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Ruben
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posted May 13, 2009 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How problematic would Sun square Sun be in synastry? I see it as a major negative aspect since it means that the very identities of the persons are in conflict. But some of the descriptions I read suggest that it involves a level of romantic attraction as well, even if not harmony or understanding.

Do you think other significant positive aspects can override the nature of this one?

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AscTaurus
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posted May 14, 2009 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, just to add my experiences of a Sun square Sun apsect. It is a very tricky aspect indeed.

I am currently sharing an apartment with someone whose sun squares mine exactly and I tell you that the way we relate is suprising.

The guy is a Virgo and I am Sagittarius.

-Firstly we are both mutables and this is the point of reference.

The mutability, as far as he is concerned, is his ability to be flexible and conversational.

Our lives are pretty separate but he always has a story to tell that is both weird and fascinating all at once.

I've noticed that if we should have an argument/ disagreement where he/I explode, there is often residue "tension" between us until the dispute has been resolved.

Usualy I'll laugh anout how ridiculous I acted or he'll say something like " I didn't mean it, don't take it personally."

He claims not to be a grudge-bearing individual and not sensitive, but I disagree. If something is bothering him, he wont be able to strike up a peppy " Good mornin dude, do you know what I got up to yesterday?" in the morning.

At times he does irritate me and claims that I am moody(couldn't agree more) and so when he wants to say something to me he often starts with something like"Okay, I know that I am irritating you with this but I don't care. I want to say that......"

Its not bad living with him at times as he is not a pushy,demanding individual(I think that has to do with his mutable quality).

So when the dishes are not done, I don't fret and call an inquistion and neither does he; whomever wants to wash the dishes can and they'll be no silent treatment by the other individual who feels that they are cleaning up after the other.

The worst though is when I get emotional and passionate about something and he takes a very cold/logical view:

Me: "Why did you play the music so loud at 2:00 in the morning?"

Him: "Well, I didn't know that I was playing the music that loud because from my room I didn't think it was that loud.Why didn't you say anything to me(shifting the blame)".

Me: "Dude, I shouldn't have to get up and tell you that playing music at 2:00 am in the middle of the week is unreasonable. Who does that anyway?"(fuming!!)

Him:" No, don't blame me for your mood. You chose not to sleep. You could have gotten up and told me that the music is too loud and I would have gladly reduced the volume..."

Me: "Ok(calming down), fine; I should have made an effort to let you know how I feel instaed of brooding until 6:00am but you should take the responsibility and stop shifting the blame to me if you were wrong.

Him: "I didn't say that I am not taking any blame for you not being able to sleep but hey, maybe next time you'll know better then to just sulk all alone and then snap at me in the morning.

Me: "There wont be a "next time". Do you understand me? Not ever!"

And so the conversation goes....at times I get irritated with him for no particular reason. That could also be because we are living together...I don't know.

Our moon signs are also square:

Mine: Cancer.
His: Aries.


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Ruben
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posted May 17, 2009 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, since your moon signs are squares, and especially since your moon is in aries, I can see why you'd have difficult processing situations in a similar way and why he would react in a less emotional way.

Overall, it doesn't sound like a very challenging situation. It seems to be based mainly on temporary tension and minor irritation. But maybe that's because of other positive aspects making up for the Sun square Sun?

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mblover
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posted May 17, 2009 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes Ruben.. if you see Sun Sq. Sun..quickly check Sun Moon aspects.. and then Moon Moon aspects and then Rising to Sun/Moon aspects..

Let's say a couple has a Sun Sq. Sun.. but if the same couple has a Sun conj. Moon.. it is one of the best aspects that will contribute to a good compatibility factor.

Obviously, entire chart should be looked at.. even a small aspect such as Merc Conj. Jupiter does positive wonders in some relationships.


Also notice, if you see all Sextiles and all Trines... the synnastry could rather be more difficult than the standard theory.

Some Squares or Opposite energies are needed to keep the Spice and Fun in relationship.

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Canadiangirl
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posted January 14, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its really amazing what other aspects in the chart can help the sun square sun. One of my closest friends (we've known each other for probably 10+ yrs) have this but also a lot of venus contacts. I think the venus contacts even help our mars square saturn! We *rarely* fight.

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LionFish
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posted January 14, 2014 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also remember, Sun sq Sun puts together a Yin/Yang companionship.

The problem here is that people are not "just" their Sun Sign. It's possible that the Yin Sun person is actually Yang dominant throughout the rest of their chart which would make it difficult for them to play the "feminine" role to their Yang sun partner/friend. That could cause fights and dominance issues.

Look to your Moons and your Mercuries. What does Venus do in both your charts? Having compatible Venuses can easily give you common ground to stand on because you both value and appreciate similar things. Moon and Mercury compatibility makes it easier to understand and respond to the other's way of feeling and thinking..

Sun sq Sun is not a tell all. It actually shows a balance of sorts (with the Yin/Yang), but people sometimes confuse "balance" with "easy". They are not the same thing.

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