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Topic: Node Reversal synastry
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Ruben Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2009 09:43 PM
Is this aspect as difficult as it is described?Are there any other aspects that can balance it out? For example, in my case her NN trines my Sun and my Venus while my NN conjuncts her Venus. Are these contacts signficant enough to reduce the negative impact of Node reversal? IP: Logged |
origami_salami Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Arizona Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2009 11:28 PM
I wouldn't say this is a difficult aspect, actually -- but definitely a karmic one. Essentially, both people have been where the other person is headed, and therefore can offer valuable guidance to each other, helping one another fulfill their potential in this lifetime. The main trouble that could occur would be if the partners insist on going arm-in-arm along the same path, in the same direction... then there would be the sense that one person is holding the other back.It's kind of like two people are running the same marathon, but one person's finish line is the other person's start line. If they meet halfway, they can tell each other what the rest of the path is like, how to get around obstacles, what to expect... etc. So a nodal reversal could be a very strong, helpful aspect so long as both people are willing to let each other go their own way. As for other aspects -- I honestly don't think aspects apart from conjunctions/oppositions to the nodes do much, so I wouldn't say the NN/sun and Venus trine would be very significant. But certainly your NN on her Venus is a powerful pull to form a union and learn relationship lessons from her. IP: Logged |
Virgovenusleo Knowflake Posts: 251 From: unknown Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 12:06 AM
Ohh venus north node contacts lovers in this life?IP: Logged |
Ruben Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 12:18 AM
origami_salami, I like your description of the aspect. I didn't really look at it that way, but I suppose it's true and it could be efficient depending on how they combine their attitudes and complement each other.Virgovenusleo, yes, it's suspposedly the lovers aspect. But as far as I know, only the NN person feels the pull... IP: Logged |
origami_salami Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Arizona Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 01:59 AM
"Ohh venus north node contacts lovers in this life?"Not always lovers, as Venus also rules enemies I've actually seen Venus/N. Node contacts between people who vehemently hate each other, though sometimes, after being arch nemeses for a while, they mature and become great friends. This aspect just shows that a lot can be learned from having some sort of close relationship with each other. If other elements, like physical attraction and compatible ages, are in place, then it does often indicate lovers. Though it doesn't indicate how long the union will last; just that it will bring growth of some sort. IP: Logged |
Alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 275 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 09:20 PM
quote: Venus also rules enemies
That's a very refreshing perspective on Venus, ORIGAMI SALAMI (<and a hilarious name!!!;-)) No, really: I once had "his" Venus cj. my Pluto ... and the "enemy"-factor came into play strongly.;-) Actually, that expereince made me wonder whether Venus also has some "not so nice" features. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 2242 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 09:24 PM
When one node is conjunct, the other opposes, which is good and bad. Complementary, yes.When one node is conjunct, or even the other node conjuct, the node will square the composite node. Better options out there. IP: Logged |
Ruben Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 06:30 PM
Alvarella777, wow, Venus - Pluto really does have negative potential anyway since it's an all consuming connection, the kind that is associated with dark intensity. I'm not surprised at all.IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 2242 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 06:42 PM
Yeah, its should balance the opposite nodes. Its worth checking the house/sign both are in. You could have n.node in Aries in the 7th. Your partner could have n.node in Libra in the 1st. Complementary, but a repeat of the relationship between partner and partner. Could well be some clashes along the way.I guess a sextile of nodes is best. The composite nodal return would have a semi-sextile with both individual natal nodes. A natal nodal opposition for one person gives a trine to the other person. IP: Logged |
Ruben Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 08:06 PM
What if the Nodes are in different signs and different houses? For example, this person's NN is in Cancer, in the 9th while mine is in Aquarius, in the 2nd. Would the standard definition for Node Reversal still apply?IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 712 From: Registered: Jun 2016
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posted May 31, 2009 12:35 PM
With a guy I'm very attracted to and have a complicated relationship with, we have Node Reversal Synastry...my NN in Sagittarius in my 12th house opposes his NN in Gemini in his 9th house (1 degree.)I was thinking lately how I'm so envious of him--he's so good at seizing the moment, being happy and optimistic, living in the present, and experiencing each day as a big, enlightening, momentous adventure. I decided to check out our synastry, and I noticed this Node thing...so of course I am envious! He is well-developed in exactly the areas I will be happier when I develop!! We also have his NN square my Jupiter and his Jupiter conjunct my NN. I have learned A LOT in this relationship very fast, and by "learned" I don't mean bad stuff, but really good stuff. I feel like I've watched him use his energy and I've learned to better activate my own personal power. However, I think that in a longterm, committed romantic partnership (which this is not, though I think there may be potential, but there are lots of different directions our connection might go) the Node reversal could be really tricky, although I think an NN-NN conjunction could be even worse. It could be frustrating to always be around somebody who seems to have mastered what you struggle with. I guess the rest of the synastry would show how well it would work. IP: Logged |
katatonic unregistered
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posted May 31, 2009 12:44 PM
NN conj SN? a classic indicator of prime soulmates. the past and the future combine.IP: Logged |
Alia Knowflake Posts: 527 From: az Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2009 01:56 PM
my NN is conjunct his SN by 5 degreeshis venus is conj my NN but seems like its me feeling the pull so far IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 712 From: Registered: Jun 2016
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posted May 31, 2009 01:58 PM
Katatonic, how wide an orb do you use for Node-Node connections?IP: Logged |
katatonic unregistered
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posted May 31, 2009 02:32 PM
it varies. i am not very strict mathematically...so it depends on what else is going on in the charts..obviously the closer to exact the more emphatic an aspect is but if the chart is littered with connections there is more leeway...i would go up to 5 or 6 degrees IF the nodes are active in other connections in the charts, and the non-nodal connections are also there. the less support there is the closer it needs to beand please understand that when i say "prime soulmates" i don't believe there is a ONE, but several people with whom we have had recurring relationships with down the timeline(assuming a timeline which is really just a conceptual convenience) as to the actual nodes conj in reverse like this you have to bear in mind that a lot of people are born at around the same time, so whether they are exact or not is not as important as what else is going on in the chart. especially what those nodes connect to in terms of personal planets and angles. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 31, 2009 03:42 PM
My ex husbands NN conjuncted my Venus and I think my NN conjuncted his Venus.We had a very difficult marriage and I can honestly say that I hate him now! I dislike NN/Venus conjunct. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 712 From: Registered: Jun 2016
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posted May 31, 2009 03:52 PM
Aw, Lara, that sounds awful! With the guy I had unrequited feelings for (which made me question my attractiveness, my ability to trust my intuition, and all sorts of other things), my 12 house North Node was conjunct his 8th house Venus. We had all sorts of synastry aspects that, if I were reading for someone else, I would think would indicate MUTUAL feelings between us. It SUCKED. I definitely like the feeling of my Node all up against a man's Jupiter much better. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 31, 2009 04:01 PM
Actually I was wrongMy Nn conjuncts his sun/Saturn 1 deg His NN conjuncts my moon/Venus/Saturn all under 2 degs Yuck!! IP: Logged |
stpahd Newflake Posts: 15 From: vancouver, wa usa Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 05, 2021 06:27 PM
how's it working out for everyone...? i am just meeting someone with this exact conj as well as his Venus on my NN (it's conjunct his south) and tons of Pluto including Pluto square (my) sun.. so tempting as he's so cute but thanks... sounds like a nightmare maybe. maybe i'm ducking out of this one. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 141667 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2021 07:09 PM
Welcome! Moving this to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |