Adventurous train of thought. News about events in the environment. To speak of events at the place.
-derisive. hasty. impatient. nervous. short-tempered; touchy. hurried.
Agitated talk about others. To speak of tensions with the partner. Arguments or disputes.

Mercury conjunct Neptune/Asc - 1'26
AS.ME.NE.
+ intuitive. highly imaginative. daydreams. thinks abstractly. quick to figure things out. empathic. tacit; discreet. private; drawn to obscurities. socially withdrawn. interested in metaphysical factors.
Talk about secrets in the environment. Discussion of others' losses. News about deceit at the location.
- deluded. secretive. unreliable. hypocritical; insincere. illusory. babbles. unclear; ambiguous. difficult to contact.
Confusing ideas of the partner. To refuse to communicate. Thoughts of dissolution of a partnership. Uncertainty or ambiguity in communications.

Uranus conjunct Moon/Mercury - '10
MO.ME.UR.
+ intuitive. quick to size up situations. mentally agile. mentally resourceful. convincing. persuasive. original. quick-witted. eccentric. speaks in agitated manner. skilled with technology. gifted with rhythm. progressive. capable at astrology.
Nervous youthful woman. Surprises in communication with a woman. Unexpected discussion. Sudden idea. To think of a woman's adventure. The stimulation of youth. To speak excitedly. Discussion of or during eventful hours. Excitment in connection with young people. The technology of vehicles.
- self-willed. easily upset. restless. unpredictable. nervous. hysterical. disruptive.
Nervousness. Cerebral apoplexy. Upsetting news among the public. News about public tensions.

Neptune conjunct Moon/Mercury - '10
MO.ME.NE.
+ intuitive. highly imaginative. daydreams. private; drawn to obscurities. hesitates. mediumistic. preoccupied with metaphysical issues. capable at psychology.
Discussion of a obscure woman. To think about a woman's secrecy. Invisible vehicle.
- deluded. secretive. evasive. deceptive. indecisive. easily swayed. indifferent. apathetic. unrealistic. unconscious.
To talk about confusion due to the wife. Disillusioned young woman. Youthful insecurity. Disappointing speech among the public. To speak of public losses. Weak brain-power. Unreliable vehicle.

Uranus conjunct Moon/Mars - 1'05
MO.MA.UR.
+ emotionally dynamic. strong-willed. resolute. determined. unhesitating. spontaneous. progressive. inclined to do unusual things. has quick reactions. instinctive. Handyman. Technician. Reformer. Athlete.
Surprising activities of the wife. To act unexpectedly. Adventurous woman in action. Surprise about or due to a woman at work. Eventful working hours. Quick reaction. Surprise about public work. Reform work among the public. Technical work of a nation.
- self-willed. tense. precipitate. rash. intolerant. impatient. lacking in self-control. prone to emotional outbursts. short-tempered. hot-tempered. disputatious. emotionally impulsive.
To be troubled over the unexpected. To contribute to tensions with the wife. To cause nervousness. Action due to inner tension. Accident or catastrophe among the public. Surgery on a woman.

Neptune conjunct Moon/Mars - 1'05
MO.MA.NE.
+ instinctive. private; drawn to obscurities. elusive. interested in metaphysical factors. nonchalant. future-oriented. Aquatic athlete.
Activities of a private woman. Work or activity in private. To deal with liquids. Work in the air. Future work among the public. To work with gaseous or liquid substances. The future of a working nation.
- secretive. evasive. careless. unrealistic. passive. gives up easily. indifferent. contrary. feels inferior. hypersensitive. moody. short-tempered.
Actions of a secretive woman. Covert action. Person lacking in energy. To feign emotions. To participate in deception. To reject work. Mistake. Loss of work. Inaccuracy in working hours. Danger of infection. Atrophy of the brain. Public mistake. To contribute to the uncertainty of a nation.

Mars conjunct Neptune/Asc - 1'04
AS.MA.NE.
+ instinctive. surrounds oneself in mystery. future-oriented. esoterically guided. capable as a swimmer.
Activities of or with others in private. Others' unconscious behavior. To work for a future or futuristic partnership. Sacrifices made at the locale. Location of aquatic sports. Activities in the air.
- lacking will-power. lacking energy. lacking in accomplishment. resistant to work. lacking self-reliance; dependent. lacking self-control; lax. apprehensive. prone to denial. sly. undermining. potentially destructive. addiction-prone.
Others' irrational behavior. Mutual mistake. Uncertainty in the workplace. Disillusionment about a work partnership. Dissolution of an active association. To be manipulated. To be deceived. To disappoint someone. Loss of work at a place. Infection.

Mars conjunct Uranus/Asc - 1'04
AS.MA.UR.
+ high-spirited. progressive. energetic. active. handy. strong-willed. works quickly. capricious. progressive. technically inclined.
Others' surprising actions. Event in cooperative work. Adventure with a partner. To suddenly initiate a partnership. Others get excited about work. To contribute to the renewal of a place. Progressive activities at the location.
- impulsive. precipitate. stressful. lacking in self-control. hot-tempered. restless. tense. ruthless. forceful; sometimes violent. rebellious. accident-prone.
Tension in a workteam. To contribute of stress in the environs. To create unrest. To be injured.

MC oppose Mercury/Uranus - 1'05
MC.ME.UR.
+ has quick reactions. quick-witted. spontaneous. instinctive. astute. original. technically or mathematically inclined. has rhythm. progressive. reformist. future-oriented.
To think of surprises. Surprising discussion. Unexpected communication. Spontaneous speech. Discussion of an event. My spontaneous ideas. To get excited. Telephone call.
- self-willed. impatient. restless. short-tempered. nervous. hasty. rash. disruptive.
Upsetting news. Nervousness.

MC oppose Mercury/Neptune - 1'05
MC.ME.NE.
+ intuitive. highly perceptive. thinks in the abstract. highly imaginative. inventive. mediumistic. progressive.
Communication about secrets or mysteries. Discussion of the subconscious. Talk about loss or sacrifice. To think of the future. Discussion of metaphysical issues.
- deceptive. forgetful. unreliable. vague.
Uncertainty in speech. Unclear thoughts. Deceitful communication. Hazy ideas. Self-deception. Absentmindedness.


KUIPER BELT OBJECTS Eris,Pluto,Makemake,Haumea (dwarf planets)
Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Ixion,Varuna (dwarf planet candidates)
Conjunction,Opposition,Trine,Square - 3'00
Sextile - 2'00
Semisquare,Sesquiquadrate,Quincunx,Semisextile,Quintile,Biquintile - 1'00


keywords by Philip Sedgwick http://www.philipsedgwick.com/


Sun trine Varuna - '36

Moon sextile Sedna - '20 in RA

Moon quincunx Orcus - '45 ('25 in RA)

Stationary Retrograde Mercury conjunct Pluto - 2'01

Pluto sextile Asc - '58

Makemake conjunct Asc - '23 in RA
Makemake square MC - 2'48 in RA

Ixion sextile Asc - 1'29 in RA


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Indigo 2

OUTER PLANET

Sun conjunct Uranus - '23
Sun parallel Uranus - '01
SU.UR.*
+ intuitive. progressive. alert. animated. quick to comprehend. high-spirited. original. rhythmically gifted. technically skilled. reformist.
Stimulation due to a man. Humanitarian stimulus. Adventurous man. Event. Surprises. Exciting day. Years of reforms.
- impulsive. tense. self-willed. stressed. unstable. restless. unpredictable. nervous.
Stressful lifestyle. Physical tension or stress. Heart attack. Stroke.

Moon parallel Uranus - '55
MO.UR.*
+ intuitive. alert. readily aroused. quick to catch on. inclined to the unusual. spontaneous. original. unpredictable. progressive. has rhythm. technically inclined.
Event of or with a woman. To be stimulated. Eventful hours. To awaken.
- temperamental. self-willed. easily upset. impatient. irritable. unsettled. nervous. revolutionary.
Psychological tensions. Impulses of a woman. Cerebral apoplexy. Public unrest. Excited or agitated nation.

Sun parallel Neptune - '36
SU.NE.*
+ intuitive. sensitive. empathic. quick to figure things out. highly imaginative. daydreams. mediumistic. private; drawn to obscurities. future-oriented. delicate. interested in metaphysical factors.
Secretive person. Obscure man. The future of humanity. Physical fluidity. Gas balloon. Etheric source of vitality. Inspired man. Actor. Sailor.
- touchy. deluded. easily swayed. secretive. elusive. dishonest. deceitful. has a poor sense of direction. unrealistic. vulnerable. feeble. frail. dissatisfied. self-deluding.
Inner uncertainty; Instability. Lack of clarity. Deceit. Sacrifice. Unexciting circumstances. Physical weakness or vulnerability. The non-material aspects of a body or object. Disappointing day. Years of uncertainty. Loss or rejection of the husband.

Moon parallel Neptune - '17
MO.NE.*
+ empathic . intuitive. sensitive. tender. future-oriented. highly imaginative or visionary. private; drawn to obscurities. opaque. sensitive to the weather. interested in metaphysical factors. Actress.
Private or obscure woman. Intuitive person. Keen instincts. Things or feelings out of the subconscious or unconscious. Dreamlike state or conditions. The future of the public. Sacrifices of the public or nation. Air. Water. Homeopathy.
- semiconscious or unconscious. touchy. easily swayed. disillusioned. unrealistic. needful of protection. secretive. ambiguous. unstable. unreliable. vulnerable. impersonal. prone to feelings of inferiority. prone to sleepwalk. allergy prone.
Secretive woman. Allergy proneness. Deceit, disillusionment, or disappointment in relation to the wife. Emotional uncertainty or insecurity. Weakness of a woman. Public deception. Losses of the public or a nation.

Neptune sextile MC - '56
MC.NE.*
+ intuitive. sensitive. empathic. highly imaginative. tender. mediumistic. daydreams. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. impersonal. objective.
To be prepared for the future. Personal sacrifice. The unknown or unrecognized. My sensitivity. Metaphysical factors and me.
- deluded. unstable. insecure.
overly delicate. easily swayed. elusive. unreliable. vulnerable. needful of protection. weak. prone to feelings of inferiority. unrealistic.
Inward confusion. Personal uncertainty or disillusionment. To refuse to accept something. To deny. To go astray. To be deluded. Deceit.
Personal loss.

Neptune contraparallel Asc - '44
AS.NE.*
+ sensitive. tender. empathic. intuitive. private; drawn to obscurities. mediumistic. interested in metaphysical factors. visionary. daydreams. elusive. imitative. socially withdrawn. future-oriented. progressive.
Casual contacts. Futuristic environment. In the air or water. Immaterial phenomena. The future of a place.
- touchy. secretive. deluded. uncertain. easily swayed. vulnerable. needful of protection. evasive. unrealistic. undependable. impersonal. self-disparaging.
Secretive partner. Ambiguity in the environment. Others' uncertainty. Unrecognized or unknown person. Lax relationships. Disillusionment due to a partner. Loss of partnership. Rejection of the partner. Others' weakness.

MIDPOINT

Sun conjunct Saturn/Neptune - '49
SU.SA.NE.
+ sensitive. empathic. deals with medical issues. cautious. skeptical. preoccupied with metaphysical factors or issues.
Dissolution of problems. Consideration of both material and non-material aspects of bodies or objects. Persistence of a devitalized person. Medical issues.
- devitalized. sickly. unstable. insecure. distrustful. negative in outlook. unimaginative. despondent. easily discouraged. ambiguous. unclear. insincere. underhanded. deceitful. false.
Disillusionment over the perseverance of a man. Denial of difficulties. Delays due to ambiguity. Sacrifices due to separation from a man. Continual uncertainty. Difficulties due to deceit. Physical illness. Unpleasant times. Days of contradictions. Years of medical problems. Instability in later years.

Moon conjunct Mars/Neptune - '02
MO.MA.NE.
+ sensitive. empathic. instinctive. private; drawn to obscurities. elusive. interested in metaphysical factors. nonchalant. future-oriented. Aquatic athlete.
Activities of a private woman. Work or activity in private. To deal with liquids. Work in the air. Future work among the public. To work with gaseous or liquid substances. The future of a working nation.
- secretive. evasive. careless. unrealistic. passive. gives up easily. indifferent. contrary. feels inferior. hypersensitive. moody. short-tempered.
Actions of a secretive woman. Covert action. Person lacking in energy. To feign emotions. To participate in deception. To reject work. Mistake. Loss of work. Inaccuracy in working hours. Danger of infection. Atrophy of the brain. Public mistake. To contribute to the uncertainty of a nation.

Mercury conjunct Mars/Neptune - '57
ME.MA.NE
+ intuitive. highly imaginative. resourceful. inventive. private. obscure. circumspect. future-oriented. works with metaphysical factors.
To put ideas into action intuitively. Talk of obscure activities. To enact progressive ideas. To proceed diplomatically. Preoccupied with nonmaterial themes. Pseudonyms.
- secretive. insincere. underhanded. shifty. deceitful. easily imposed upon. irresolute. hesitant. aimless. weak-willed. contrary.
To not keep promises. Words without action. Active business deceit. Discussion of mistakes. Deceiving course of a conversation. Plan without prospects. Deceitful intentions. Endless prattle. Weak brain functions.

Venus conjunct Moon/Uranus - '09
MO.VE.UR.
+ congenial. intuitive. makes contacts quickly. high-spirited. quick to catch on. drawn to the unusual. emotionally expressive. future-oriented. adventurous. capable at technical art. gifted with rhythm. has technical aptitude. innovative. Progressive artiste.
Sudden love of a woman. Unexpected attraction. Loving experience with the wife. Pleasant surprise. Pleasurable event. Surprising congeniality. Enjoyment of hours of excitement. Sudden peace or cooperation among the public. Dance. Art and technology among the public.
- self-willed in love. impulsive. agitated. discordant. easily upset. hysterical. presumptous. disruptive.
Tense or stressful circumstances in love.

Venus conjunct Mercury/Uranus - '20
ME.VE.UR.
+ mentally resourceful. quick-witted. witty. original. inventive. lively and rhythmic. skilled with mathematics or technology. future-oriented. communicates revolutionary concepts agreeably. interested in song, music, and dance. intuits artistic concepts. Composer.
Surprising acquaintance. Sudden encounter. Unexpected harmonious discussion. To speak of enjoyable experiences. Stimulating sharing of ideas. Thoughts of a surprising attraction. Pleasant surprising news. Surprise over artistic ideas. Dance.
- mentally erratic.
Discussion of tensions in love.

KUIPER BELT

Moon sesquiquadrate Eris - '09
Moon biquintile Eris - '22 in RA

Mercury sesquiquadrate Eris - 1'09 (9 minutes over)
Mercury biquintile Eris - '23 in RA

Eris semisquare MC - '33 in RA
Eris parallel MC - '40

Sedna sextile Asc - 1'27 ('57 in RA)

Pluto trine MC - 2'35

Pluto trine Asc - 1'16 in RA

Sun oppose Varuna - 2'25

Moon square Makemake - 1'22
Moon quintile Makemake - '02 in RA

Mercury square Makemake - 2'22
Mercury quintile Makemake - '03 in RA

Makemake oppose MC - 2'10

Sun contraparallel Haumea - '01

Haumea parallel Asc - '06

Orcus quincunx MC - '43


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Indigo 3


OUTER PLANET

Mercury conjunct Neptune - 2'58
ME.NE.*
+ intuitive. highly perceptive. thinks in the abstract. has an active imagination. skilled at empathizing. has reliable hunches. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. highly imaginative. daydreams. imitative.
Secret thoughts. Obscure conversation. Private communications. Discussion of the unknown. Intuitively-aided communication. Opinions about the future. Thoughts of the immaterial. Motion in the water or air. Acting ability.
- self-deceiving. deluded. deceptive. unreliable. absent-minded. forgetful. prone to misjudge.
Unclear ideas. Deceit in a discussion. Disillusionment due to a conversation. Uncertainty or unreliability in connection with communications. Confusion. To be resigned to fate.

Uranus sesquiquadrate Asc - '01
AS.UR.*
+ intuitive. original. self willed. quick witted. interested in the unusual. wants to be unique. unpredictable. future oriented. able to make needed contacts. gifted with rhythm. reformist. technically skilled.
Sudden acquaintance. Surprising partnership. Adventures with the partner.
- easily upset. agitated. hectic. unstable. restless. turbulent.
Tensions in the environment. Unrest due to others.

Neptune sesquiquadrate MC - 1'09 in RA
MC.NE.*
+ intuitive. sensitive. empathic. highly imaginative. tender. mediumistic. daydreams. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. impersonal. objective.
To be prepared for the future. Personal sacrifice. The unknown or unrecognized. My sensitivity. Metaphysical factors and me.
- deluded. unstable. insecure.
overly delicate. easily swayed. elusive. unreliable. vulnerable. needful of protection. weak. prone to feelings of inferiority. unrealistic.
Inward confusion. Personal uncertainty or disillusionment. To refuse to accept something. To deny. To go astray. To be deluded. Deceit.
Personal loss.


MIDPOINT

Neptune conjunct Moon/Jupiter - '34
MO.JU.NE.
+ intuitive. cheerful. carefree. playful. highly imaginative. visionary. sentimental. sensitive. empathic. future-oriented. enjoys speculating. motivated by non-material concerns. esoteric. private. obscure.
Future happiness of or with the wife. Apparent luck. Pleasant dream. Satisfaction due to sensitivity. Benefits due to esoteric perceptions. Carefree hours. Fortunate future of a nation.
- prone to gamble. emotionally biased. poor at handling money. irresponsible. wasteful. extravagant. easily swayed. unrealistic. secretive. unfair.
Uncertain financial circumstances. Speculation. Lost luck of or due to a woman. Failure among the public. Financial loss due to a woman or among the public. Injustice for people.

Neptune conjunct Moon/Uranus - '19
MO.UR.NE.
+ feels stimuli from the unconscious. intuitive. highly perceptive. sensitive. future-oriented. relaxing. resourceful. inventive. interested in the occult. mediumistic.
Relaxation of emotional tension. Impulses of an intuitive woman. Inspiration. Hour of relaxation of tension. Sudden suspense among the public. Dealings with obscure technology.
- reacts unconsciously. unpredictable. contrary. readily exhausted. indecisive. touchy.
Sudden uncertainty. Tensions in relation to a weak woman. Upset over deceit. Unexpected ambiguity. Surprising sensitivity. Pointless excitement or expectation. Stimulation or upset during sleep.

Neptune conjunct Moon/Venus - '41
MO.VE.NE.
+ intuitive. unselfish. altruistic. tactful. likes privacy. daydreams. sentimental. empathic. future-oriented. enraptured. playful. capable at acting. musically inclined.
Subtle love of the wife. Love of an intuitive woman. Sympathy or or for a delicate or sensitive person. In joyful expectation. Sacrifices of a loving woman. Futuristic hobbies. Enjoyment due to public uncertainty. Inspiring or futuristic art.
- touchy. easily swayed. easily imposed upon. frail. deluded. fanatical. effusive. unrealistic. moody. sometimes addiction-prone. inharmonious or uncongenial.
Concealment of affection of or for a woman. Uncertainty of affections. Disillusionment or disappointment in love. Loss of a beloved woman. Dissatisfaction among the public.

Neptune conjunct Mercury/Venus - 1'04
ME.VE.NE.
+ inspired. imaginative in speaking and writing. empathic. subtle. aesthetically conscious. daydreams. charmed. delighted. romantic. future-oriented. interested in non-concrete or abstract topics and themes.
Secret encounter. Romantic inclinations.
- fanatical. gushing. deluded. superficial. unrealistic. disloyal. unstable. inconstant.
Fleeting acquaintance. Fanaticism in love. Loves to spin yarns. Discussion of doubtful relationships. Inharmonious discussion. Fruitless hopes. Disappointing encounter.

Neptune conjunct Mercury/Jupiter - 1'12
ME.JU.NE
+ inspired. highly sensitive. highly imaginative. idyllic. future-oriented. playful. has acting ability.
Secret thoughts of prosperity. Just or fair ideas about the future. To arouse hope. Ideas about easily earned money. Discussion of injustice. Irrigation business. Commerce involving photography, cinema, beverages, aquatics, or aerial phenomena.
- cunning. deluded. unrealistic. thoughtless with money. often judges unfairly. fawning. crafty. sly.
To surrender to an illusion of wealth. Talk about financial losses. Increasing deceit in communications. Business losses.

Mercury conjunct Moon/Neptune - '17
MO.ME.NE.
+ intuitive. highly imaginative. daydreams. private; drawn to obscurities. hesitates. mediumistic. preoccupied with metaphysical issues. capable at psychology.
Discussion of a obscure woman. To think about a woman's secrecy. Invisible vehicle.
- deluded. secretive. evasive. deceptive. indecisive. easily swayed. indifferent. apathetic. unrealistic. unconscious.
To talk about confusion due to the wife. Disillusioned young woman. Youthful insecurity. Disappointing speech among the public. To speak of public losses. Weak brain-power. Unreliable vehicle.

Uranus conjunct Sun/Mercury - '47
SU.ME.UR.
+ has quick responses. astute. quick-witted. has a sharp intellect. highly perceptive. inquisitive. has initiative. original. inventive. high-spirited. hurried. progressive. reformist. technically inclined. skilled at math. gifted with rhythm. has dancing talent. has potential as an astrologer. future-oriented.
Rapid comprehension. To talk about an event with the husband. Adventurous ideas of a man. Surprising communication. Progressive thinking. Unexpected news. Telegram. Exciting communication on a given day. Years of spontaneous ideas.
- derisive. spasmodic. impulsive. rash. lacking in patience. unsettled. irritable. nervous. disruptive.
Revolt of youth. Disruptive thinking. Nervous man. Discussion of tension between men.

Uranus conjunct Sun/Moon - '59
SU.MO.UR.
+ enthusiastic. individualistic. intuits quickly. ingenious. unique. magnetic.
Interesting partnership. Mutual stimulation. Adventures with each other. To live an exciting life. Days or years with eventful hours. Surprise among the public about a person. One partner surprises the other.
- emotionally erratic. shocking. disruptive.
Tensions with each other. One partner upsets the other. Wanderlust undermines unity.

Uranus oppose Asc/MC - 1'26
MC.AS.UR.
+ intuitive. sizes up situations quickly. inclined to the unusual. original. unpredictable. gifted with rhythm. technically inclined. innovative. progressive.
Personal adventures with the partner. Professional event. Our adventure.
- self-willed. non-committal. temperamental. unsteady. unsettled. restless. agitated. rebellious.
Tensions in the environment due to me. To be involved in "creating a scene".

KUIPER BELT

Sun sextile Eris - '54

Moon square Eris - '05 in RA

Varuna parallel MC - '09

Sun quintile Quaoar - '19

Moon parallel Ixion - '03

Sedna parallel Asc - '54

Ixion quintile Asc - '20

Sun sextile Makemake - '54

Makemake sextile MC - '33

Mercury contraparallel Haumea - '08

Sun sesquiquadrate Varuna - '01 in RA

Quaoar quintile Asc - '51 in RA

Orcus sextile MC - '57 in RA

Mercury trine Makemake - '11 in RA

Haumea trine MC - 1'36 in RA


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Indigo 4

OUTER PLANET

Sun sextile Neptune - '47
SU.NE.*
+ intuitive. sensitive. empathic. quick to figure things out. highly imaginative. daydreams. mediumistic. private; drawn to obscurities. future-oriented. delicate. interested in metaphysical factors.
Secretive person. Obscure man. The future of humanity. Physical fluidity. Gas balloon. Etheric source of vitality. Inspired man. Actor. Sailor.
- touchy. deluded. easily swayed. secretive. elusive. dishonest. deceitful. has a poor sense of direction. unrealistic. vulnerable. feeble. frail. dissatisfied. self-deluding.
Inner uncertainty; Instability. Lack of clarity. Deceit. Sacrifice. Unexciting circumstances. Physical weakness or vulnerability. The non-material aspects of a body or object. Disappointing day. Years of uncertainty. Loss or rejection of the husband.

Moon conjunct Neptune - 4'44
MO.NE.*
+ empathic . intuitive. sensitive. tender. future-oriented. highly imaginative or visionary. private; drawn to obscurities. opaque. sensitive to the weather. interested in metaphysical factors. Actress.
Private or obscure woman. Intuitive person. Keen instincts. Things or feelings out of the subconscious or unconscious. Dreamlike state or conditions. The future of the public. Sacrifices of the public or nation. Air. Water. Homeopathy.
- semiconscious or unconscious. touchy. easily swayed. disillusioned. unrealistic. needful of protection. secretive. ambiguous. unstable. unreliable. vulnerable. impersonal. prone to feelings of inferiority. prone to sleepwalk. allergy prone.
Secretive woman. Allergy proneness. Deceit, disillusionment, or disappointment in relation to the wife. Emotional uncertainty or insecurity. Weakness of a woman. Public deception. Losses of the public or a nation.

Moon parallel Uranus - '42
MO.UR.*
+ intuitive. alert. readily aroused. quick to catch on. inclined to the unusual. spontaneous. original. unpredictable. progressive. has rhythm. technically inclined.
Event of or with a woman. To be stimulated. Eventful hours. To awaken.
- temperamental. self-willed. easily upset. impatient. irritable. unsettled. nervous. revolutionary.
Psychological tensions. Impulses of a woman. Cerebral apoplexy. Public unrest. Excited or agitated nation.

Uranus contraparallel Asc - '35
AS.UR.*
+ intuitive. original. self willed. quick witted. interested in the unusual. wants to be unique. unpredictable. future oriented. able to make needed contacts. gifted with rhythm. reformist. technically skilled.
Sudden acquaintance. Surprising partnership. Adventures with the partner.
- easily upset. agitated. hectic. unstable. restless. turbulent.
Tensions in the environment. Unrest due to others.

Neptune contraparallel Asc - '55
AS.NE.*
+ sensitive. tender. empathic. intuitive. private; drawn to obscurities. mediumistic. interested in metaphysical factors. visionary. daydreams. elusive. imitative. socially withdrawn. future-oriented. progressive.
Casual contacts. Futuristic environment. In the air or water. Immaterial phenomena. The future of a place.
- touchy. secretive. deluded. uncertain. easily swayed. vulnerable. needful of protection. evasive. unrealistic. undependable. impersonal. self-disparaging.
Secretive partner. Ambiguity in the environment. Others' uncertainty. Unrecognized or unknown person. Lax relationships. Disillusionment due to a partner. Loss of partnership. Rejection of the partner. Others' weakness.

MIDPOINT

Sun conjunct Uranus/Asc - '13
AS.SU.UR.
+ intuitive. high-spirited. quick to size up situations. inclined to the unusual. drawn to the new. eager to make contact. unpredictable. future-oriented. gifted with rhythm. skilled at technology. progressive.
Stimulus due to a man. To stimulate the environment. Others surprise. Shared event. Surprise about someone in the immediate environment. Exciting day. Eventful years. - impulsive. non-committal. temperamental. unsettled. restless. inconstant. frantic. self-absorbed. rebellious.
Tension with the male partner. Mutual tension. Irritability.

Jupiter conjunct Mercury/Neptune - '15
ME.JU.NE
+ inspired. highly sensitive. highly imaginative. idyllic. future-oriented. playful. has acting ability.
Secret thoughts of prosperity. Just or fair ideas about the future. To arouse hope. Ideas about easily earned money. Discussion of injustice. Irrigation business. Commerce involving photography, cinema, beverages, aquatics, or aerial phenomena.
- cunning. deluded. unrealistic. thoughtless with money. often judges unfairly. fawning. crafty. sly.
To surrender to an illusion of wealth. Talk about financial losses. Increasing deceit in communications. Business losses.

Moon conjunct Neptune/MC - '54
MC.MO.NE.
+ tender. sensitive. empathic. highly imaginative. daydreams. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. intuitive. hesitates. needful of protection. sensitive to the weather. responds well to homeopathy. capable at acting.
To prepare oneself for the future. Actor. Clairvoyant. Metaphysician.
- impressionable. deluded. indecisive. unrealistic. unclear; ambiguous. deceptive. confused. lacking in self-restraint. self-disparaging. allergy-prone. prone to sleep-walk. feeble. easily swayed.
My weak wife. Disillusionment due to the wife. To be reticent or secretive. To give up illusions. Deceit. Unconsciousness. Uncertain times. Ambiguity among the public. Losses.

Neptune conjunct Uranus/MC - 1'04
MC.UR.NE.
+ intuitive. responds to semiconscious impulses. intellectually original. inventive. imaginative. daydreams. mediumistic. imperceptible. interested in occultism. future-oriented.
Dissolution of my tensions. My intuition. My subconscious. Contact with the future.
- deluded. tires easily. contrary. inclined to refuse or reject.
Denial of my adventures. Surprising uncertainty. Sudden confusion. Unexpected deceit. Surprise over falsehood. Pointless excitement. Chaos. To be suddenly rejected. Checkmate. My unconsciousness.

KUIPER BELT

Mercury conjunct Eris - 1'35

Mercury contraparallel Pluto - '59

Pluto semisquare MC - '58

Sun square Varuna - 2'38

Sun trine Ixion - '39

Mercury sesquiquadrate Quaoar - '54

Sun sesquiquadrate Orcus - '36

Mercury trine Orcus - 2'06

Sun oppose Haumea - 2'13

Eris square MC - 2'45 in RA

Varuna semisquare MC - '01 in RA

Moon trine Makemake - '55 in RA

Makemake trine MC - 1'26 in RA

Mercury oppose Haumea - 2'27 in RA

Haumea biquintile Asc - '31 in RA

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Hey, this is an interesting post. I'm an "indigo" adult and i too have alot of my planets cluttered on one side.

What could be made of my chart? One thing that really got my attention is that my chiron in cancer on the descendant opposes this massive stellium on my ascendant, uncluding my dominant 1st house neptune, and i can't find any solid info on the neptune opposite chiron aspect. the exalted taurus moon with 6 trines and a strong pluto make this a very strong chart, at least i think. When i look at my time of birth, and how these planets are placed it seems like destiny.

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quote:
Originally posted by Glaucus:
The 'Bundle' shape is rare, and reflects a narrowness of vision and experience. 'Bundle' types tend to channel their energies into issues related to the occupied section at the expense of the rest of their chart. This shape describes the specialist in his or her field, or, negatively, the obsessive personality. And because a 'Bundle' chart has no oppositions, the person whose chart it is, will have more difficulty seeing things from others’ perspectives, unless those 'other's’ are fellow Indigos.

A 'Bundle', or 'Cluster',' is not an especially rare shape; 30% of my clients have this configuration. What is rare, however, is having Neptune and Uranus conjunct (in the same sign). This only ever happens in the sign of Capricorn and last happened in 1827 (before that in 1657) and will next occur in 2157.


I came pretty close, my Uranus conjuncts Neptune in Capricorn. Would my chart be classified as an Indigo's? I fit the majority of the symptoms listed. Actually, if anything, I'm actually blown away if this is the case because I have the majority of those symptoms.


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Wait a minute..According to this lady, 1
1. Indigo birth charts are caracterized by all planets or planetary aspects occupying on a certain half of the wheel...yes.
2. Uranus and neptune in the same sign, which is very rare...I do have uranus and neptune in sagitarius in the fifth.
is it so? or otherwise?

Then I too have what I listed above in my chart...hmmm but im not sure of it being probable what are the common factors that count?

I believe the first indigo children started to incarnate in 1983 untill 1990 if im not wrong pluto in scorpio generation isnt it?

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According to an astrologer on this website http://www.newdawnastrology.com.au/the_new_children.php

Uranus and Neptune in the Horoscope:

These planets are immensely powerful and as gateways to dimensions of reality beyond the outer reaches of our solar system, reflect the ongoing evolution of humanity, both individually and collectively. Their discovery in recent times has catapulted human-kind into an unprecedented phase of growth and drama on a world scale.

Those children and youth born with either or both of these planets in strong aspect to the Sun and/or Moon, or the Nodes or Angles carry a powerful potential to offer their deep wisdom, common sense and knowing when they come into adulthood and take positions of leadership in the world. Of course these kinds of planetary patterns also bring their own challenges, not the least of which is for these expanded souls to adjust to life in a dense third-dimensional physical form. In fact significant numbers have had personal tragedy or are trapped inside broken and disabled bodies, and yet their intelligence, light, joy and love shine through for all to see.

I have examined the charts of many of these children and find a number of common astrological themes:

1. Uranus and or Neptune in strong aspect to Sun and/or Moon, the Angles and/or the Nodes. Those who are particularly brilliant and gifted seem to have strong contacts with the Nodes, indicating the development of higher consciousness in prior lifetimes and other dimensions.

2. There is often a marked focus of personal planets with at least one outer planet in one sign, indicating a strength and focus in that area of life. Some babies born in the past couple of years are showing stelliums in Aquarius and Pisces, activated by Uranus and Neptune in those 2 signs.

3. Mars is very often in an air sign and/or in strong aspect to Mercury, stimulating and energizing the mental body and urging them to speak out.

4. Leo and Aquarius are usually prominent in the chart. These 2 signs can indicate gifted intelligence and talents, being independent and different. They also carry the light.

There are some case studies too..and 1970 saw the dawn of indigo children and 1990 saw the dawn of crystal children or rainbow children.

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Omg Glaucus I dont know if this counts but here is what I found and exactly true in my case.
And I dint know all this untill now!

1-I read an article about Indigo adults and children in Spirit and Destiny magazine and the woman who was an astrologer has done loads of research on them. She found that almost always, Indigos have a least 5 or more planets in the fifth house.
I find that the charataristics that they mention apply to almost everyone.

2-I heard about lightworkers from my sister before, because she said she was one ... and I do see 11:11 quite often. I even live down the street from an office building that is numbered 1111. I also see number combinations like 2:22, 3:33, 4:44, 5:55 and 1:11.

3-I read an article about Indigo adults and children in Spirit and Destiny magazine and the woman who was an astrologer has done loads of research on them. She found that almost always, Indigos have a least 5 or more planets in the fifth house.

4-I inquired about Indigos myself. Here's the thing---
When they talk about "cleared karma", I THINK they refer to someone who no longer needs to reincarnate. They are old souls who have resolved all their karmic issues. They return-- are reborn-- not for their betterment, but to help mankind. They CHOOSE to return.

source http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=19834

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