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Topic: Basic synastry houses:
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Writesomething Knowflake Posts: 677 From: meet me in montauk Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2009 09:05 PM
( I didnt write this)1st house: You will feel a great personal identification with people of this sign and together you can develop projects common to both. A good sign for marriage. 2nd house: A relationship tied in with business, finances or financial aid is favored over a romantic one. The union offers stability and protection but could also be out of an interest in money. 3rd: You could maintain very good communication and an interchange of ideas. A mental or light relationship is indicated. 4th: A personal and intimate relationship in which deep emotions will be shared. A very good sign for marriage because it indicates the possibility of making a home together.
5th: A relationship of mutual love and attraction. You can enjoy and share many happy moments but difficulties exist in maintaining the relationship over time. Ideal sign for courtship or romance, not for marriage. 6th: An unequal relationship in which one offers more than the other. A difficulty exists in openly expressing feelings. A work relationship is favored over a romantic one. 7th: Ideal sign for marriage or associations. It is also possible that one of your best friends is of this sign. This is a sign of complements; each can have opposing personal characteristics and that generates attraction. 8th: Magnetic and intense attraction is indicated. Sign of passionate and uncontrolled romance based on a strong sexual attraction. A relationship that implies a dare or a strong emotional experience. 9th: A sign that represents a second marriage; a happier and more spontaneous relationship based upon the exchange of ideas common to both. One could assume a protective or teaching role with the other. Probability of an encounter in a foreign land or of long voyages together. 10th: A sign that stands out in your destiny. The people of this sign, both friends and lovers, will exert an important influence in your life. It is an ideal sign for marriage because it points out objectives and ambitions common to both, but it can also indicate too much worry over social status. 11th: Sign of friendship that represents common desires and fantasies. Open, friendly, happy and warm relationship, though probably it will not be lasting. If other common elements exist, it may lead to a marriage based on friendship and respect for each other's individuality. 12th: Karmic relationship initiated in previous lives. It is possible that you have to confront strong difficulties to be together and that it is a clandestine or secret relationship. Also, it can indicate an impossible or intriguing love affair. This sign is the least favorable for obtaining a happy and open relationship; if you are involved in one, it will be difficult for you to cut yourself off or escape because of doubts about your destiny and the lessons you have to learn. Remember the following: everything that she does to you is what you did to her in previous lives. It is good for you to practice the exercise of forgiveness and forget any negative emotions. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 04:04 AM
AS often I do not agree with the interpretation of the 2nd house; it`s interpreted in a very onesided way. Even though there is this sense of stability, security, protection and maybe even "posession", let`s not forget it is still a Venus house, the Taurus-house. It may not trigger all consuming passions in a house overlay, but it can trigger very warm, protective, sensual feelings. It`s also a very physical house in which touching each other (not necessairly in a sexual sense) plays an important role. Actually the physical feeling of the other person being near may either give you a feeling of security or in some cases stifle you.
Natally I have Moon in 2nd house, but I definitely am not about finances. For me this is more about the feeling of security that I definitely need, but emotional security (Moon), finding a balance between freedom and security (Moon is in Aquarius) and a definite tendency to indulge too much in things that make me feel good, physically feel good. I also realized that if people have planets in my 2nd house, there is an unusual urge to touch them or be touched by them, even though that is usually not my "thing".
Actually I have found this 2nd house overlay to be present in some relationships: 1. Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward His Moon and Uranus in her 2nd house Her Sun and Venus in his 2nd house Her Moon conjunct his 2nd house cusp
2. Johnny Depp - Vanessa Paradis His Moon in her 2nd house Her MC in his 2nd house 3. JOhnny Cash - June Carter Her Venus, Chiron and NN in his 2nd house I think IF other more romantic overlays are present the 2nd house overlay can actually be pretty positive.
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Writesomething Knowflake Posts: 677 From: meet me in montauk Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 06:25 AM
I agree with you DD. I think 2nd house is widely overlooked and theres a lot more depth to it. I enjoy people in my 2nd, and feel close to them, but maybe its because your moon is there. Like you my moon is there, so maybe its a moon thing that makes our experience subjective.IP: Logged |
bozena427 Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 06:37 AM
I know one woman: she is Capricorn with Scorpio ASC and Venus in 2nd: she has got a man, Scorpio with Taurus ASC and he is very rich. I am writing here about Venus in 2nd, in Natal. Almost all get rich partners (don't like poor men or women).
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Writesomething Knowflake Posts: 677 From: meet me in montauk Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 06:41 AM
Bo- interesting. Maybe its not because she has venus in 2nd house alone. I think having her DC in Taurus would show a rich partner. Ruler of her DC in the 2nd shows money from marriage partner.IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 07:01 AM
Ruler of 7th house in 2nd house would point to someone who needs to find security through relationship. One way to find such security is marrying a rich person. But it is only one possibilities. There are of course others.Writesomething, I think it`s very important where our planets fall natally; it will point towards the areas we may feel drawn to. In our case it`s Moon in the 2nd house. In my case Moon also rules the 8th house. So my 2nd house harbours some serious amount of passion actually and transformation. Actually I also have ruler of 2nd house in 8th house and both planets are exactly quinkunx each other. Certainly not an easy configuration, but the axis 2nd house - 8th house is p retty prominent for me I guess. IN some way they are inseparable; so maybe that is why I experience the 2nd house the way I do. IP: Logged |
bozena427 Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 07:07 AM
Hi WS,Yes, she has all planets so, that was sure she is going to get rich partner as also good looking partner. Not bad at all. IP: Logged |
bozena427 Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 07:16 AM
Hi DD,Moon, 2nd - 8th house connection: did you inherit some money from female persons? I had the Chart from one woman working in the bank: she has one planet in 2nd and 3 planets in 8th, what means she has three oppositions. As I am curious about money I have asked her, where her money is going to? She told me, she is saving it in the banks. 2nd to 8th! Very easy and very simple because she is working in the bank (they earn good money - for WS). IP: Logged |
Writesomething Knowflake Posts: 677 From: meet me in montauk Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 07:19 AM
I think Moon in the 2nd/8th shows money thru family or women or both. I save my money very carefully but I also spend like an idiot sometimes.IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 07:25 AM
No, no inheritance by female family members so far.I did inherit a little bit of money from my maternal grandfathr though. (BTW the maternal grandfather is found in the 8th house according to an astrology school, which puts mother in the 4th house (Moon-house) and father (Sun-house) in the 5th house.`) Yet, I must say, I am really not interested in monetary things. I only need money to provide me a secure base to live my life and do the things i enjoy. IP: Logged |
Writesomething Knowflake Posts: 677 From: meet me in montauk Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 07:34 AM
quote: Yet, I must say, I am really not interested in monetary things. I only need money to provide me a secure base to live my life and do the things i enjoy.
I agree with this statement although I do like nice things. I think our placement main focus is SECURITY. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 07:44 AM
Write, " think our placement main focus is SECURITY." That`s what I think, too.
This is psychological motive and ground, on which the 2nd house operates. Money is just an expression of that psychological need or urge. But you could also find that security, when a loved one is holding you. Or in a sharing of values. And so on. It hink it`s important to find the underlying "need" or "urge" of every house. The outward manifestations like inheriting money or building a house together or marrying someone are just expressions of that underlying need.
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Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 92 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 01:44 PM
True on the 2nd house. It is too Taurus-like.As I've always learned it, the 2nd house also stands for the physical body, so if anything, could a synastric 2nd house suggest a purely physical relationship? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 02:45 PM
Yes, 2nd house is VERY physically oriented, and it could point towards a physical relationship, BUT not the hot and steamy MARTIAN way, more in a Venusian comforting, sensual way. IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Wonderland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 03:03 PM
This thread explained my thoughts on Moon in the 2nd house. Some sites say it's the 2nd house and some say 3rd house. Techinically it's at the end of the 2nd house.My moon is the ruler of my DC and yes I may need sercurity in a relationship but I a am not into rich or status oriented people. If it's the 3rd house, well my 3rd house is ruled by Pisces and my 2nd house is ruled by Aquarius, what ever that means. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 03:06 PM
I agree about the "whichever house your moon is in"... mine's in my 3rd and l love peoples planets in my 3rd IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 04:34 PM
Very interesting about synastry and the 2nd house. I remember DD telling me once that the 2nd house can also represent the body. But then i'd read house overlay interps that said this is a poor placement for romance. So i never really understood, but i think what you've all said makes the most sense.Question: I have Uranus and Neptune in my 2nd house. From what i've read this is supposed to make me have financial problems? What are your thoughts...? IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 04:39 PM
Write,Do only certain planets apply to this? I mean, the Basic Synastry interpretations at the top, are they targeted to your personal planets only, or all planets? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 02, 2009 05:58 AM
Meta,Uranus and Neptune in 2nd would not necessarily point to financial problems. Check which houses they rule and if they have squares or oppositions to other planets. Uranus and Neptune in 2nd could indicate, though, that it is for you a real challenge, to find security (in yourself) and learn to value yourself.
I would place the main emphasis on Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, NN and ASC in the houses plus the ruler of ASC (and maybe the ruler of 5th house, 7th house, too). Also, I take a note of generational planets if they either rule important houses (like the 1st or 5th or 7th or 8th for relationships), are conjunct a personal planet or point or have a tight aspect to a personal planet in the other`s chart. Example: A girl`s Pluto is in a guy`s 5th house - usually I wouldn`t put emphasis on this, as Pluto is generational. Now, this Pluto is part of a bigger configuration. Her Pluto conjuncts his Mars and SN in his 5th house, which opposes his Moon and her IC and squares her Venus. Another example from the same synastry His Pluto is in her 8th house, as is everyones Pluto from his generation, BUT His Pluto opposes his own Venus, which conjuncts her Moon, so this Pluto is connected to two personal plants in both charts, so I would say it IS important. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 02, 2009 06:21 AM
Sadly I find that most websites are a bit superficial regarding the houses. But maybe I`m just arrogant. I think it`s important to understand which function lies beneath all outward manifestations of a house (2nd house of course can point to money or even materialism, but that`s not what it`s about underneath the surface).
I like to think of it as that:
2nd house is located in the physical quadrant (1st quadrant); it has to do pretty much with ME. It is a fixed Earth-house; earth also relates to the physical; physical meaning you can see the outward manifestation, the physical manifestation, and fix means you want to KEEP things, gather them, which is probably the reason, that a full 2nd house (especially with Moon in an appropriate sign) can point towards potential overweight or the opposite of it. You just don`t let go of anything you physically consumed (fixed earth). I really think the 2nd house has very much to do with what you value, with your securities / insecurities and how you manifest p hysically.
I also read that it indicates what you GIVE to a committed or at least deep relationship, while the 8th house shows what you receive, or what you want to receive by your partner, what you are looking for in a relationship.
That is how I can understand the 5th - 11th axis, too. 5th is about the feelings and love YOU give, and 11th house is the love you receive (which of course makes you have friendly feelings towards the other person).
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carl Knowflake Posts: 135 From: China Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 02, 2009 07:27 AM
Most of my planets are in houses 9-12. 9 - Sun, Pluto 9/10* - Saturn 10- Mercury 10/11* - Uranus 11- Venus, Neptune 12 - Mars, Jupiter Only one planet in houses 1-8 That would be 2/3* Moon What could this mean? That all my houses are bunched up like that? All of my planets were in "direct" motion too, as opposed to retrograde. *Denotes a planet at the end of one house going into the next. I guess varying sites will differ slightly in house placements. IP: Logged |
carl Knowflake Posts: 135 From: China Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 02, 2009 07:32 AM
Oh crap, I misunderstood sorry.IP: Logged |
MoonPixie Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 02, 2009 10:06 AM
Intriguing.The BF has: Scorpio Rising, Aries Jupiter in my 7th house. I have: Libra Rising, Taurus Jupiter in his 7th house. HMmMMMmmmMMMMMMmmMMMm.... IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 35 From: formerly Dulce Luna Registered: May 2009
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posted May 02, 2009 11:17 AM
quote: It may not trigger all consuming passions in a house overlay, but it can trigger very warm, protective, sensual feelings. It`s also a very physical house in which touching each other (not necessairly in a sexual sense) plays an important role. Actually the physical feeling of the other person being near may either give you a feeling of security or in some cases stifle you.
I agree with both you and Write. I think the second house is dreadfully underrated. Then again, I'm a sucker for Taurean energy. IP: Logged |
Kismet* Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 02, 2009 01:19 PM
DD, do you think that composite sun in the second house would be a good thing then?I always read it was only good for business etc. IP: Logged |