posted April 05, 2009 08:54 AM           

I have finished all about me - astrologically.

When I was in one Forum one astrologer told me:
I can't go forwards because I have retrograde Jupiter in my 1st house
And I can't go backwards because of retrograde Neptune in my 12th house.

Is there anybody with similar "blockade?

Thank you.

posted April 05, 2009 09:53 AM           

Those two planets are both my Karma: my two past lives. Neptune in 12th is past, past life and Jupiter is past life before that.

I the really past life what belongs to the 12th house I was drowning in the lake (Neptune - water). I know that from Regression.

I was told that both planets are doing problems to me as they block my AC.

Have you done Regression?

Buena

posted April 05, 2009 09:57 AM           

Do you have any problems with so many retrograde planets in 12th?

Here is link about R Saturn in 12th.
www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades - 59k

posted April 05, 2009 10:16 AM           

-----Ive got Saturn in Capricorn in the 12th conjunct the ASC, also in Capricorn.
I must say, relating to your building-structures metaphor, I CAN build structures, put limits... but they dwell mostly under the shadow of existencialism (which would be the 12th house), the fear that everything is ephimere (correct spelling?), rather ethereal, not very tangible... which is a direct contradiction to Capricorn's material sense of reality.
Ive read about the karmic side too..... .... ............. ... Even though Saturn happens to find its Joy in the 12th house... I havent found that much joy in life concerning this matter.

Louis, you're the second person I've ran into who's mentioned about Saturn finding its "joy" in the 12th House, and I've found just last week what this means:
"In hellenistic astrology, Saturn is in joy here because it likes to create agnoia [unwit, ignorance]. It is a natural position for Saturn to express it's inherent blackness/neglectfulness."
It sounds to me like Saturn itself is at its joy because it gets to take a vacation while in the 12th House, but the native of this placement seems to suffer for it.

Probably, yes. Saturns known as the lord of karma and being in the most karmatic of all houses.. eehh.. times like these are when Id like to try a past-life regression.
Of all my chart, I hate this position. My Saturn is well placed, completely unafflicted (at least by any of the 10 major planets), but this house position... is too painful.
I hate looking at people, looking at life knowing its all gonna end some day, no matter how much I try to enjoy things, theyll end up being some sort of little souvenirs stored in my mind, knowing that all the people I know and myself are bound to die some day.
Its the natural cycle of it all, if you noticed... the natural cycle (Saturn) of endings (12th house).

That's how I look at life sometimes too, like "little souvenirs stored in my mind". I've told my best friend when we're both feeling particularly nihilistic that that's all life is, that no matter what you do, how good a time you may have at one time or another, it's just going to end up being an image in your mind is all that's left, as if it may as well have never even happened to beging with. I've never really thought it might have anything to do with having Saturn in the 12th House before now, but I suppose it may have an influence. Saturn can be a rather grim planet after all. Maybe that's why I seemed to have had a rather precocious understanding of death from as early as I can remember.

posted April 05, 2009 10:24 AM           

NEPTUNE RETROGRADE IN YOUR NATAL CHART

As one born under the Neptune retrograde influence, you'd probably need dreams and illusion more than most, especially in your childhood. You possess the innate ability of being able to see through things right away and anticipate the current of events before others do. This ability to foresee future trends can be both a blessing or a curse, depending on your take on it. Should you follow your vision of those illusions or turn your back on them and strike them off as delusions?
Disillusionment is likely to take on different meanings for you. It isn't just about feeling disappointed when things don't pan out they way they do for you. Disillusionment can also take on the form of that sinking feeling that follows an accomplishment or success. If the energies of this influence are not put to good use, you are likely to indulge in different forms of escapism which includes drug, alcohol abuse or refusal to face up to reality.

posted April 05, 2009 11:36 AM           

Transit is going over but Natal Chart stays for ever.
It is true when retrograde planet becomes direct (it happened with my both R planets) in that case should be better. The only thing with my R Neptune becoming D: 1998 I have got right diagnosis (12th house is house of diagnoses as well).
What can I do with diagnosis when doctors have no idea how to help me?

posted April 05, 2009 11:46 AM           

He had retrograde Uranus in 12th.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/helena274/astro_2gw_01_adolf_hitler_hp5660275.gif

I don't believe in his Chart and hour of birth.