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Topic: IQ & draco predestination
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Alia Knowflake Posts: 512 From: az Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 01:44 AM
..IQ, in a post u said one can look at fatedness and predestination in synastry by comparing Draco charts.did u mean Draco to Draco or Draco to natal? if both whats the strongest? and what exactly are the aspects/asteroids of predestination? how tight the orbs? thanks
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iQ Moderator Posts: 4695 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 04:15 AM
The maximum probability of predestined family links are to be found in the Draco to Natal synastry. Second highest is Draco to Draco synastry. I have found 3 degree orbs to be best for accuracy. In my own family, I have found that my Mother and my wife, both from totally different clans and born decades apart, their Draconic Moon exactly conjuncts my Natal Saturn with 0.15 degree variance. What is the prpobability of this, especially considering my son has Dr Moon exactly opposed to this Saturn! ------------------ http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html IP: Logged |
Alia Knowflake Posts: 512 From: az Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 05:16 AM
really uncanny about the baby opposing that saturn..and the moon-sat conj from 2 generations too ..and conj is as important as opposition? do u also look at chiron and valentine? so u d say the womans moon to the man s saturn is the major aspect or can also be the woman s saturn to the man s moon or the man s sun to the woman s moon or nodes or karma as well? in short, the aspects can be seen from man to woman /woman to man or is stronger if female planets of the woman like moon aspect masculine planets of the man such as sun and sat.? also venus and mars? so far i got my draco moon (17 51' 28") conj to his natal sun (17 51' 36") his draco sun opposed my natal sun (1 deg.orb) my draco saturn (24 8) conj to his draco karma (24 6) but the freakiest thing is our Draco NNs are each exactly at 0 0' 0" aries and 0 0' 0" aries!!! what does that mean? thanks IQ IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:04 AM
The Draco NN is always on 0 degree Aries.But those Sun-Moon and Saturn-Karma-links are really amazing. IP: Logged |
Metatron Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Slovenia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:06 AM
IQWhat about draco sun conjuncting someones natal NN. Could that also be interpreted as predestination aspect? IP: Logged |
Metatron Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Slovenia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:08 AM
Hehehe that was funny Alia , sorry i just couldn't help myself.IP: Logged |
Alia Knowflake Posts: 512 From: az Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:10 AM
ohh thanks DD i didnt think about it.. zero NN is how draco is set !silly of me! thanks for the explanation ** i know metatron! those 0s seemed too crazy but instead was just me lookin at them w newbie glasses! i do think that his natal sun to my draco moon is the closest conjunction i ll ever find btw mine and his chart! IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4695 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:11 AM
Draco North Nodes cannot tell anything useful because the very definition of a Draco chart is to shift everyone's North Node to 0.0 Aries . Infact it is because every one has different North Nodes, and yet their shift to a common point causes uncanny conjunctions to karmic objects which makes this a wonderful study for spiritual purposes or synastry.No astrologer can claim to have mastered Draconic Charts. Every person will have a different fated object as vital in their Draconic. For me it is the Dr Moon, for some it may be Dr Asteroid Karma, for a Tantrik it may be Dr Asteroid Siva and Kaali. There are no absolutely fixed interpretations in any branch of Astrology, it is more of a probabilistic study of several variables that constantly change according to the will of the individual. Weak willed individuals will easily fall for fated astrology predictions. No billionaire will be afflicted by a Saturn-Pluto-Sun T-Square but thousands of astrologically literate wimps will cry and blame smaller afflictions like Mars sq Moon. [ And billionaries do use astrology in secret ] << draco moon (17 51' 28") conj to his natal sun (17 51' 36") >> This is absolutely amazing and precise. Your Soul is connected to his Conscious Personality in this lifeline, thanks to deep and emotional past life bonding.
<<his draco sun opposed my natal sun (1 deg.orb) >> Quite a spicy aspect The inner You will be irressitbly drawn to him. << my draco saturn (24.8) conj to his draco karma (24.6) >> Totally totally totally fated match. Plenty of karmic debt, likely to be positive karmic debts. I must post an article on karmic debts as many think that we can only have negative karmic debts. If I help you gain 5000 dollars through the stock market and then you help me get 5000 dollars in real estate, it does not mean we have balanced the karmic debts. It means that in the next lifeline, each one of us might help the other get 50,000 dollars. This is the Occult Secret of successful business partnerships like Paul Allen-Bill Gates or Hewlett-Packard.
Karmic Debts can be balanced only by emotional forgiveness in a deep meditative state through the respective Higher Selves. ------------------ http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4695 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:16 AM
Metatron wrote: <<What about draco sun conjuncting someones natal NN. Could that also be interpreted as predestination aspect? >> Absolutely. The following can be used as Generic Fated Objects to comprehend predestination: North Node/South Node Saturn Asteroid KARMA, TYCHE, FORTUNA and DESTINN Asteroid MOIRA may also be useful though I have not studied it sufficiently.IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:20 AM
IQ,I have found Moira to be very significant, but then it`s on the same degree as is my Siva and conjunct Lancelot and squaring my Moon, trine my Saturn and also trine my Juno. So maybe it`s just at the right spot in my chart to be effective. If these predestination asteroids are conjunct / opposite love asteroids would that give a probability or possibility of a predestined love?
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Alia Knowflake Posts: 512 From: az Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:23 AM
wow thanks IQ.i hope one day he ll value this connection and be back to me in this lifetime.. if he s my divine selection. which i think he might is, lookin at the draco aspects! but i cant be sure. or maybe bcs of the karmic debt will be in the next lifetime? quote: Karmic Debts can be balanced only by emotional forgiveness in a deep meditative state through the respective Higher Selves
ur so right about this. i m hoping if i can truly forgive him his higher self will be drawn back to me in this lifetime. do u have any advice on what kind of deep meditative state i could use,and/or affirmations?thanks again IP: Logged |
Metatron Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Slovenia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:24 AM
Thx IQ! I found out that her DR moon squares my DR karma, its 2°. We also have this square in our natal to natal. My DR moon also squares her DR Karma but its 4°. Is this bad, sort of a hurtful relationship?IP: Logged |
Metatron Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Slovenia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 06:30 AM
OMG i have a DW Moon/Karma Square in natal to natal with her. The first one is 0°26', the second is 2°29'. This cannot be good!!??IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted May 22, 2009 07:46 AM
hi!guys i would look specially at asteroids karma,valentine,isis,osiris and why not the name asteroids? in my and bf´s case,our most tight conections were between the above and our luminaries: his D.Sun cj my N.Isis 2 his D.Moon opse my N.Osiris 3 his D.Venus cj my N.Vesta 2 his D.Venus cj my D.SUN 2 his D.Saturn cj my D.ASC 0 his D.VX cj my N.Sun 1 his D.VX opose my D.Alma 0 his D.KARMA cj my D.VX/John his D.VALENTINE opose my N.Sun 1 his D.VALENTINE WIDE cj my D.Moon 4 his D.VALENTINE cj my D.ALMA 1 HIS D.AMOR cj my N.ANNA 0 his D.AMOR cj my D.VENUS 1 his D.ALMA cj my N.Saturn 3 his D.ALMA opose my N.Juno 1 his D.ISIS/OSIRIS trine my D.KARMA(2/5) his D.OSIRIS trine my D.VX 3 and JONNHY 3! HIS D.ISIS/OSIRIS trine my N.Moon (3/4) his .. ... ... N.ALMA 1 his D.JONHPAUL trine my N.MOON and ALMA my D.SUN cj his N.VALENTINE 1 MY d.moon Cj his N.ANNA 2 MY D.VENUS opose his N,MARS 1 my d.saturn opose his N.ALMA 1 my D.JUNO cj his N.ALMA 1 my D.,KARMA wide cj his D.VENUS 4 MY D.KARMA trine his D.JONPAUL 0,HIS d.OSIRIS 3 MY d.vx TRINE HIS d.OSIS/IS/JOHNPAUL tight my D.AMOR cj his N.Juno 4 my D.UNION cj his N.KARMA! 0 MY D.ISIS opose his N.SUn 2 my D.OSIRIS cj his N.Moon my D.ANNA exact opose his AMOR 0 SPECIALLY THE ISIS/OSIRIS/NAME ASTEROIUDS AND ALMA ARE very interlinked with each other´c chart,both in natal and draco. MY d.IC cj his D.DSC
MY D.IC CJ HIS N.IC 1
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Dolphin07 Knowflake Posts: 246 From: United States Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 11:15 AM
What does asteroid Kaali mean?IP: Logged |
Dolphin07 Knowflake Posts: 246 From: United States Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 03:50 PM
Anyone on Kaali?IP: Logged |
VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 156 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 06:25 AM
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 1350 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted April 27, 2014 09:21 AM
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mir Knowflake Posts: 1332 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 27, 2014 02:32 PM
quote: so far i got my draco moon (17 51' 28") conj to his natal sun (17 51' 36")
That's exactly what we also have but it's not that spectaculair hehe .. my draco moon conj. his natal sun with orb 0'33. Strong draco to draco synastry has Always been a short-lived encounter in my 'main-planet experience' in contrast with the lasting power of draco to natal synastry. But both intense yes. IP: Logged |
bumblebee Knowflake Posts: 189 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 28, 2014 06:07 AM
IQ, you mention dr. planets conjunct trop. NN to point to a predestined encounter. What about conjunctions to trop. south node? I have following synastry - draco to tropical:My Dr. moon opposition his tr. mars 0 deg orb His dr. mars conjunct my tr. venus/south node conjunction 0 deg orb IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 661 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted April 28, 2014 01:07 PM
Draco to natal is HUGE. I agree about the predestination thing.Exact conjunctions/oppositions: My Dr.Venus conjunct his N. SN My Dr.Mercury conjunct his N.SN My Dr.Jupiter opposite his N.Sun My Dr.Saturn conjunct his N.Venus (on my DSC!) My Dr.Uranus opposite his N.Sun/Moon MP His Dr.Sun opposite my N.Chiron His Dr.Mercury opposite my N.Moon His Dr.Venus conjunct my N.Uranus His Dr.IC conjunct my N.Chiron And if a little wider (1-3 degrees)
My Dr.Sun conjunct his N.Uranus My Dr.Moon opposite his N.Sun My Dr.Venus conjunct his N.Uranus (DW) My Dr.Pluto conjunct his N.Jupiter His Dr.Moon conjunct my N.Pluto His Dr.Neptune conjunct my N.Sun His Dr.Vertex conjunct my N.Mercury His Dr.Vertex conjunct my N.Venus There were a ton of synchronicities prior to us meeting each other, and i have proved past life memories of us being married in the past life.
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bumblebee Knowflake Posts: 189 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 30, 2014 06:45 AM
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