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belgz
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posted April 19, 2009 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
when you had a child did you have any transits to your moon at the time of conception?

everyone claims moon rules pregnancy but im just wondering how many people actually had transits to their moon when they or their partner fell pregnant...

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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belgz
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posted April 24, 2009 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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Coffee
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posted April 24, 2009 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
(quietly whispering)

Have you not heard about house rulers?

(still whispering, while giving a strong nudge and wink in right direction)

1st and 5th rulers in aspect. 5th rules pregnancy.

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belgz
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posted April 24, 2009 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
lol yes i understand that but...


Most astrologers claim that transits to the moon from outer planets like jupiter, pluto and neptune may indicate a time you fall pregnant or have a baby.

So are you saying when the 5th house ruler aspects the moon would be more likely?

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Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
Venus: Leo

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posted April 24, 2009 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
I hope youre not trying to get pregnant with that guy. It doesnt sound like a good situation to bring a child in. Abuse, drama, etc like that isnt healthy for a child Makes me sad. Are you still with him? PHYSICAL abuse is never okay. I dont care how you justify it.

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Coffee
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posted April 24, 2009 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing about the Moon! Forget the Moon!

Look at your chart in whole sign house system. Your ASC should be the 1st house and the sign on the ASC will cover all house 1. The next sign will cover all house 2 and so on and so on.

Next, if you can manage that!

Look at your 5th house and see what sign rules that cusp. Then look at what sign is on the ASC, noting down what sign rules that house.

Then you do some easy peasy maths, like the level 1 geometry in school...work some angles out...and then out pops a baby.

You want this for you?
What is your ASC and I will let you know. Better still, post your details.

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belgz
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posted April 24, 2009 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
This is my chart and transits... My 5th house ruler will conjunct my ascendant in september this year..

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posted April 24, 2009 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
No hes never been physical with me i wouldve chopped his hands off after 9 yrs..

We actually sorted it all out i was under the impression he lied to me about alot of things but it turns out his friend was the liar and we had alot of family issues because of it. His mum didnt want me. Still dont! And im probably the more dominant one in the relationship.

This is his chart..
Hes very quiet compared to me and a more private person. A hard worker and loyal to his family. Question is his loyalty about his feelings to me. I became unsure of this 3 weeks ago. I am very cautious now and he is a very cautious person also. he wouldnt initiate this without being aware of the consequences. I believe he is the ideal person to father my children.

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Coffee
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posted April 24, 2009 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Excellent!

Your ASC is Virgo, ruler is MERCURY.
Your 5th is Capricorn, Ruler is SATURN.


Do this method the same for every chart.
There will be a difference if the slower moving planet is on the ASC.

Take the slower moving planet (SATURN) and look what aspect it makes to the faster Moving planet (MERCURY)

Saturn is sextile Mercury, almost exact. Saturn will stop, turn forward, and then move onto an exact sextile. That would indicate best time. If you can get Mercury in good aspect to Saturn also, that is the best time. Mercury will trine Saturn when it reaches 27 Gemini, with the sextile, ssx good also. Conjunction is best.

If you leave it to September, that is fine. Saturn may have gone way out of sextile from Mercury, but it will still be sextile. Albeit more degrees away.

A good point about Saturn hitting your ASC is the ssx with Saturn itself - 5th ruler!
Saturn ssx Saturn (while also loosly sextile Mercury) on top of a Mercury conjunct Saturn is good timing.

1. Take the slower moving planet from 1st and 5th house rulers. Work out the angle from slower moving planet to faster moving planet.

If good: All is good.
If not so good: Doesnt mean you cant get pregnant. Maybe in some cases, but more harder to have children.

With only logic and very little results, Im not the authorirty on what the results are.


2. Once you have found the slower moving planet aspecting the faster moving planet....find the faster moving planet in relation to the slower moving planet. best aspect as always.

3. Find the 5th ruler aspecting itself.


1 and 2 should be the most reliable. 3 is "a bit extra"

Just looking further ahead, it might be harder to have a child as Saturn squares Mercury when it enters Libra. Towards the end of the Saturn transit through Libra (many years away!) Your 5th house will return (Saturn) - not all bad.

Still, if that was someone I knew, I would tell them within the next year, or wait about 6-7 years.

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Coffee
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posted April 24, 2009 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Look at a clock. It has 12 numbers (Houses/signs) and 2 hands, a big and a small one.

Imagine those hands are planets. Now imagine all the planets as hands (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Neptune etc)

Now take away al the planets which do not represent the question at hand to leave two.
Using the example above, MERCURY and SATURN.

SATURN is the slower moving planet - you can call this the LITTLE hand (the one that moves slowly giving the hours)
MERCURY is the faster moving planet - you can call this the BIG hand (the one that moves quicker giving the minutes)

In order to tell the time....
You look at the BIG hand first o all to give the hour, to set what longer time frame you are in......then.....
You look at the LITTLE hand to give a more acurate and final time frame you are in.

Not discounting Solar Arcs and Progressions, you look at the slower moving planet - the BIG HAND, to set the scene of the prediction.

Take Sagittarius rising. Jupiter rules 1st and Mars rules 5th.
Jupiter takes about 12 years to travel round the zodiac. Mars takes about 2 years.

The transit of 1st house ruler, Jupiter, to 5th house ruler Mars is the 1st thing you look at, which sets the scene for you (1st) getting pregnant (5th)

Next, you look at the smaller hand, Mars.

Find that in relation to big hand and youre in a much better place for getting pregnant.

Big hand, little hand.

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belgz
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posted April 25, 2009 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
It doesnt seem to match with his. Even though he has neptune and jupiter on his moon right now theyre not the rulers of his 5th house.

his 5th house ruler is pluto. It could even be venus.

But.. On the 30th july.

Venus will conjunct my moon and it will trine his moon also. It will trine his 5th house ruler pluto and my 5th house ruler saturn.

Saturn will be at 19 deg and it wont be exact sextile but it will still be close. Thats the only day i cant assume.

In september i think its very unlikely because saturn will square my moon even though its a week, maybe it wont happen.


This is his chart with transits on that day.


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belgz
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posted April 25, 2009 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Oh but... his 5th house ruler is pluto and neptune and jupiter are trine pluto and at the same time conjunct his moon. so maybe it is all good heheheheh.

I want to have a healthy beautiful and smart baby this year. heheheheh

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Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
Venus: Leo

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Coffee
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posted April 25, 2009 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Okaaaaaay Belgz!

Heres hoping you and Mr Belgz are aving it off like likkle bunny wabbits and some storks come to deliver your baby soon enough.

1st ruler is MOON. 5th ruler is PLUTO.

The big hand, Pluto, has just moved out of sextile with Moon. This will be happening for the next 20 years or so. You dont need to concentrate on Pluto at all.
The scene has already been set with the slow moving Pluto.

With him, just find a time when NEW (or full) Moon is in aspect to his Pluto. Good aspect.

(If going for it within the next year)
Look at your natal and find a time when transit Mercury is in good aspect with natal Saturn. Next, and at the same time when you have done the above, look for a time when transit New Moon aspects his natal Pluto.

Get both right and that is the ideal day.

I hope you been a good Belgz and told the guy what you are thinking of doing. If that is what you are thinking......

GOOD LUCK!

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belgz
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posted April 25, 2009 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou very much for your help I have been looking at this for a really long time now.

Thankyou so much i appreciate you explaining it to me. xoxoxox

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Coffee
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posted April 25, 2009 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Very good. You dont need any help getting from A to B? Excellent

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Aya_and_baby
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posted April 27, 2009 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
Good thing I tried to figure out when I got pregnant (feb 11, apparently) The only transit I'm seeing is Mercury conjunct my Mars. And not even exact.


My 5th house ruler is Mars (Aries 5th house)

Apart from that I have Pallas Athene conjunct my Chiron (and moon, but not as exact as Chiron)

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belgz
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posted April 27, 2009 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
When i fell pregnant last year in november i had jupiter exactly move 1 degree into my 5th house. Sun on ascedant and my chart ruler was conjunct jupiter in 2nd.

Saturn was 4 degrees away from making a sextile to my sun and chart ruler mercury.

Venus was in 4th opposing my sun.

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posted April 27, 2009 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavazza     Edit/Delete Message

now IF i get pregnant, i hope it will not be a difficult pregnancy
the next aspect is an opposition from tr Jupiter(the 5th ruler) to natal Sun(the 1st house ruler). At the same tr Jupiter conjunct tr Sun. Then in a few days tr Sun will oppose natal Sun
tr Sun and tr Jupiter both in the 8th house
i really don' like this and i want a baby so much...

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Lara
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posted April 27, 2009 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
By the title of this thread, i'm wondering who this question is NOT directed at?

Reptiles and Amphibians? lol

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Lavazza
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posted April 27, 2009 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavazza     Edit/Delete Message
lol Lara
i think Belgz meant BOTH males and females

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belgz
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posted April 28, 2009 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
hahahahah how funny. Maybe the transits ur pet was having when they got impregnated by another cat in the neighbourhood... :P


Another time i fell pregnant was when saturn my 5th houser ruler was conjunct my sun n 10th. Sun is the ruler of my 12th.

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•Sun• Cancer
•Moon• Gemini
•Mars• Cancer
•Mercury• Cancer
•Venus• Leo

•••Virgo Rising•••(26deg)

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Lara
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posted April 28, 2009 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm

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belgz
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posted April 28, 2009 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
oh and jupiter was also conjunct my ascendant. or just about to from the 12th house.

uranus was trine mars. and i had alot of sex

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•' •.♥♫♫´°°♫ • LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL •.♥.•♫°°´♫♫ ♥ •

•Sun• Cancer
•Moon• Gemini
•Mars• Cancer
•Mercury• Cancer
•Venus• Leo

•••Virgo Rising•••(26deg)

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DD
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posted April 29, 2009 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz,

I found that on a site.

"Breakthrough in Astrological Fertility Research

If we can believe the ongoing press reports, (in)fertility will become one of the biggest and major health issues in the (near) future.

It's not only our way of living in an over-polluted environment full of unnecessary chemicals and toxic waste but also the way we handle our food and dietary habits that are the culprit.

According to a very convincing Austrian research study, confirming a lot of earlier research results, eating genetically modified foods will add to the (in)fertility problems.

Clearly, with genetically manipulated foods, one never knows what one eats and what the effects will be long-term. In matters of health, better safe than sorry.

Anyway, finding the most reliable periods of fertility may become handy in a world full of fertility-blocking influences. And that's where our research results may be very helpful indeed.

While our research is still ongoing before we are going to promote it on our web site, we are happy to post some important astrological factors and signatures that were found over and again in conception horoscopes. What we have found really is a leading thread and what we are doing now, before promoting it, is weighing all these factors and looking for a hiearchy to increase the reliability of the outcome.

Our findings are related to female horoscopes (later on we will analyze male conception horoscopes as well). We analyzed the natal horoscope of the women compared with the DAILY (transiting) positions of the planets during conception.

We used the following aspects: conjunction (orb 8°), semi-sextile (orb 3°), sextile (orb 6°), square (orb 6°), trine (orb 8°), inconjunct (orb 3°), opposition (orb 8°) and solstice points (antiscion and contrascion degrees: orb 1°). Note that we did not (yet) include the semi-square and sesquiquadrate.

Currently, only the major planets and bodies were used: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto as well as the Mean North Node of the Moon, the Mean apogee of the Moon (the Black Moon Lilith), the Pars Fortuna (changed by day/night).

We used the same bodies in our midpoint research in the 45° modus (8th harmonic) with a 1° orb.

In a second phase, we will add the major Asteroids, the TNPs (Trans-Neptunian Planets of the Hamburg School -- Uranian Astrology) and, hopefully some Arabic Parts too.

Our findings

In many astrological articles and textbooks about fertility and conception, you will read about the importance of the Moon. UNDOUBTEDLY this is true and we can confirm the importance of the transiting Moon in matters of fertility and conception.

HOWEVER, this is only a small (but nonetheless highly important) part of the whole story! The Moon NEVER ever stands or acts alone. Without the SUN, the Moon is nothing! The Moon is related to the Sun and we can confirm the importance of the link between the Sun and the Moon. Ancient/medieval astrologers knew it long before us: the Sun decides what the Moon will carry out. This is sooo true.

So, for now, the Sun and the Moon are related to conception but there still are other players at work too.

Venus is the other body that stands out way above other planets and bodies and is as important as the Sun and the Moon. Indeed, Venus and fertility go hand in hand. In all conception horoscopes we found aspects between the Sun, Moon and Venus.

Conception Indications

If you want to increase the odds of conceiving by knowing astrological fertile periods, take notice of the following important astrological indications:
the transiting Moon during conception is most often in the sign that can be found on the 5th house cusp in the natal chart. The Moon is NOT necessarily in the 5th natal house though! In some instances the transiting Moon is in the sign sextile the sign in which natal Venus can be found.
look for reciprocal aspects (and double whammies) between the 3 major fertility bodies (the Sun, Moon and Venus)
the transiting Moon builds one of the above mentioned aspects to the natal Sun
the transiting Moon builds one of the above mentioned aspects to natal Venus
the transiting Moon builds one of the above mentioned aspects to the natal Moon
the transiting Sun builds one of the above mentioned aspects to the natal Sun
the transiting Sun builds one of the above mentioned aspects to natal Venus
the transiting Sun builds one of the above mentioned aspects to the natal Moon
the transiting Venus builds one of the above mentioned aspects to the natal Sun
the transiting Venus builds one of the above mentioned aspects to natal Venus
the transiting Venus builds one of the above mentioned aspects to the natal Moon
very often, there is a double whammy between Venus and Mars even if this is NOT related to conception as such but rather to the sexual act (for example: transiting Venus aspects natal Mars AND transiting Mars aspects natal Venus)
For the moment, Moon-Venus aspects seem to be much more important than Sun-Venus aspects. We are still weighing the different aspects and combinations but this one already stands out and can be found in EVERY conception horoscope. So, there will be no conception if there is no Moon-Venus aspect (either transiting Venus to the natal Moon or transiting Moon to natal Venus).
Any midpoint combination in which the Moon, the Sun and Venus are involved is important (especially double whammies).
the transiting Sun in the sign of natal Venus and/or transiting Venus in the sign of the natal Sun
very often the (natal or transiting) Venus/Black Moon Lilith midpoint is aspected by the (transiting or natal) Moon. This transiting midpoint may also aspect the natal Ascendant.
transiting bodies aspecting the Moon, the Sun or Venus at 16° or 23° in a fixed sign (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius) may denote conception because there is some evidence that 16° and 23° in fixed signs are very fertile degrees. More research is still necessary though so don't take this as a given.
The signification of the Black Moon Lilith (often called the Dark Moon) is not yet clear. It seems Lilith plays a major part in fertility and conception though. Especially the Venus/Black Moon midpoint is very often indicated. More about the Black Moon as soon as we have researched this point more in-depth.

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I haven`t researched that subject myself, but maybe this interests you.

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posted April 29, 2009 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Putting this article aside, I would agree with Coffee and some others here on the importance on the 5th house and especially its ruler.

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