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bozena427
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posted May 01, 2009 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bozena427     Edit/Delete Message
Hi to all,

I know that you all celebrate, but I don't.
I am collecting all possible about Medical Astrology and there is a lot about that.
In mean time I look here and in Esoteric Forum at.

Here is one strange story about one female member in other Forum.

First her Natal Chart:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=esm7hj&s=5

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bozena427
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posted May 01, 2009 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bozena427     Edit/Delete Message
This woman is connected with the people committing suicide on different ways, mostly hanging themselves. I wanted to see her Natal Chart and to find solution, why all that is connected with her. Also in the houses, she lived and lives happen strange things: loss of electricity, loss of the water ect.
I know also that some people are afraid from the person they see first time. The other person has done something bad to her (him) in the past life.

1. Many years ago her first boy friend hanged him. She didn't see him for long time, so it is not in connections with her.

2. She has got the job that was meant for her colleague. The other woman hanged herself.

3. Her father has sold their house to one man. After, that man committed suicide with hanging himself

4. She has moved in one 12-appartment house, where somebody hanged himself in the loft.

5. Short before last Christmas, her colleague just pensioned jumped under the train and was dead. She thought about him short before he did it. The two had in common: Buddhism’s.

6. In the apartment she has lived last year, the man lived before her has committed suicide in the bathroom, hanging himself (how is that possible?).

7. Now she lives with her husband in the house where the first husband from the woman (she has rent the house) has killed him in the cellar. She has seen before that, there was something strange in the cellar.

8. Two years ago here nephew has jumped from the bridge, 193 m high and was immediately dead.

I am sorry about my writing: I have two areas in Astrology, I like:

1. Love and
2. Death.

I will try to explain, why all that. If somebody sees more, please join me.

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swirl-kitt
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posted May 01, 2009 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
Creepy stuff!

You should study criminal law.. Seriously I will have nightmares just by reading that !

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bozena427
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posted May 01, 2009 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bozena427     Edit/Delete Message
Hi swirl-kitt,

That is my dream for the next life: to work as crime police (woman) or detective.
I like also such a movies: like searching who is the murder?

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bozena427
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posted May 01, 2009 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bozena427     Edit/Delete Message
My first thought was that she has killed all those people: in the past life.

Past life is 12th house, ruler Jupiter (I have seen that Jupiter has more to do with death than Saturn) is just on the cusp of 7th (other people). Jupiter has hard aspects with Venus (young women or love), Saturn (older people), Chiron (doctors or something similar) and ASC.

If we look other people's death: it is 2nd house, ruler Uranus in conjunction with Pluto in 8th. She could be mass murder (my imagination is great) in the past lives.

Jupiter in Cancer, Moon rules the Cancer in the 1st house, Moon has only square with Venus: maybe she has killed all those people because of love?

POF in 8th with 2 hard aspects: now she is not very happy about all what happens around her.
I don't believe much as my POF between 10th and 11th gives me no good fortune neither in one of those houses.

Now I have enough of love and death.

You can go on. I would like to see comments, because something like that doesn't happen to many people and not very often.

Bo

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Aya_and_baby
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posted May 01, 2009 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
Hanging and throwing yourself under a train are the most common ways of committing suicide, so it is not really a surprise to see so many hangings among the ones who committed suicide.

What is notable, is the amount of suicides. Excluding the man her father sold the house to, because that relates to her father, not her, and would have an entirely different spot in her chart compared to all the others.

Then again, I noticed most of those cases are work-related. Could it be that everyone in the list killed themselves over work? In which case I'd be more inclined to look at the 6th house. And a bit far-fetched perhaps, but the moon's position in a turned chart to 6th house (being 1st, I'm sure you know what I mean) says a bit about what you're attracted to; my moon would be in 2nd and I've always been in jobs where money was a direct or indirect issue. I've either been in sales, even when I applied for a factory job I was put in sales, or stuck behind a till. Now I work in an accountacy office; again, involving money. Her moon would be in the 8th house from the 6th so perhaps she attracts people who kill themselves over work-related issues?


Like I said, a bit far fetched.

As for the water and electricity shortage in her houses; 4th house is ruled by taurus, venus is conjunct saturn so perhaps that's the cause. Although I have to admit for just electricity I'd be looking to Uranus, but water and electricity are household things, so belong to the home

Hope it made any sense.

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bozena427
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posted May 01, 2009 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bozena427     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Aya_and_baby,

First about electricity, water and some strange noise in the house: we don't have it here, where I live. Here are almost all new houses and such a things happen in old houses (mostly in England, where are dead people somewhere in the cellar).

This woman lives in the neighbour country. She writes about old houses.

About suicide people around her, I wrote she should go to the Regression and see, what was in her past life.

Bo

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belgz
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posted May 01, 2009 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
how about neptune opposing sun makes this person a compulsive liar.
I dont believe any of it.

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Aya_and_baby
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posted May 01, 2009 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Belgz!

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bozena427
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posted May 01, 2009 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bozena427     Edit/Delete Message
Hi belgz,

You are in new country, where didn't happen what happened in old Europe.
There are: Austria, Germany and many countries involved in the 2nd World war.
Here where I live, every month they find outside in the wood or field some dead people just one or two meter bellow earth surface. Those people were killed during and after 2nd World war (it depends, on what side they were).

Sometimes I think I would like to be archaeologist to find very old cities or even death people, but not from 20th century. How many dead people are still in some old houses cellars? I think, too many! I am scared from the houses done before 2nd world war.
I like more English palaces, because they were built thousand years ago.

Now, I have enough of dead people.

Wish you nice day,
Bo

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Aya_and_baby
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posted May 01, 2009 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
Australia isn't such a new country, you know...

It was inhabited by aboriginals first, then they were hunted down and made place for all the crooks of the english commonwealth, that was a few hundreds of years ago.

Even America has a history that goes further back than the colonisation of half of the continent. To think that those "new" countries are only new, I think is a mistake.


And besides, if Belgz has Scorpio 3rd house, that suggests a very good bs radar. So she (right? Or is it he?) might actually be on to something.

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pire
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posted May 01, 2009 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
You are in new country, where didn't happen what happened in old Europe.
There are: Austria, Germany and many countries involved in the 2nd World war.
Here where I live, every month they find outside in the wood or field some dead people just one or two meter bellow earth surface. Those people were killed during and after 2nd World war (it depends, on what side they were).

i live in france and this is ******** . nothing of this is right; amowls i think u are wrong. i doubt this is buena. this is someone who doesn't live in europe.

im with belgz on that one.

(praecipua)

edit: buena speaks good english too;

edit 2 : i posted further down. when i wrote this first post, it didnt occur to me that buena and bozana were the same because i still believed buena to be a genuine knowflake... whatever that means.

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Lara
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posted May 01, 2009 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
She could have a spirit in her aura of a hanged person and so now she's attracting it... I am almost certain she has a spirit but l don't want to look too closely

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bozena427
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posted May 01, 2009 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bozena427     Edit/Delete Message
Hi pire,

I am still here and I am in Europe. I am ex-Buena.

You should come to us and see, what they do after so many years. They are looking now, where to find dead people killed after the war. We are between Austria and Croatia. Some of them have escaped from Croatia (they were on other side) and were killed here on the way to Austria and then maybe to South America, as many of them have escaped just there.

It is true! I have no reason to lie.
Why they do all that, I don't know.
Some people from here were also on the side of Nazi's and were killed, after the war was over.

I live in Europe, where should I live?
Even if I would go away, I would go to the Spain only.

p.s. Thank you for compliment about my English!


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bozena427
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posted May 01, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bozena427     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Aya_and_baby,

I know enough about Australia. I was working in tourism and have met many friendly tourists from there. People from here want to go there, because there is some kind of freedom. You don't have neighbours to be afraid of them, like we do here.
Even if there is European Union, many people don't like each other. In my ex-country everybody hates everybody.

I like Esoteric and all those stories about ghosts in the old houses. Most of them are in palaces, they are old and there are dead people in cellars. It is normal that there are some ghosts, what you can't find in some new house.

This woman is from Austria and there are also old palaces and houses. We don't have so many as they were destroyed in 2nd World war. I personally like older house than new, because has its spirit as Lara says.
Here, on the coast are very old stone houses, what I like very much. The older, the better!. I should be archaeologist and then would go around, where is possible to dig very deep and find all possible, even some small cities. (and maybe, gold!).

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scorpiomatt1111
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posted May 01, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiomatt1111     Edit/Delete Message
hey can any of u guys help me out? i asked my aunt to but she said to come here cuz this site knows more about this stuff.

im kinda into astrology and im a scorp. the moon and sun are both fixed signs right now and they are affecting my mood. why? i havent been feeling myself lately and i read a horoscope yesterday and it said that the moon and sun are making me not so flexible... why??? i feel like **** and i need some answers. help please.

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pire
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posted May 02, 2009 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
buena, tu m'avais dit que tu apprecié le francais, c'est vrai n'est-ce pas? donc tu n'aurais pas de probleme a me prouver que tu es reellement buena simplement en me disant quelques mots.

buena, si c'est toi, excuse moi, mais j'etais persuadé que quelqu un se faisait passer pour toi. a vrai dire, jecommence meme a douter de la sincerite de buena. certain me trouveront surement paranoiaque... jusqu'a ce qu'ilsadmette que j'ai raison et qu'ils voient que tu t'es foutu de la gueule du monde.

alors?

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posted May 02, 2009 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, you wanna talk 'old'? Come to Egypt sometime, where I was born. There are ghosts of ghosts wandering around. If there were ever an over-populace of spirits, it would be Egypt ...or India....to name a few
If you live in a really 'old' place, it's almost past the point of ghosts somehow.

I know this is Buena. I don't know what the big deal is. But I guess if you don't believe it's her, then whatever.

Anyway, that's some creepy stuff. The woman's 12th house ruler (Jupiter) conjuncts her 7th house, sooooo I guess mysterious stuff hits on a personal level and she is intimate with it somehow. An Neptune in the 10th. Weird, other-worldly stuff is part of her career?!

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posted May 02, 2009 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
hey pire,

I am sure Bozena is Buena, they have the same style, just read Buena's previous posts and you will see it is the same person, so
maybe you are really a bit paranoid

do you have your chart posted somewhere I'd love to have a look at it if you don't mind of course

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posted May 02, 2009 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
is this what you mean bozena?
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Deibler%2C_Louis

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Historic:_Lethal_Injection

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posted May 02, 2009 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I was born here and we have been here for many generations. also I travel quite frequently to europe and my dad is German so I am aware of how those countries are.

It sounds like rubbish to me. Its over the top and after making that assumption i looked to see if this person looks like he has a chart of someone who would deceive people.

He has neptune opposing mars and sun.

Mars is the ruler of his 3rd house (communication)

Venus is also situated in the 3rd house and it makes a square to jupiter.

Moon in 1st house can change according to the tides.

And no offence bueana some of your stories about ur friends are very drastic and dramatic.

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pire
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posted May 02, 2009 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
peri, i could be paranoid, true, but i checked previous thread from buena, especially bzecause in one of them where i believed him/her to be a sincvere person i gave a very long post, trying to give her confort. so i got abused by BUENA36 myself, i thought she was genuine.

but, what made me realise what that amowls said she new for a fact that bonanza was buena. how? i'd like to know how can she be so sure buena was a genuine knowflakes?

look carefully at the posts of buena, you'll see how she remain very evasive on subjects. talking about perople suffering, first it's a friend, then herself. when geocosmic valentine, after having given hera lenghty support, like myself and oneruledbymars, in the following thread started by buena, geo asked buena how was her friend. but she couldn't say, and remained evasive.

i've been taken for a fool by buena, and bonanza is probably the same person than buena. ok with that. but doesn't make buena any more genuine.

paranoid ok....


having said that my life is complicated at the moment and i cant be bothered to open people's eyes. i just thought i had to express my views.

now, if you can prove me that buena is genuine, i leave this forum to have stirred up **** . if not, then u might reconsider to call me paranoid.

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pire
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posted May 02, 2009 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
sorry if i'm actually playing the game of those trolls and stir up cr@p. justmia told me to let go of this, so whatever happen, i'll do that.

not my problem anymore. but don't be surprised if the only threads coming up are talking about everything under the sun except real astrology.


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pire
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posted May 02, 2009 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
peri you wont see my chart.

guys, if it is enough to say "thank you" and be extremely polite to be taken seriously i'm out of here.

this is toooooooo politically correct for me.

truth, not niceness.

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Peri
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posted May 02, 2009 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
there there, no need to get defensive, I did not mean to offend you sorry if I did

P.S. probably you should turn to lalalinda?

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