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listenstotrees
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posted May 04, 2009 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are they?

Was Linda right about the Venus and Pluto?

Or is the truth much broader than a couple of planets?

Can anybody point me in the right direction?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNEbDN985dk

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Lara
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posted May 04, 2009 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Listens
hope you are well.

From what i hear (and l could be wrong) it's AC/DC conjunct or opposition, NN contacts, NN/valentine, pluto/peresphone or proserpina and a few more l don't remember.

Hopefully DD or someone will come along

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Glaucus
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posted May 04, 2009 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ummmmm

I have to disagree with Linda Goodman even though I respect her has an astrologer

My Pluto is conjunct my maternal uncle Eddie's Venus exact to the minute.

I don't feel like he and I are twin flames.

There is definitely no sexual attraction!

Raymond

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carl
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posted May 04, 2009 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to marry two twin flames, is that possible? Because the depth of emotions and mental stimulation from just one twin flame simply is not enough for my growing needs and desires.

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Lara
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posted May 04, 2009 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Carl

If you are going to outgrow them, then are they twin flames?

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katatonic
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posted May 04, 2009 03:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what a gorgeous video! i think the jury is out on whether you can see twin flames in horoscopes or not...

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Lara
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posted May 04, 2009 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Katatonic, how are ya?

I can't reply to your myspace msg cos my inbox has some problem they are fixing (or have been for the past 3 wks now) zzzzz
useless they are!

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DD
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posted May 04, 2009 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don`t think you can see Twinflames in a synastry chart.


But I think you may be able to spot complimentary soulmates (or the potential) in a chart.


Actually I feel that in those kind of complimentary soulmates, Other halves - connections, there will be a lot of complimentary aspects in natal and synastry.


Like one may have Sun-Pluto, the other have Moon-Pluto-aspects or placements and so on.
And those would be reflected in synastry, too.

Another thing I would look out for are antiscias / contrascias; mirrordegrees.


Also conjunctions to the IC, as the bottom of oyur soul.


On top of that ASC-DSC is ALWAYS present with strong aspects I think.


And then I would also look for "asteroid-couples" like Pluto-Persephone, Adonis - Inanna or even Aphrodite, Isis-Osiris and so on.


But even if everything is there, it doesn`t need to imply that those people are twinflames.
It would imply, though, that they have very complimentary energies in their personality, Yin and Yang so to speak.

List is not complete btw. I was just writing as the thoguhts came; and I am beginning to feel Mercury retograde, so do not expect me to be coherent or clear.

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Lara
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posted May 04, 2009 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good list DD

Can i add NN/valentine and eros/psyche

EDIT: which mirror aspects do you count please?

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DD
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posted May 04, 2009 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NN / Valentine I`m not so sure about anymore. I know that IQ favours this aspect, but I have spoken to some people who had that aspect in a synastry, yet definitely weren`t twinflames.

Eros - Psyche, sure, they are complimentary.

I count the normal mirrordegrees, solstice points or antiscia / contrascia - you know we`ve been talking about them.
But orb has to be pretty tight; 2° AT MOST.
Have an exact antiscia-conjunction and you will never really know what hit you. lol
Even though it doesn`t really "hit" you, it kind of sneaks up on youand you donīt understand why you are so connected.


I`m still not completely sure about mirrordegrees, but they are worth the observation.

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Lara
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posted May 04, 2009 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

I think DW NN/Valentine is potent. In fact when LL was down i found it in dw in tight orb in almost all the classic synastries, long-term marriages of family and in those l know who have a love till death kind of relationship.

I have NN/valentine DW across the entire board with gun man and l feel so different in this one. It's like nothing before. I'm sure it's this aspect but l totally dig that you are not sure. I might just be a very close soul mate aspect.

When you say exact aspect of solstice do you mean sol/sol or sol/n please?
I ask cos i have 6 exact conjuncts with gun man:
My sol mars conjunct his n ac (0)
His sol AC conjunct my n mars (0)
My sol karma conjunct his n NN (0)
His sol NN conjunct my n karma (0)
My sol valentine conjunct his n psyche (0)
his sol psyche conjunct my n valentine (0)

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vesta
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posted May 04, 2009 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD, who feels the aspect with point of antiscia?

The natal planet person or point of antiscia person?


I looked at the charts of me and (GC)
my antiscia NN on his natal moon exact
and
his antiscia moon on my natal NN exact his antiscia uranus on my natal venus exact
and
my antisicia venus on his natal uranus exact

His antiscia IC on my natal IC exact.

haven't yet looked at asteroids interesting to see what pops up!

Well that explains it
My antisicia eros on his natal sun exact.
didn't see that one comming!

His antiscia sun exact on my natal eros!

his natal eros is opp my natal juno, venus and ASC and conjunct my natal uranus, DC

- Natal -
I also found we have the rulers of his ASC and my ASC in aspect (DW) and the Ruler of his ASC in aspect to the ruler of my DC (DW)
node square node
sun/venus interchange
I have the ruler of his DC and IC conjunct his ASC.
and each others names conjunct IC

Lara, He and I have valentine in aspect to each others vertex (DW) So, the node like you mentioned may have some signifigance

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Kismet*
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posted May 04, 2009 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD what do you make of my guy's Antiscia of the Sun conjunct my Mars (ruler of my 7th house). Less than 1 orb

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listenstotrees
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posted May 04, 2009 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think all relationships are deemed to fail or become jaded and old....nothing lasts....all we can do is love ourselves.

We only get to meet our twin flame apparently, when we don't need one.
http://www.heartflamepublishing.com/twinflamephysics.html

Maybe its all just a dream; none of this is real.

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Tigerlily
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posted May 04, 2009 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
listenstotrees, here's a little inspiration:

Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward lasted, married for over 50 years until he died.

Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash lasted. After several years of ill health, he died of complications from diabetes on 12 September 2003, only a few months after the death of his beloved wife.

Jessica Tandy and Hume Cronyn lasted, married 52 years until she died.

Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick have been married for 21 years and are still going strong.

Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson have also been married for 21 years and are still going strong.

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posted May 04, 2009 11:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How weird..maybe Im psychic or something but when I saw those names I thought I bet there all cancers, and sure enough the last 4 have 1 partner with cancer sun.

On another note~ just because they seem perfect to everyone else, doesnt mean they were twin flames, or whatever. Just could mean they were capable of lasting commitment to one another. Staying together forever doesnt mean youre twin souls.


I dont know if I even believe in twin souls, soulmates, what not..and I defintely dont think you can pinpoint it with astrology and even if you could, it would be difficult to say if anything would happen. I believe in strong deep aspects between 2 people, but trying to pinpoint a specific HEAVY title like soulmate never works.

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DD
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posted May 05, 2009 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

I don`t have much time, just wanted to say something about the VAlentine / NN-aspect.
I don`t doubt, that it`s a very loving and beautiful aspect, but it`s not THE aspect (which doesn`t exist anyway imo).


Unlike you I haven`t found it to be prominent in such "till-death-to-us-part" or suspected soulmate relationships.

On the other hand I remember having a DW-conjunction of Valentine and NN with a particular musical actor.
Now, I DO like him as an actor and he has a very pleasant "style", but he certainly is not a soulmate of mine. lol

I also had that Valentine / Vertex-dw with another guy, and nope, no soulmates either.


So, I`m sorry I can`t confirm your or IQ`s findings in this case.

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vesta
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posted May 05, 2009 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
writesomething,
some us have had the unique pleasure of finding a soulmate and your right that does not mean they are ment to be together. I have proof that a specific person is a soul brother and that information came from my angel and God. I can see the links in our charts. I felt it instantly when I saw his eyes, However we are not ment to be this time around and I am fine with that. But I love searching for the clues of what we were/are about as brother and sister. I hope that one day you are able to experience this wonderful and unique experience of love of that magnitude,
I was skeptical about soulmates until it happened to me.

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um thanks for assuming I havent had deep connections because I dont believe in the term. Ive had a connection that most would call "soulmate connection" but Im not naive about love nor am I the type to get sucked into a term that is way overused nowadays.

I dont buy into the hype.

Do you or I have all the answers? No.

All I see is the words soulmate, twin souls, and honestly makes me sad. How about just enjoying what you have without the labels? How about not worrying about it?
Feeling it is amazing enough.

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DD
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posted May 05, 2009 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think, you`re right, Writesomething.

In the end all that matters is that you love someone, and not to "label" that love.
That doesn`t mean "soulmates" do not exist (I believe they do), but we shouldnīt get too fixated about those terms.

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posted May 05, 2009 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having said that I will probably go on and seek for clues in the charts that may explain or describe such a deep bond, that some call soulmates, and some call deep love, nevertheless.

I just think if something resonates that deeply within you, it SHOULD be reflected in the astrology. If not, what use is it to do astrology?
If astrology doesn`t reflect at least part of our life and psyche, then it`s just a waste of time.

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posted May 05, 2009 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had the pleasure and pain of having a couple of soulmates. Maybe even a twinflame.
I'm not really that excited at the prospect of finding someone who 'completes' me, because I feel pretty complete and mostly happy as a person (even though I'm by no means perfect lol).

I am always curious when I look at charts and astrology for indicators of potential, but in many ways I cannot buy it completely that there are any aspects....I've had those special aspects with a lot of people, and while they were special, they weren't really soulmate material (as in ZING! though the heart). So I wonder.

And I do agree with Writes, that just because people stay married/together doesn't mean they are soulmates or even happy. They just committed to staying together...lots of unhappy people do that too. And lots of soulmate and twinflame relationships don't last.

I think with the way each individual chart works, the feeling of a soulmate differs from person to person, which is also maybe why there's no solid answer astrologically for one and all.

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posted May 05, 2009 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD, I think you're right, astrology should show something. It's just hard to say for certain what constitutes it from person to person to give an answer for sure.

However, I still enjoy learning and experimenting, because it's enjoyable...and you never know

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posted May 05, 2009 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...oh, and the Pluto/Persephone thing, btw, is a very good theory.

However, I will say that Chiron/Venus is strong as well. Especially if the Chiron person has natal ties to Chiron in their own chart I think (I have an exact conj to my moon). But I will say, it hurts like hell. It is LOVELY and yet really, really painful. The conjunct (tight) was a lovely sort of murder for me.

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Lara
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posted May 05, 2009 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can so tell the soulmates from the normal, unhappy marriages though, don't you think?

My mother and her husband have been married for 31 years now and they have never spent a night apart, eat every meal together, walk arm in arm down the street and are totally in love!!

Yet they have appalling synastry lol

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