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lovegoblin
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posted April 26, 2009 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message
ok-i have never fully had this explained to my satisfaction.

If you have venus conjunct pluto and moon square pluto-would the pluto feel the obsession? Both are personal planets and yet i have heard that venus and moon will feel the obsession with pluto. Has anyone ever had an experience where pluto was obsessed with moon and it was one sided?

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posted April 26, 2009 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gabriella     Edit/Delete Message
Well think about it this way:

Natally people who have Pluto aspects with personal planets will experience those aspects with everyone in their generation. Most descriptions of these aspects say that this person will have obsessive relationships (if Venus square Pluto or Moon opposite Pluto) in general. It would make sense for the personal planet person to be obsessed with Pluto because that's how they are natally.

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blue moon
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posted April 27, 2009 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Well that makes sense as an explanation.

Check out also Quindeciles (165*) on the natal and the synastry. It could be interesting.

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posted April 28, 2009 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
I always think its stronger for the personal planet.

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Redstar
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posted April 30, 2009 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message
I think this question rivals that of "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" in it's ability to incite ongoing debates.
Here are my 0.02 cents worth of gab on the matter .

From personal experience, I have venus quindecile pluto natally, my partner has venus square pluto natally, and we have my venus opposite his pluto exact synastrically.

Who is more obsessed?
I think it's a mutually obsessive relationship.

I can't ever recall being in a relationship with someone who didn't have some sort of pluto-personal planet contacts coloring their chart, since I thinks it's a like attracts like principle at work here.

Saying that, I would presume that the obsession STILL went both ways, or was experienced by both parties in a case where a pluto-personal planet aspect was present between charts, simply because it's a two way energy exchange.

Maybe the personal planet person would display more 'active' obsessive qualities - as they are 'plutonized' by the other, and hence are bound to react and act out towards them in a manner that reflects their personal planet being stimulated by the pluto energy.

The pluto person would, by the very nature of pluto,(especially if it is very well integrated in their natal chart - by aspect,placement) experience obsessive and plutonian energies while relating to the personal planet person. But these would be a sort of deeper, more submerged and less 'active' obsessive traits. So you could say that the personal planet might 'appear' to be the more obsessed one.


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lovegoblin
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posted May 01, 2009 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message
that is the best way i've ever heard it explained redstar...

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Glaucus
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posted May 01, 2009 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
In a natal aspect, a personal planet/point aspecting an outerplanet, it seems that the personal planet/point is being dramatically modified by the outerplanet

I believe that even works with synastry

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posted May 01, 2009 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
I've been pluto conj and square other's venus and I was obsessed. I've been venus conj other's pluto and I was also obsessed.

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Redstar
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posted May 01, 2009 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message
Glad to be of help lovegoblin

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