posted April 25, 2009 04:26 AM         

Technically I could regard this as a half-Saturn Return.

During my Saturn Return (15 years ago) I went through a painful breakup. During this Saturn transit, I'm being forced to look at relationships in an honest way again. It's really painful.

Have you encountered a similar situation in a half-Saturn Return with your Saturn Return? Whether good or challenging? I guess you have to be in your forties to be able to answer! LOL!!

p.s. my progressed Pluto and Uranus is conjunct transit Saturn by 1°, adding to the pressure cooker feel..!!!

posted April 25, 2009 05:05 AM         

After all, we're still (!) in contact - and he really started to "fight" for our thing, from my impression. He even suggested an "honest/serious talk" about all that - and managed to really admit and explain many things that had happened with us in the past. (All of that surprised me a bit - I got the impression that he REALLY wants to "change" things. There's a whole new "tone" in what he's saying and how he's saying it - and this "tone" has increased over the last 6-10 weeks.)

My impressions of his current mood would be sketched like this:

# definitely eager to "clean up" his closet, to erase misunderstandings - and he's a bit impatient with that, also not satisfied with supferficial talks and all - NOT really in a "joking mood"

# this obviously does not only go for our little personal (love-)story - but it seems to be about his personal position/place in life also. he just told me that he applied for a new job - which is quite a surprise - because he HAD changed his whole job just last summer! so ... after about 9 months ... he doesn't feel satisfied with this one anymore, obviously ... hm.

# when telling me about these new job-talks, he also alluded that the new job would be a very good thing, lots of money etc. included - but he alluded, that some of the people there don't want to have him - they wouldn't "trust" him, he alluded. so he'll have to go through additional talks next week ... in my impression: he craves that new job - but seems aggravated about this at the same time ...feels "pressured" by "wrong perceptions about him" in a way .. (?)

# going with that potential job-change is this: in his current position he is working with much younger people in a superficial "lifestyle climate", has to deal with dull and silly matters - even though he is the "boss" there. and he told me before, that he wants to work in more "serious" (intellectual) surroundings again. only ... this need grew enormous over a small amount of time, obviously.

# yeah - to me it seems as if he REALLY wanted to clean up his life, sort out the weed from the chaff (can you say so?) - and this seems URGENT to him - and he's not in the mood for compromises, currently ... and he might feel ... a bit alone on this.

Actually: From my perspective, watching him carefully and basically - and I like(d) him a lot - gosh, I love(d) him a lot! -... I do like what I see with him now. He's willing to change - or feels "forced to"? I do believe, that this has something to do with his feeling of "aging" too ... He wants to be in the appropriate "life position" now, being in his Mid-40s ...not "fooling around" anymore maybe ... this is a good thing. From my very personal perspective I see: he's struggling a bit - you better leave that man alone for a while ..;-) But he's on the right path! ;- Maybe this is some sort of exhaustive ... "turbo-evolvement" for him. With my sympathetic/emphatic view from afar, I'd say: This may be a time full of pressure - he is NOT satisfied with many things - he's especially wary about how people "see" him - he wants to be perceived in the RIGHT way - personally (with me, for instance) and professionally - he feels a need to rush into changes - but basically ... these changes probably will do him good, at the end.

posted April 25, 2009 05:47 AM         

The SATURN Cycles

Age 0 - 6/7. [1/4 SATURN cycle]
At birth the human child is totally dependent on it's mother, it's parents and others in it's immediate environment. At this age a human child cannot survive by itself. It will be at least 3 or 4 years after birth before the very smartest of children could survive by itself. This SATURN cycle is when all the basic survival skills and ethics should be taught to the offspring. ETHICS are different than MORALS.

Age 7 - 13/14. [1/2 SATURN cycle]
The child begins to really socialize during this SATURN cycle. Children also start to break away from the tight control of their parents. Most kids gain some independence and a few could survive by themselves well . The later part of this cycle is when a real sex education should begin, actually the earlier the better. The huge number of Teenage Pregnancies in the United States is utterly ridiculous and a social travesty.

Age 14 - 20/21. [3/4 SATURN cycle]
HORMONES! Puberty is the beginning of this SATURN cycle. The child normally grows to full adult size during this period and has to adjust to all the hormonal changes it's body is going through including the possibility of becoming a parent. Learning social skills and mental development is what Mother Nature has in mind for this time frame.

Unfortunately most adult humans are forever stuck at this age of development, both socially and intellectually. The proof of this assertion being the current worldwide social structure which is pretty much based on a Junior High School mentality, i.e. Insecure and possessive relationships dominated by a clique values.

Age 21 - 28/29. [1st Full SATURN cycle]
Near the end of this SATURN cycle a human being finally becomes a psychological adult, i.e. breaks away from it's parent's influences and really understands both responsibility and begins it's own life. A period when most people should begin their careers after an apprenticeship period. But instead many human beings are starting a family while they themselves are still too young to be responsible enough. It's really hard for any person to know who they really are until this cycle is over. The keyword is experience and it has many advantages.

Age 28 - 35. [1 1/4 SATURN cycles]
Most work very hard at their chosen careers and/or family's during SATURN'S second go-around. This SATURN cycle is the time when the majority should begin their family's, after their careers have "come together", the really smart people follow this pattern. But most actually started a family 10 years earlier. As the end of this cycle approaches some people begin to find a health problem or two. It is also a point in many peoples lives when they begin to realize that they have limitations.

Age 35 - 42. [1 1/2 SATURN cycles]
During this SATURN cycle is the point when a lot of people realize that their life is 1/2 over and if they want something in that LIFE, they had better do it soon or forget it. For men in particular as 40 approaches this has been the time when many seem to go into a second childhood [at least that's what is incorrectly thought by most people]. These people are just reaching for their true goals. Today women can use the same excuse to make significant changes in their lives.

Age 43 - 50. [1 3/4 SATURN cycles]
This SATURN cycle is the "minor" power and wealth age. Many corporate and political type individuals begin to achieve their goals but must watch their health. Go-getter's who are climbing the ladder of success sometimes die of stress related diseases at this point in their lives. Stress management is very important to all.

Age 51 - 58 or 60. [2nd full SATURN cycle]
This is the end of the second SATURN transit of the Zodiac and today it is also the life expectancy of some adults. It's the distinguished power age and the major wealth age. This is the point in LIFE where many make their highest achievements, that is unless you are a politician or entertainer.

Age 59 - 66. [2 1/4 SATURN cycles]
Many politicos become very successful during this SATURN cycle. The Distinguished years, a time to wield the money and power that a person has achieved. Another time to be careful about your health however.

Age 66 - 73. [2 1/2 SATURN cycles]
This SATURN cycle is the Retirement age for most people but not for some politicians who achieve their zenith during this period. A lot of folks plan to do those things they have always wanted to do during this interlude of their life.

Age 74 - 81. [2 3/4 SATURN cycles]
This SATURN cycle can be very rewarding for those who are healthy and lucky to be alive. Most of those left begin to experience fragility as their 80's begin.

posted April 26, 2009 05:15 AM         

watch out for viruses

posted April 26, 2009 06:07 PM         

Capricorn rules 12th. I didnt smoke at all, very anti-smoking. Didnt do drugs at that time. Did drink, but not like these young rebels on street corner.

posted April 29, 2009 02:30 AM         

Would the blasts from Uranus and Neptune be another story?

Peri - this is awesome information!! This is especially poignant re Age 14 - 20/21.....

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Unfortunately most adult humans are forever stuck at this age of development, both socially and intellectually. The proof of this assertion being the current worldwide social structure which is pretty much based on a Junior High School mentality, i.e. Insecure and possessive relationships dominated by a clique values.

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I'm inclined to believe this, based on general discussions with some folk. Did you know the typical script on tv is for an adolecscent mind? How many adults worship tv shows? That gives a great indication of an adult's mentality.

posted April 29, 2009 02:30 AM         

You say "I kid you not" and I totally believe you! I love it when people share these moments with others. It DOES happen!!!It's is liberating. It can open our eyes and offer us a new paradigm in which to view the world. Okay Saturn, I need your shaft of light to shine down on me and give me the answers (right now would be convenient)!!!

posted April 29, 2009 02:31 AM         

swirl-kitt - I'm afraid this is true of all life. However, the good news is that dying with no regrets is less painful and living with regrets means living with no dreams, so dream like there's no tomorrow!!