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From: formerly cakes of the heart
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posted May 14, 2009 03:12 AM         

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i know someone who is psychopathic. shows no remorse, no moral code, is completely controlling, cruel and, i would say "evil" (and i rarely say this about people). she has attempted murder several times as well. she needs to be in control at all times but she does so in very covert ways. her exterior persona is that of a sweet, fun-loving, happy go lucky type, which makes it all the more creepy.

i just checked her chart again and realized her mars is 29 pisces. could THIS account for this type of personality?

Scheat * 29° Pisces 22 Imprisonment, murder, suicide, drowning, extreme misfortune

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From: richmond va
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posted May 14, 2009 03:23 AM         

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Well crap I have Venus at 29 Pisces.

I don't think one planet alone can determine whether someone is crazy or murderous.

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posted May 14, 2009 03:26 AM         

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I knew someone with Mars at 29 degrees pisces, pisces rising,and 29 sun taurus...he also had moon conj pluto in the 8th, and he was a pvssy cat.

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From: formerly cakes of the heart
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posted May 14, 2009 03:33 AM         

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haha well obviously not everyone with that degree's gonna be a murderous lunatic!! it just seemed EERIE to me..

i'll post the chart. maybe someone can pick out where these tendencies are shown..

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From: Wonderland
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posted May 14, 2009 03:34 AM         

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Sounds like my Libra cousin lol. On a more serious note can you post her chart for us?

Edit:Whoops nvm see it.>.>;

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From: formerly cakes of the heart
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posted May 14, 2009 03:35 AM         

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kay it finally worked.

oh, she MAY be an aries rising (born an hour later), i forget. it was one of two times, but i think pisces suits her more; very chameleon like and a very good actor. also looks it, kinda.

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From: formerly cakes of the heart
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posted May 14, 2009 05:26 AM         

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i'm wondering about mars exactly opposite jupiter and the lack of cardinality. i found this about it: Lack of Cardinal: observing, being without doing, passive, or: substituting with external challenges.

her violent rages seem to correlate to feeling rooted in victimization, which possibly would explain the strong pisces/mars emphasis. capricorn moon needing to be in control and shut off from emotions, and maybe is overcompensating for lack of cardinality elsewhere? also, no aspects to moon other than sextile venus in scorpio (which is square chiron and uranus which are in opposition; erratic emotions and deep woundedness are connected). i am not sure what an almost unaspected moon means, though. and oh my goodness, that is one active chiron!

hmm, any other thoughts? i'm not confident enough in my abilities to know if i'm made much sense, so i'm curious what anyone thinks!

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posted May 14, 2009 06:00 AM         

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Pisces rising would fit with what you wrote, despite not knowing the full accurate time.

It has house 1 and 12 rulers in square. House 12 can indicate drugs, illegal activity.

In general, for crime comitted, I would look at the 12th ruler and see what it badly aspects. You mentioned attempted murder, which is Pluto. Venus should represent violence/fighting.

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From: formerly cakes of the heart
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posted May 14, 2009 06:19 AM         

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interesting about the rulers being squared! well the time is either this one or exactly one hour later, but i'm 90% sure it's this one.

how does venus represent violence and fighting though?

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posted May 14, 2009 06:28 AM         

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Dont know if it is, just making a logical guess.

7th house to represent war, which in turn to represent violence. I guess the natural progression after war is death, for many.
7th-8th.

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posted May 14, 2009 06:45 AM         

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Are these points relevant?

1)Her Ascendant is Second decan Pisces, so her ruling planet is the Moon (if the birth time is correct).

2)T-Square between Mercury, Mars and Jupiter (Houses 1, 7 and 9).

3) Grand Trine in Fire elements of Mars, Satun and Uranus (Houses 1, 5 and 8).

4) Have you investigated transits, which may set her off? Especially lunar transits.

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