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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 05, 2009 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I'm interested in what can be gleaned by others about me in the realm of relationships. I know what I like and don't like, but I am interested in what can be gleaned from my chart about what kind of woman I am in the sphere of relationships.
I'm trying to look at my own patterns and work on them, so outside feedback might be interesting.
What kind of guy would I like? How do you think I act? How do I act in relationships?

Oh, and let's clear one thing up in advance: I don't cheat
I've probably given away a fair amount in other posts, but I am curious what can be seen from my chart alone.

Thanks

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 05, 2009 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm, my amateur guess is intense, passionate, and generous. I'm looking at descendant and venus in scorpio. Jupiter completes a t-square between your venus and mars, so there just seems to be alot of energy in general. I shall wait for a more experienced person to respond though.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 05, 2009 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Dulce ! Yes, the Jupiter T-square is always fired up lol.

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posted April 05, 2009 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
A diplomatic servant maybe. Reason: Venus in 6th and 6th house cusp is Libra too (I think). Vx there too.

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sunshine9
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posted April 05, 2009 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message
MVM,

How lovely - you have mutual reception between your Venus & Mars, and even Moon!

With Venus in Scorpio, you probably tend to have a mysterious, sexy, seductive air when you turn on the charm. Mars in Taurus makes you pretty straightforward in how you go after what you want - very practical, down-to-earth, and you probably don't quit until you get what you want. Moon in Aries must give you a fiery energy emotionally, and it must feel healing to you to express it (with Chiron sitting there)!

Your Sun in Virgo probably makes you gravitate toward the ambitious, serious perfectionist types, though your 7th house is in Scorpio - your Venus likes the dark, mysterious types! I see a quincunx between your Sun & Moon - some push & pull between your basic drive and your emotions?

That sound right?


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sunshine9
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posted April 05, 2009 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message
Oh yes, and the opposition between Venus & Mars, with the T-square to Jupiter..

The opposition suggests you may be temperamental in relationships, that it would help to work on taming the expression of fiery emotions with your partner, for better balance, more harmony in the relationship.

The T-square to Jupiter probably leads you to excesses - may make you extravagant with your affections and perhaps finances too. Moderation will help.. You probably resent being forced to do what you don't want to do (though this is probably true for 99.9% of us!) A partner who puts a planet across from your Jupiter (around early degrees of Leo) will make you feel comfortable with the T-square energies.

You also have Neptune in 7th - may need to make sure you are seeing your partner / the relationship clearly as you tend to idealize. There may be a strong psychic link to your partner and others in general (probably what makes you so empathetic!)

Sunshine

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 05, 2009 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
23...interesting. Yes, I can relate to that to an extent.

And...WOW, Sunshine! You totally got it right....all of it. I'm completely blown away actually

Yes, I can be highly temperamental....lots of emotions, lots of need to express them (in a fiery way, not always 'nice'). It's hard to get out the feelings without going overboard, I must admit. I do feel oddly purged of something when I express those feelings. I try to get them out constructively, but sometimes it's not right, and sometimes the partners are not expressive at all, so it's hard to deal with.
I do lean toward excess in my affections. As in, let's spoil this person rotten and spoil them for anyone else .... I can be a huge sucker when I'm in love, lavishing attention and just completely excessive with my love demonstrations.

Interesting observation about Leo. I find Leo males very comforting always, and they're like the only sign I trust. And I've never been involved with one seriously, or tried. One guy I am kind of seeing now is a late Leo (double Leo) with early Venus and Mercury in Leo too (makes nice aspects to my Jupiter)...it all feels rather easy, which is weird for me. I like that Leo energy a lot...find it oddly comforting and stabilizing. I never realized that it had to do with the T-square....wow. I'm curious, why Leo?

Yeah, the Neptune stuff is very heavy for me. I do tend to idealize and need to keep my eyes open because I really have a hard time seeing things clearly once the love feelings bubble up lol.
It is heavy duty empathy on my part, sometimes to the point of draining.

This is so great, exactly the kind of help I was looking for...thank you so much, Sunshine

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sunshine9
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posted April 06, 2009 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message
MVM,

I'm so glad to hear it makes sense - I was trying to flex my astro-muscle!!

The reason I suggested someone with planets in Leo is that T-squares tend to create some nervous energy in a chart - you have planets at the 3 points, and it feels a bit unbalanced and open-ended, unlike a easy Grand Trine configuration. It may be your biggest challenge and the source of greatest growth for you. Synastry can help balance tense aspects in our charts, and a person who puts a planet across from your Jupiter, squaring your Mars & Venus, and completing this open configuration will help provide a sense of balance to that T-square. It won't necessarily be very easy, because a planet at that point will also be involved in a T-square with your Mars & Venus - meaning, the relationship with him, while it won't take away your individual life lessons, will enable you to resolve them in a more supportive atmosphere. That planet will also be opposing your Jupiter.. (the guy you're seeing - do his Leo Mercury/Venus not oppose your Jupiter? They could quincunx it though, being in late Leo..) If you wanted easier energy, check to see if he/a potential partner has planets in early Cancer/Virgo/Capricorn/Pisces as they could also help you work through the T-square with fewer challenges. But then again, growth is always good, and it's not like we get to choose who we may fall in love with!

So, leaving alone supportive aspects coming from synastry, I also look for natal aspects that may help resolve tense configurations, and deal with placements that may be tough to handle. With your Mars-Venus opp., you do have another planet aspecting them - Saturn in Cancer - he sextiles your Mars & trines your Venus. That means expressing your Saturn will help you balance your Mars & Venus energy (your Saturn Return was probably a turning point in that sense; was it?)! Saturn represents discipline; perhaps it indicates that reining in those fiery emotions a bit and thinking it over before you let the emotions influence how you act/speak/spend - not always, but when you sense a inner struggle happening - may help. That could aid in alleviating any discordant energy brought about by the opposition, and will help you in situations where your temper wants to flare up or you may want to be unnecessarily extravagant, for instance (I have similar issues, MVM; I go overboard when I'm in love AND I have Neptune issues too though mine are about having a nebulous sense of self with Neptune in my 1st squaring my Venus! *cringe* )

Looking at your Neptune, you have sextiles to him from Mercury and Jupiter. So, I think what will help keep you grounded in a relationship without being carried away (by the Neptunian energy), is communication (Mercury) - it helps you through that sextile! And you do it well too - your Mercury is in Libra helps you express yourself so eloquently (as I've had the chance to note!) That makes sense on a logical level too - communication helps dispel confusion.

Do you do anything in particular to ground yourself from the drain on your psyche? Perhaps identifying yourself too strongly with your partner is the challenge represented by the Neptune in 7th; it can make it hard for you to see him clearly as a separate individual if you're feeling his feelings too! I know there are a few crystals out there that can help ground you - I believe amethyst is the one that is recommended for psychic grounding, though I'm far from a crystal expert. Do you wear any crystals on your person? You could also carry them with you, keep them under your pillow or just near you when you sleep.


Sunshine

p.s. That release you feel with the expression of emotions is probably due to your Chiron conjuncting your Moon - so very healing for you, even if your Virgo Sun may have to work to get used to it!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 06, 2009 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I am impressed with your flexing

I do have amethyst somewhere around here, I need to dig it up. I have a bunch of crystals I never use lol...should use them again, I was for a while, they were starting to help.

I don't know what I was thinking. I was looking at my Pluto sextile his Venus and Mercury, not my Jupiter which, indeed, does oppose those planets (along with a wide opp. to his late Mars in Cancer)....yes, we do have the Venus/Mars square. He's got Saturn is Pisces but it's late, like Cancer Mars.
My Saturn does make some nice semi-sextiles to his Venus and Mercury, and even his moon. I was looking at my own T-square with the aspects at the bottom to Saturn, thinking of a connection....and there you've made it clear

It's too bad I have to leave so soon, I do get along great with Mr. Leo. Here he is doing me huge astrological favors and I am getting ready to go (see, my Neptune is kicking in already, making me put him on some little pedestal LOL)....ahhh, maybe I'll get lucky again, who knows. In truth we have very little in common as far as personal interests (our Venuses square too), so I'm not sure it would even last anyway.

I do try and keep my eyes open, because Neptune in love can be like a form of emotional narcolepsy...asleep at the wheel and then you slam hard into reality!
Mostly the energy I use is spent on my work with writing, and also the spiritual counseling stuff. It's hard for me to stay grounded when I like someone a lot (sounds like you understand with your Neptune too). I tend to get drained on my own feelings and then can't work, so it's like a constant watch

I had a really, really easy Saturn Return, by the way. It's right before and right after that it was hellish. Saturn was really kind and stabilizing to me, didn't seem harsh...kind of got me enjoying my own company and liking myself. Really boosted my self-esteem (surprisingly) and got me feeling stable about myself. I was surprised to find that I really did like myself as a person. Such a simple thing, and yet nothing I had ever seriously thought about. I mean, don't get me wrong....that T-square and my moon reveal a fairly healthy ego. With my upbringing I should not be this optimistic or confident, it's actually kind of miraculous that I do. But the Saturn Return seemed to solidify it in such a way to where I felt happy being alone and just became aware of how comfortable I was in my own skin. Complete revelation, really....

Thanks again, Sunshine....you've been so completely helpful, and I'm extremely grateful for your help

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sunshine9
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posted April 07, 2009 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message
MVM,

I was wondering if you'd moved yet - I thought I remembered you saying end of May. I'm sure you will meet someone just as nice as Mr. Leo in CA, if not much better! I have a feeling a fresh start will be great for you!

I totally understand Neptunian issues - mine makes me want to be everything to everyone to the extent of sacrificing my own interests and getting totally lost in a relationship, to the point that every so often, I find I have little sense of who I am and need to take time out to rediscover me! This break from the Pisces has been helpful that way, but he didn't let me wander too far off before he started trying to get me back, lol!

Moments of solitude would probably be good for the both of us (and anyone with Neptune issues really), and crystals can help ground us. I'm now wearing a couple that an astrologer prescribed.. I don't know if it's the crystals or whatever else, but despite all the uncertainty in my life, I'm finding I'm happier than before! I read up on them a bit, and I think amethyst is the primary grounding one to use..

I guess, seeing the effect of Saturn on your Mars-Venus opposition, it is understandable that your Saturn Return helped you achieve more of a balance between those energies, when in most cases it may stir the pot. You sound like such a happy, confident, assertive person, you're a joy to know! It was my pleasure to try to help in some way..


Sunshine

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koiflower
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posted April 07, 2009 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
My first impression is being attracted to a man who is serious, a hard worker, passionate, with a fairly open outlook on life. Or have I just described you?

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posted April 07, 2009 07:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I think you act very sweet and completely unassuming at first, but once it gets serious, you become intense and completely different than what men thought you were at first, you need to be with them all the time, and need reassurance a lot. I think you'd be attracted to simple men(who are also secretive/alluring at the same time), who work with their hands. Strong hands probably get your attention. I think you are loyal, and takes a lot for you to leave someone. You will fight breaking up very strongly...you prefer difficult relationships and men. If its too easy, you get bored. You like men who spoil you on some level, maybe with love or gifts? You like a man with class.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 07, 2009 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you again, Sunshine...I am totally going for a bunch of amethyst to wear and hold ....and I also hope the Pisces experience currently isn't too draining for you

Koi...yes, that sounds like me LOL

Writes, kind of...you're pretty much right on the ball about all of this, especially with the different side of me emerging. It's very much night and day for me as to who I become in relationships.
But I don't go for difficult relationships or men anymore; I actually get tired very easily by them now. But when I was younger, YES. In general I'm very good with high-maintenance men; I'm good for them and know how to take care of them, but they're not so good for me and tend to drain me. Over the years the attraction for that has dwindled. I get interested for like five minutes, then just feel myself getting drained and walk away.

I do have a thing for a man's hands, you're right. Big time. A man who works with his hands turns me on. The area from hands to forearms drives me up the wall. I think it's the Mars-Venus opposition. I'm also the one who does the spoiling; I like it in return, but most of the time it's me that's doing the coddling and spoiling LOL
And yes, I get bored very quickly, especially when there's no fun or the person doesn't have a mind of his own. I'm trying to channel that in a positive way without drama or upheavals.

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Love
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posted April 09, 2009 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
MVM ~

I'm not sure I have too much to add to what's been written except my ability to relate to parts of your natal. I also have Neptune in the 7th aspecting (quincunxing) my Moon in the 12th. I also have Saturn in the 3rd. I can definitely relate to what you said about Neptune since I've been consciously working on my Neptune issues for a while now.

One thing I thought was very significant is the yod you have with Jupiter, Neptune and Saturn. As I understand it, to work with the energies of a yod, you use the planet or point (or house) opposite to the planet at the apex of the yod. In your case that would be Saturn.

The thing is that since Saturn is conjuncting your South Node in Cancer and your North Node is in Capricorn, I would imagine that this might make North Node issues a little more complicated/confusing for you...?

It's even more interesting since Saturn rules your 9th and 10th houses and Jupiter is part of the yod.

Basically, I'm wondering how this all plays out for you. Since the point opposite to the apex of your yod is, in fact, your North Node, then this point seems to be highlighted for you.

Do you have an easier time 'balancing your Saturn', after your Saturn Return? I also notice that your Lilith conjuncts your North Node. This would seem to indicate that those deep, feminine energies play an important role in your growth as well and are possibly one of the keys to your destiny.

I can see how it might be very healing to spend time in your presence with all those 6th/12th house placements, plus your Sun in Virgo. And then with your North Node in the 9th that would add to the role of teacher/healer.

Cheers to one 7th house Neptunian from another!

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