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blue moon
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posted May 23, 2009 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
What do you think, said Libra Moon, about the woman in the paper who said she loved her husband more than her kids?

That's not very nice, says Libra Sun, she should love everyone the same.

The scales must be balanced.

The Libra Moon in this conversation was me, the Sun is my son.

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Azalaksh
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posted May 23, 2009 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
blue ~

Those born with Libran influences "chose" that path to learn balance, not because we already have it
Balancing the scales is neither easy, nor lasting -- someone always drops a rock in one tray

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katatonic
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posted May 23, 2009 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes, i have little libra in my chart(though my prog sun is there) but i have noticed in my libra friends over the years...a tendency to be VERY decisive, choosing a direction - only to change course a little way down the line and do a complete and abrupt 180! which always reminded me of a sailboat tacking against the wind...

the point headed for is always somewhere between the two extremes, but libra so often seems unable to find it! and while they are headed in one direction they seem mercifully oblivious that recently they thought the other direction was the ONLY way to go.

i think as they grow older they become somewhat more balanced as a result of this to-and-fro motion...

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posted May 23, 2009 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
"What do you think, said Libra Moon, about the woman in the paper who said she loved her husband more than her kids? "...

I read that and though I am a Libra Sun and ascendant I am well ashamed of that woman. Thats such a weak thing to say! I don't see any strength in that statement at all!
We may not be talking about the actual statement but rather the issue of Librans who debate...... And I do so arrogantly at times :P .... But my scales do not go from hither to tither on this one. When it comes to my love for my children there is nothing that can compare. It's a completely different dimension anyway. Husbands and partners are blessings (if they are positive partners) but to me my children are everything.

I can be very decisive when I'm passionate about something, it's when I'm not passionate that I'll either sit on the fence or look at both sides.

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posted May 24, 2009 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fleurdelis     Edit/Delete Message
What happens if the sentence changes a bit?

"What do you think, about the man who said he loved his wife more than his female friend?

That's not very nice, says Libra Sun, he should love everyone the same.
Is equality taken a bit too far here?

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posted May 24, 2009 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Giving a non-Libran approach:

The Libra Moon mother has the benefit of life experience and knows that as a wife and mother the love for husband and children may be equal in terms of level and intensity, but in types of love are not the same.

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posted May 24, 2009 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Peace, a lot of ladies responding to the piece said a similar thing.

I don't know why anyone would want to write a book emphasising how passionate her relationship still is after having children, what is she trying to prove?

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posted May 24, 2009 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Perhaps someone having trouble coming to terms with their own age or mortality? I mean, we see it in men all the time - where they replace the woman with a younger, prettier version, etc. Maybe this is the female equivalent. Holding on to some sense of sexuality (virility) in some way. It all comes down to the same thing - that mid-age life crisis thing - fear of death. Maybe that's just how it's manifested.

I don't get it. I can't honestly say that I would put anyone before my children. So it's pure speculation. I think it's unusual for a woman, generally speaking, to say something like that. We've all seen relationships go down the toilet when children come along because the women either replace their affections upon the children and leave the partner in wait or because he can't handle the competition, even if it's spawned from him. No easy answers. Maybe not one satisfactory to the romantic in Librans anyway. Interesting topic.

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posted May 24, 2009 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Very Libran answer and question.

It reminds me of my own behaviour that I exhibited around my mum. In my younger days, and I'm still prone to this when I visit, when we were allocated meals at eating times by my mum, I'd get served and I'd always say "what about dad?"

Drives her nuts.

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posted May 24, 2009 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
My Mercury in tropical Scorpio is in the constellation of Libra,and it is in alignment (longitude conjunction) with Beta Libra, Zuben Eschamali and Zuben Hakrabi

My Venus in tropical Scorpio is in the constellation of Libra, and it is in both culminating (prime years,30 to 65) and nadir (nadir,foundation and summation of life) paran (star on an angle at the time a planet is on an angle) with Beta Libra, Zuben Eschamali

according to Bernadette Brady's Starlight Program and book on fixed stars:

The Claws of the Scorpion became known as The Scales around the time of the Greek and early Roman empires. Aratus, in the 4th century bce, referred to the constellation as the Claws of the Scorpion and called them "the mighty Claws; they are scant of light..". However, well before Aratus this part of the sky was also linked to a light or lamp representing the Assyrian god Bir. Bir was known as Father and was a god of fire or great light who was believed to be found amongst these stars. Other images see the stars as a lamp held by the scorpion, a type of light and dark symbol linked in more recent times to the yin/yang symbol of the I Ching.

The Romans claimed they added this sign, bringing the number of the zodiac signs to twelve. But it should be remembered that from at least 2,000 bce there were twelve signs with one, Scorpio, broken into two parts: the Scorpion and the Claws of the Scorpion. The Romans saw Libra as a symbol of justice ruled by their goddess, Astraea (Virgo), who held the Scales in her hands. She is still used today to represent the law and courts.

A possible origin of the scales of Libra being linked to justice could well have emanated from Babylonian and Egyptian theology where the souls of the dead are weighed in a great scale. The Scorpion was seen as the gateway to the after-life, or death which is then followed by the scales of judgement. Justice, death, final judgement, this is the essence of this part of the sky.

The brightest star is Zuben elgenubi, the southern scale, with the other named stars in order of magnitude being: Zuben eschamali, the northern scale, and Zuben hakrabi, sometimes called Graffias, which lies on the tip of the northern scale.


according to Bernadette Brady's Starlight and her books on fixed stars:
Social reform for personal gain

One of a pair of stars, its twin being Zuben elgenubi, with each star representing one of the pans of the scale of Libra. Both these stars have a common theme with Zuben eschamali showing the more shadowy side of the concept. This theme is to be strongly involved in social reform or social justice with this star expressing itself in a more direct and sometimes very self-interested way then its southern twin.
Zuben eschamali can be very effective in the community but you will have a strong personal gain or power motive. The local councillor who seeks to help his or her community but also wants the status of being on the council is a positive example of Zuben eschamali,. However, if you wanted the position in the community to act in a corrupt way this is the negative expression of the star.
This star in your chart will give you a social orientation. You will want to be involved in groups, be they those of national reform, politics and the law, or simply a hobby or social group. This involvement will need to give you positive feedback, be aware of what your motives are and make sure that these motivates are not put above the needs of the group.


I do have a strong sense of justice. I believe in harsher punishments for violent criminals. I used to believe in the death penalty for a very long time for murders. My mom's shooting factored into that. I believe that my being advocate for neurodiversity connected to social reform. I guess being a neurodivergent and coming from a neurodivergent family, the advocacy is very personal. Therefore, I would be lying if I said that didn't want any personal gain. Wanting neurodiversity to be acknowledged,understood,and tolerated means that me and my family are acknowledged,understood,and tolerated too. I definitely don't want my future children being misdiagnosed and medicated because they don't fit inside a box neurologically.


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pire
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posted November 28, 2009 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
i think the moon is being libra, not nice and polished but just fair (will get back to "fair" in a sec) whereas the sun is trying to become libran.

what i mean is the moon is/was libra and the sun become/is libra.

by fair, i mean ...

well, what's better than experience, i suggest u try on a libra moon to know.

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posted November 29, 2009 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
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When it comes to my love for my children there is nothing that can compare. It's a completely different dimension anyway. Husbands and partners are blessings (if they are positive partners) but to me my children are everything.

This is why I'm afraid to have kids I have a Libra Moon too and I can't fathom loving one more than the other. I think it's unfair and it kind of breaks my heart.

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katatonic
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posted November 29, 2009 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
but there ARE women who put their husband/partner before their kids. and of the ones i know they are mostly - libras! and there are plenty of dads who don't get it when their partner puts the kids first...it doesn't seem to occur to them that they(dads) are grownups and might be expected to fend for themselves whereas children are not yet capable of doing so...

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Diablo
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posted November 30, 2009 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, libra moon (cancer sun) here and i found that very interesting..

particularly your reply, glaucus...im wondering what nuerodivergence is?? just cos i study psych & neuropsych and never heard of it before

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