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MyVirgoMask
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posted December 06, 2011 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm interesting, IQ! Warren Buffet btw just (like last week?) bought a ridiculously high in (I think) Cisco. Usually he sticks to more conservative, close-to-home products and so it's an unusual and unexpected move from him. He is taking some major chances and knows something. My guess is, there are unexpected stock drops (I think gold is JUST starting to go down for the first time in years, as is silver) but there are surprising rises as well. Uranus moving into Aries is not only making the market have unusual rises and falls, it's making people take unusual chances (whether they regret them later is yet to be seen though).

For the record on a more personal level, Uranus has been moving over my sun/moon midpoint for some time now (squaring it) and giving gloomy news followed by amazing breakthroughs. It's frustrating but immensely fascinating. I already have Saturn conj and Pluto squ my sun/moon mp by one degree in natal. Adding Uranus to the mix has been like throwing a lit match into it all. Makes for interesting sparks to say the least lol.

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ElizabethO
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posted December 06, 2011 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least if something happens... I won't need to pay my student loans anymore.

Laughing aside, I really do hope some serious political reform occurs. I actually hope that the world economy collapses because I have enough faith in humanity that we'd be able to rebuild a better society where money does not define our worth in the world or whether or not we can achieve happiness.

But if the oceans boil up and we are all doomed, well... damn... can't stop that. /shrug

(I still don't believe that anything apocalyptic will happen.)

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MyVirgoMask
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posted December 06, 2011 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe the apocalypse will make the student loan records disappear. There would be something good. Make that **** disappear!!!!

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amowls**
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posted December 06, 2011 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
What are you trying to say exactly?

You said that NASA had predicted that a solar maximum would occur in 2012 and I was correcting you.

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lindisfarne
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posted December 06, 2011 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will snow, and there will be harsh winds that day.
People will still die like they do everyday.
Nothing significant about that.

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athenegoddess
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posted December 06, 2011 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what you are talking about. They still confirmed it for late 2012-2013. And besides, I'm not a person that counts on our 'scientists' to give us valid information. I just mentioned Nasa because I know most people are gullible enough to believe just because they say it, it's true... When in reality they hide the truth. Like for example how they are in a panic about all the Nuclear plants melting down if the power grids get wiped out. Then there will be a world wide nuclear meltdown. That alone would destroy humanity. They don't have any backup plan if the grids get powered down by the solar flares, that is what they don't tell you. Just look at Japan, they didn't have a backup plan.

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posted December 06, 2011 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
That girl is me. And hey, did you know the Solar Maximum is confirmed by NASA in late 2012-2013?

Baseless predictions?

I think someone needs to dig a little deeper at what they think they know.


You need to remember that there's no definitive proof that anything is going to happen that day, so it's really silly of you to show up here saying everyone else is foolish as though what you say is fact and not just a theory.

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posted December 06, 2011 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
It will snow, and there will be harsh winds that day.
People will still die like they do everyday.
Nothing significant about that.

Are you certain about that?

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athenegoddess
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posted December 06, 2011 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't need proof. It's hard to explain to people who don't know. I guess you just know. If you don't know.. keep not knowing. I'm not here to make you believe. If you hear what I'm saying, good for you. Maybe if you do a little research on 12-21-12.. you would start to see. But I'm assuming everyone who is in denial over it, has never even looked at how important that day is at all. Nor do they have a grasp of where humanity is at this time.

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posted December 06, 2011 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Personally, I think that all of the hype is just that--hype.

"You will not know the day nor the hour".

I get annoyed with all of the end-of-the-world/doomsday talk. The world will end when it ends. Period. I don't think that it will happen when it's "scheduled" to happen.

I also don't understand why people WANT bad things to happen. Why wish that on the world? Makes no sense. Why would anyone in their right mind actually DESIRE those things or some other kind of big turmoil/upheaval?

Also, I need to correct the "rapture" idea. This is NOT a MAINSTREAM Christian belief. We mainstream Protestants (as well as Roman Catholics) don't believe in it. Revelation wasn't meant as prophecy. It was written as a code and was meant for people living in those times.



Thaaaank you. I thought it was just me who found something really disturbing about people hoping some mass catastrophe happens. I'm like, "You do know if that happens, a lot of people will DIE, probably in a really apinful manner, and that a lot of the ones left will suffer, right?"

Why anyone would hope for something like that, I don't get and it seems incredibly sociopathic to me to do so.

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posted December 06, 2011 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm utterly annoyed with you thinking I want something bad to happen. In fact, I do want it to happen because humanity cannot carry on like this! But I'm not sitting back and saying please make a catastrophe come. No, I'm simply aware of humanities evolution at this point and what the next step is. You cannot concieve of something coming good from a pole shift next year. But I can.

Akasha and Asun are here and they say 12-21-12 is the day of our ascension.

Nobody, not even iQ can tell me nothing is going to happen on 12-21-12. I am self taught, self sufficient, self believing. And I have had many complex thoughts come to me, thoughts that I believe have been given to me by some higher power. And I always find out my thoughts were correct. And what I know about that day, and the fact that this event hasn't occurred for 25,920 years (which is the end of the last ice age), I know some big change is coming. And all my knowledge doesn't come from Blavatsky, I read her stuff already which I do refer to often. But I get my knowledge and guidance from Akasha and Asun now.

And iQ, if you read Blavatsky, you would know she said she doesn't know when the next pole shift would happen. She said 'the masters were as quiet as snow atop a mountain on the subject' or something like that. But I KNOW it's 12-21-12, because she said it will happen at the end of the sidereal year.

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athenegoddess
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posted December 06, 2011 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and if you want tangible proof, go to USGS website and check out how many earthquakes happened this year in comparison to the past.

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iQ
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posted December 06, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dear,
You can see in David Icke's forum that I myself have predicted a vast majority of the extra tremors this year
There is no doubt that we are having Earth Changes and a Shift in Consciousness.

One of my contacts is studying Sun Spot/Solar Cycles with an author named Patrick Geryl, and they have found many anomalies in this.

The point is the exactitude of the date/time when Timelines are Flexible. The Akashic will show you only one perspective of one timeline. And even this is subject to change.

I am 100% sure you want nothing negative to happen, am just commenting that it is impossible to arrive at the exact time, date and nature of the shift as it pertains to all Humanity.

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athenegoddess
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posted December 06, 2011 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just visited Patrick Geryl for two weeks. Lol.

And what of the people who's consciousness are not shifting? Do you think the earth is going to let them stay here? to delay her own evolution? She has a destiny you know.

And an exact date, I have to disagree. Because the Mayans did it. I'm not talking about consciousness. I'm talking about the pole shift.

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posted December 08, 2011 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I just visited Patrick Geryl for two weeks. Lol.
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I just realized you are that same contact

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And what of the people who's consciousness are not shifting? Do you think the earth is going to let them stay here? to delay her own evolution? She has a destiny you know.
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Not at all, Earth will steadily "Shift" Them to the most positive 3D Planet elsewhere in the Galaxy. Already, so many exo-planets have been discovered. One of them could be their new home. It will happen just like in the Matrix Movie, they will forget everything of this incarnation and awaken to the New Matrix as if they were there all along. That is what would have happened to most humans in the past 100 years on Earth. This is why so many people are recalling other planets in their regression sessions.


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And an exact date, I have to disagree. Because the Mayans did it. I'm not talking about consciousness. I'm talking about the pole shift.
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Pole Shift is another issue. That may very well occur on 21 December 2012 itself. It is the consequences which will be gradual, controlled and as painless to the majority as possible.

Do not forget that if 6 billion are to be shifted, that could amount to 100 million Higher Selves at least. One Higher Self has the power to make his own Planet. Earth is like their colleague. As a team they are not going to wallow in a collective catastrophe. They have already recorded the Atlantis experience in their databank.

This roller-coaster ride will be a bit more pleasant on the whole for humans. The problem for all Good Beings is dealing with the Draco Hybrids from Nibiru and other wicked dimensions, entities who have a pathological hatred of Earth. Check out www.alloya.com.

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posted December 08, 2011 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MVM wrote:
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Adding Uranus to the mix has been like throwing a lit match into it all. Makes for interesting sparks to say the least lol.
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Absolutely

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posted December 08, 2011 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I don't need proof. It's hard to explain to people who don't know. I guess you just know. If you don't know.. keep not knowing. I'm not here to make you believe. If you hear what I'm saying, good for you. Maybe if you do a little research on 12-21-12.. you would start to see. But I'm assuming everyone who is in denial over it, has never even looked at how important that day is at all. Nor do they have a grasp of where humanity is at this time.


You don't know me.

You don't know what I do or don't know.

You and your ASSumptions...

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posted December 08, 2011 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I'm utterly annoyed with you thinking I want something bad to happen. In fact, I do want it to happen because humanity cannot carry on like this! But I'm not sitting back and saying please make a catastrophe come. No, I'm simply aware of humanities evolution at this point and what the next step is. You cannot concieve of something coming good from a pole shift next year. But I can.

Akasha and Asun are here and they say 12-21-12 is the day of our ascension.

Nobody, not even iQ can tell me nothing is going to happen on 12-21-12. I am self taught, self sufficient, self believing. And I have had many complex thoughts come to me, thoughts that I believe have been given to me by some higher power. And I always find out my thoughts were correct. And what I know about that day, and the fact that this event hasn't occurred for 25,920 years (which is the end of the last ice age), I know some big change is coming. And all my knowledge doesn't come from Blavatsky, I read her stuff already which I do refer to often. But I get my knowledge and guidance from Akasha and Asun now.

And iQ, if you read Blavatsky, you would know she said she doesn't know when the next pole shift would happen. She said 'the masters were as quiet as snow atop a mountain on the subject' or something like that. But I KNOW it's 12-21-12, because she said it will happen at the end of the sidereal year.



You still make absolutely no sense...so, let me get this straight...because you think life on this planet sucks...you hope for some kind of catastrophe...that, if it happens, will undoubtedly result in billions of deaths.

But you think you care about and respect life?

This is why I can't take New-Agers seriously, because all their beliefs are @$$-backwards.

And wannabe-'gurus' say all kinds of things. Just because someone comes up to you and states something, doesn't mean its true and the fact that you just blindly absorbed it, just didn't question it at all, is very wtf-ish to say the least.

Also - articles have come out in the last week or so where researchers specifically state that the Mayans never said the world would end or go through some pivotal change that day, other than one of their deities reappearing. But they never mentioned anything happening to life on the planet or anything along those lines, at all. That's just where they chose to stop their calendar, because they had to stop it somewhere.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16000331

I just can't wait for that day to come so I can rub it in your faces and so finally we won't be inundated with this BS anymore. This really isn't any different than the Rapture episode earlier this year.

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posted December 08, 2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ you are confused. obviously cannot comprehend things.

Please dont mention any articles or what not. I do not get my info from an outside source so its irrelevent.

I do not care what anyone says about the mayan date not really being an end date. I know what I know.

And for the last time, this isn't a belief okay. This is TRUTH!!!

If you knew anything about life, I would not be having this conversation with u.

The Mayans recorded the exact date the suns magnetic field would reverse in august 2010 when Uranus entered 0 Aries. They were more advanced and more precise than todays astronomers. August 2010 was the most massive CME in a long time. Tell me how they did it?

With astrology.

iQ, yes, same contact.

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posted December 08, 2011 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
December 21, 2012 will be my 5th year Anniversary with my Aquarian. That is what is happening for me.

Sure now Pluto and Uranus will be having a go at it - may mean sudden changes that lead to a major transformation or something........

In all honesty, I don't think anything will happen - it ranks up there with people saying that we are living the last days and Armageddon is coming..........well same thing. Doomsayers are always predicting the end of the world.....Dec 21/12 will be just like any other day.....I won't believe it till I see something happen and find myself dead.....

If it has not happened - don't worry about it.

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