posted April 09, 2009 06:24 PM         

So, maybe I am nuts but it seems as if the virguy I have been dating does get moody, and I have read comments on virgos and moodiness. He is actually reminding me of a cancerian I dated, the difference being that Mr. Crab was vocally needy whereas the Virguy does not get needy at all.

These are the three moods I have observed from him:

1. The normal mood: this is when he is normal and feeling good.
2. The I want to be alone mood: this moodiness is characterized by him feeling moody and not wanting to be with anybody. It is different from him wanting his space. Also, he does not know what causes it.
3. The grumpy moodiness: here, he wants to be around people but he is grumpy, touchy, sensitive and critical as hades. He does not want to be touched, no kissing....nothing.

I am facing #3 right now. I don't know if I should ask him what is wrong or just give him his space.

Additional details:

Well, he usually gives me a kiss on the lips and last time we hanged out (yesterday), he didn't do it. I asked him why....he just kept going and I came between him and his car door. I told him if there is something that bothers him and that he needs to tell me to let me know. He said that me not letting him go was bothering him. I stepped away.

Anyways, at the end, he said that he just did not feel like it and asked the reason he should explain himself. I told him my point of view.

At the same time, he has been spending more time with me...which is odd.

I don't know, he is being moody and critical and I am being needy and insecure. Perfect.

I am the kind of person that if I don’t feel comfy with someone, I just don’t hang out with him/her.

Oh…and since I was in such a happy and jolly mood, he kept saying that I was crazy. He has been saying that for the past three times we have been hanging out.
Imo, he has been a grumpy and boring old fart.

I am not tolerant towards people who go through few days-week moodiness, especially if they are men.

posted April 09, 2009 06:33 PM         

I suggest that you look at the aspects to his Moon because it is the object that is associated with emotions,feelings,and moods

a moon that is in hard aspect will tend to be moody.....especially if involved with a t-square. I have lunar apex t-square of Moon square the opposition of Saturn and Jupiter-Neptune myself,and I am very moody person. Cancers have nothing on me. I am the son of a woman who has strong Cancer influences in her chart, and she's the daughter of a Cancer Man.

Also Moon in conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,sesquiquadrae to Ascendant and Midheaven can be moody too

There could also be a significant water influence like a Moon in a watersign
I have significant water myself including having a moon in a watersign. actually Sun,Mercury,Venus in Scorpio...Moon in Pisces.

also I suggest that you read up on irritable male syndrome. Men have their own PMS type stuff. It's connected to fluctuation,drops in testosterone. I can totally relate. Testosterone was even used as an antidepressant for men a long time ago.

also males with high estrogen levels tend to be more sensitive,emotional,moody,and prone to depression more than the average male.
I am male with high estrogen levels myself.

there are lot of factors for a male to be moody.

posted April 09, 2009 07:28 PM         

Another friend of mine has a Virgo Moon and he can be REALLY cranky when things don't go his way or if he's tired. His Moon squares Saturn, Uranus and opposes his Mercury and Jupiter.

posted April 09, 2009 09:02 PM         

very interesting. I wonder if that Virgo Moon has harder aspects through declination

I also wonder if she has hard aspects to kuiper belt objects...especially the big ones

My Moon is only square Varuna by only 10 minutes of arc. Moon in a close square to a kuiper belt object could be very sensitive,intense,emotional,moody .......just like Moon in square to kuiper belt object, Pluto could be.

I also believe that in extreme circumstances, it could indicate possibility of schizophrenia and/or prone to psychic attacks in the metaphysical sense. After all, it is a transneptunian object. Kuiper belt objects have highly eccentric orbits which could indicate possibly nonconformist natures. Classical kuiper belt objects aka cubewanos like Varuna are actually transplutonians, they orbit well beyond Pluto.

it's just a thought

posted April 09, 2009 09:04 PM         

oh yeah

another thing

Moon on/near the celestial equator...that is near 0 degrees latitude in the declinations, can indicate a highly emotional,moody,sensitive type

also Moon beyond 23'25 degrees in the declinations is when Moon is out of bounds, and that can indicate emotional,moody,sensitive type...more unstable emotionally

posted April 09, 2009 10:32 PM         

I suggest you completely pull back when he pulls one of those on you and show understanding, dont push him to do something he doesn't feel like doing, there is nothing that irritates me more than a bubbly female who is being pushy when I am just not in the mood for her. Why is that irritating? Cause you simply cant reciprocate back what you are getting and it isn't fair, thats how I feel about it personally.

For mood 2: Natural Virgo trend. I am like that too, at times I dont want to be around anyone even the ones I care for and love, I just want to be alone, it's time to reflect or sort out whatever is bothering me or just for the hell of it. I enjoy and love my own company too.

For mood 3: Virgo's are all self absorbed and self centered, so if something is bothering him or if he is just not in a good mood it will just manifest itself as crankiness, grumpiness and all the other good stuff lol.

Also Virgo's do not like to display emotions in public, this touching, feeling and kissing stuff can be done in the bedroom, I dont have to kiss you or hug you or put my arm around you in public to reassure you of how I feel towards you while everyone is watching. I personally do it a lot but when no one is watching though lol.

posted April 09, 2009 10:39 PM         

I really hate the word afflicted

what a nice self esteem booster!

hahahahahah
t-squares are common in successful people. There is a lot of energy and drive in those types of people

the opposition corresponds with Libra and the waxing and waning square correspond with Cancer and Capricorn. Libra,Cancer,and Capricorn cardinal signs which are associated with action initiation. Conjunction is associated with Aries which is a cardinal sign too,and therefore action and initiation.

t-square would be viewed as an afflicted configuration by people use the word, "afflicted"

I also believe that if you looked at aspects through the harmonic perspective, there would be a different view about hard aspects.

they are definitely not viewed as afflictions in Cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology.

I am going to make a thread about t-square apex planets

posted April 10, 2009 07:39 AM         

He's a Virgo Sun, Moon and Asc. His moon is conjunct his sun, mercury, Venus and saturn. it squares his neptune and sextiles his Mars in cancer. It's a very selfish thing in my eyes. He oozes misery all of a sudden.

posted April 10, 2009 01:17 PM         

Yeah...Nessus is considered the badboy of the centaurs

Nessus is considered to have a Saturn-Pluto like energy about it with Saturn/Pluto midpoint considered to be Nessus-sensitive, meaning an aspect to Saturn/Pluto midpoint is like an aspect to Nessus.

My mom has Moon oppose Nessus with only 3 minutes of arc, and she has manic depressive like tendencies.

She is very moody any with all that cancer,water....too much water in her chart....literally,she has a history of too much water in her body. she used to have take waterpills.

posted April 10, 2009 06:02 PM         

His moon is in Virgo…..

And he only has Saturn in Scorpio. No more water other than that.
And also, since his birth time is not correct, I don’t know the exact placements for the houses.

How do I figure out the t-squares, stellium, etc?
And what in the nine worlds is Nessus?

VirgOh

Thanks for the advice.

I shall give him space or at least, I am going to take some space.

Do remember that he has been the one coming to my apartment and consuming food, drinks etc. I want to be respected and feel comfortable under my own shelter. Instead, he gets critical and moody.

This is not a very comfortable position since (if you have read my previous posts) his parents would never approve of me, thus I am the one who provides the 'home', bed, etc.

He lives with his parents, I live on my own.

I have not been the one pursuing him. I know I want to be there for him but he also should try to be responsible for his emotions.