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GemGemGem
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posted April 24, 2009 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message

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Writesomething
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posted April 24, 2009 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
Aquarius moon makes sense if he was adopted. Not saying all aquarian moons are adopted but usually indicates instability with roots/family/mother. Unpredictable life. The exact moon/jupiter conj gives the instability some ease, and confirms being adopted by a foreign family. moon conj venus/jupiter really just saves him from the harshness the placements alone would do to a person. Saturn at 0 degrees cancer makes me sad, seems like a lot of people with this placement never start their own family, and come from painful childhoods themselves. I actually know another guy with saturn in cancer, and he was also adopted.
I would guess the birthday on file is correct.

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koiflower
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posted April 24, 2009 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
He has an interesting MC IC line, but then again, I guess we don't have his correct birth time.

Key words just looking at Cap and Aqua placements:

** loyal
** personal with expected morals from others
** can focus on tasks
** clever at problem solving
** is living overseas or will live overseas (NN)

I also wouldn't be surprised if you friend ended up working in a humanitarium agency, with their Moon, Jupiter and Venus conjunction.

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GemGemGem
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posted April 24, 2009 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
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Geocosmic* Valentine
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posted April 24, 2009 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi GemGemGem,

I want to double confirm that I'm seeing all the same things the Writesomething wrote.

Writesomething, you go girl!! Since you capitalized your "W" your already great skills are even more phenomenal.

One thing that's debatable, the Saturn in Cancer. I say "debatable" because it feels right, but lately I've seen some charts with Saturn in Cancer where the people have had children. One case in particular is "Octomom" with Saturn in Cancer in the 5th House of children. I remember when people were trying to guess her birth time, everyone was assuming she had Jupiter in the 5th House or Mars because most of the children were boys.

What it ended up showing was all of her gynecological problems that hindered her first attempts at having children. Several miscarriages and endometriosis, and other issues. She had tremendous perseverance and wanted children and she did everything in her power to get them. My thought is that if Gem's guy really wants a family, he can have one. He may have already worked off that Saturn in Cancer energy by already not having a "natural born" family of his own.

I say this in the spirit of situations in the past in astrology. Certain measurements that would have been certain death sentences for people in the past, now that medicine is more advanced, those same signatures will only suggest a difficult fight but can end in success.

I also understand that his Saturn is at 0 degrees Cancer and I think that's a very powerful spot and could call for extra fight for him to have children. I like to remember that Saturn doesn't just say no and block things, Saturn suggests strategy, planning, architecture and if he wants children, he will have to plan his actions, perhaps manage a team of medical therapists, etc.

Not only that, depending on what time he was born, his 5th House ruler could be in great condition and be of good help for him to have children.

OK, I'll stop because I'm getting tired of my own self.

I'll just end by saying, it's OK to debate this. The rest of what you found in the chart is awesome!

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GemGemGem
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posted April 25, 2009 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
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Glaucus
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posted April 25, 2009 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I wouldn't look at aspects to the Moon because the Moon moves on an average 13'10 per day.

I do wonder if outerplanets are aspecting the Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis. Neptune could fit with confusion about one's background. Pluto could fit with "unknown" background. I also strongly believe that the kuiper belt objects in hard aspect to the Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis could also indicate "unknown" background because they are all transneptunians. Once you get past Neptune, you get into "unknown" territory.


I have kuiper belt dwarf planet,Haumea square my Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis with only 3 minutes of arc, and I never knew my father's family nor my maternal grandmother's family. Therefore a lot of my background is unknown to me. My Neptune is in 3rd house 9 degrees from the Imum Coeli too, but it's in the 4th house if using wholesign house system. My older maternal halfbrother was adopted out. I have Mercury-Venus in Scorpio in 3rd house too.
My mother has Neptune in 5th and Moon in Scorpio in 5th.


it's possible Neptune or a transneptunian object in 4th house could be in synchronicity with being adopted.


Raymond


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GemGemGem
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posted April 26, 2009 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus, it's so interesting that you talk about Neptune in the 4th as an aspect for not knowing family roots because although I used the default 12:00 pm as a birth time which puts his asc in Pisces, I actually always suspected he was a Leo rising. I am also a Leo rising so I can recognize the energy. After what you said about Neptune in the 4th, I looked up his chart again with a Leo rising, and behold it put his Neptune right in his fourth!

The only thing that's throwing me off is that aqua moon and Venus. I can usually detect aqua energy from a mile away, and I just don't sense it from him. He feels Virgo to me for some really odd reason. It is actually driving me nuts. LOL.

Thanks for your input Glaucus! Much appreciated!

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