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Ruben
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posted May 26, 2009 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would the aspect involve? Would it mean that the sexuality of Mars has a positive influence on the NN person's spiritual development?

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posted May 26, 2009 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a mars opposing NN. I guess it means the opposite of whatever yours means

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posted June 06, 2009 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was actually kidding about sexuality

I'm wondering if the Mars person would act as a trigger for the NN person though, if they'd be able to somehow stimulate the flow of spiritual energy and direct them positively.

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posted June 06, 2009 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the strongest link to the NN (yeah it seems weird but it beats venus, sun, moon).

It's the one that makes someone work for its better development.

It's rather unbreakable.

My mother's mars conjuncts my north node.

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posted June 06, 2009 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious about this aspect too, so I just Googled it and there was a synastry report for Calista Flockhart and Harrison Ford that says the following:

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Calista's Mars is Conjunct Harrison's North Node (Orb 3į43')

This combination of the planet Mars and the North Node indicates a fiery and fated relationship. This association makes a strong impact on both Calista and Harrison whether they are lovers or enemies. It is also possible that Calista and Harrison are involved in a dramatic or energetic project together. Whatever the path of this relationship, it is destined to change the course of their lives, in particular that of Harrison. Passion and an intense desire to relate may be central to this relationship. However, it is also possible that arguments and violence are at the core of this association. The challenge for both Calista and Harrison is to keep this association lively and positive so that fate can play its hand for the best possible outcome. In fact Harrison may benefit directly through the role that Calista plays in his life.



source:http://www.artcharts.com/catalog/samples/solar_synastry_ford.html

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posted June 06, 2009 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, PeaceAngel. I actually just read that description.

hanakin, how did you perceive the aspect in that case? How did she influence you exactly?

What you said about development is ironic because I actually feel I had a strong impact on her since the early stages of interaction (I'm the Mars person.) She seems to be receptive to me and I noticed she changed significantly since we started communicating, I can practically see some of her facets developing and blooming. It's like the potential has always been there, but it needed to be nurtured.

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posted June 15, 2012 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"What would the aspect involve? Would it mean that the sexuality of Mars has a positive influence on the NN person's spiritual development?"

yes! I'm the Mars and he's the node lol
I donno if I'd say it's my sexuality. Though we do have sex. But he really opens up to me, and has told me things he hasn't told other people.

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posted June 15, 2012 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah! I have this with someone in a particularly *complicated* relationship.

My NN is in my 3rd house, Cancer. What I've found is that he has stimulated me to actually follow my NN path. I've ignored it for quite some time, but now, after having been around him, I feel like I'm not fulfilling my true destiny. I should be doing more to go in that direction. It's like he's a catalyst. I needed to meet him to give me a good kick, and get me going.

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posted June 15, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this with my fiance, my mars conjunct his nn/mc 1* in sag and this is really ringing true to me/. We had a very powerful connection and he says he can open up to me and tell me things like he never has before in his life. The bond between us is very strong on both sides, it seems unbreakable. My nn also conj his desc 0* too though.

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posted February 27, 2013 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect with my boyfriend, where I'm Mars and it's a 0 deg orb. It occurs in his 12th house and my 8th. I'll add my experience for this one, too: the general description is true for us, except for the arguments part. He says I inspire him and remind him of all the things he wants to accomplish. I encourage him a lot because I love listening to his ideas. I'm helping him finish a book he's been writing for the last 10 years. I know graphic design and so I completely revamped it from it's sad Microsoft Word format, and I'm adding illustrations while he finishes it. For better context, my Jupiter is conjunct his Venus which opposes his Moon in Pisces/Virgo, landing in his 2nd/8th house and my 11th/5th house. So basically we're destined to do something creative together, haha.

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posted June 15, 2013 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krystie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am also curious about this... my two ex boyfriends both had NN at 12į Cap and my Mars is 14į Cap... but what really freaked me out was recently discovering my dad's NN is 14į Cap also.... interesting...

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posted June 15, 2013 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
It's like he's a catalyst.

This resonates with me.

I only have this with one person, a girl friend of mine.
As the Mars person, I always encourage her to be more self-confident and to love herself more - the conjunction falls in her 2nd house of self-esteem.
She opens up to me easily, and comes to me for advice - the conjunction falls in my 6th (service).

She's absolutely a great person, I like her very much and I'd love to see her become more confident and develop a strong sense of self-worth.

So although it is not a sexual relationship, I do think it has a positive effect on us both.

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posted June 15, 2013 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been trying to figure out how this aspect applies to me in a synastry with a girlfriend of mind. Both her mars and her venus tightly conjunct my NN in my 4th house Libra and her ASC squares my NN exact! We had a very rocky friendship and ultimately had a significant falling out. However, since I met her, my life has changed directions completely! She fueled a lot of anger and hurt inside of me.

Does anyone have an experience with these aspects in a platonic friendship that ended negatively? I've read that in most cases of a venus/ NN conjunction, the relationship always ends.

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posted June 15, 2013 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tgem,

It's gotta be something else.
Or maybe just a negative manifestation of Mars/NN - aggression, conflict.

But by itself, I doubt it'd have that effect.

Check out afflictions to Mars/Saturn/Pluto in your synastry and even the composite.

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posted June 17, 2013 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux RÍve:
tgem,

It's gotta be something else.
Or maybe just a negative manifestation of Mars/NN - aggression, conflict.

But by itself, I doubt it'd have that effect.

Check out afflictions to Mars/Saturn/Pluto in your
synastry and even the composite.


Thanks Doux, yeah mars sextile pluto so no biggie but sun in hard aspect to uranus DW. Her chiron also conjuncts my sun and squares my mars tight. Maybe those two are it...I've just read that significant aspects to the NN mean a fated relationship and I could get the venus conjunct NN thing especially since it was a platonic friendship.

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posted June 18, 2013 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't have it in synastry but i have it in composite with my bf exact (40 minutes) in the fourth house.

it's trine the composite ascendant as well as trine our composite pluto and mercury. sextile composite moon - no afflictions.

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posted June 18, 2013 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of itself,

NN conjunct Mars in synastry would see the Mars person taking the stance of this person (NN) is going to cause me problems - so they would be slightly thrilled and slightly ready for action. Generally, NN would be sensing possible invasion by Mars, and Mars would be wary of NN's potential to rock the boat.

NN kind of feels a little bit like they are a traveller in an unknown land, like as if they have amnesia and the individuals that conjunct them by planet seem to know something about them - like in the kind of story when someone has people doing and saying random things, accusing them of stuff, expecting a relationship out of them etc - and all the person in the story that would represent the NN would know is that they think they have only just showed up in this setting.

the conjunction in Aries: Mars might be bordering on being too rough with them - NN would feel others want to de-clothe them and they would not be sure whether Mars is the ringleader or his ally in defence.

Taurus: Mars would seriously admire NN and again want to see NN's sensual side - see what NN has to offer. NN seems a little jaded here like they are over being used.

Gemini: Mars would make out they are ignoring NN and might enlist the help of others to disarm NN. NN is a little wised up to Mars and others and could be inclined to play some counter mind games.

Cancer: Mars is more relaxed here and almost happy to contend with what might come his way from NN. NN is resentful but likely to feel like he will toe the line with Mar's agenda or perhaps what Mars is saying the rules of survival in the particular setting are. Mars has an air of 'ok this is how it is...' and is quite persuasive about it.

Leo: Mars is a shocker here; so flamboyant with their nature - all with a purpose of over-running NN. NN is almost in front of Mars and they are kind of neck and neck battling out their agendas with one another. NN isn't too sure of what is required but they have already taken stock of Mars - finding Mars to be immature though fun, and possibly an equal in terms of strategy - so yes their seems to be a lot to do with the 'rules of the game' with the conjunction in each of the signs.

Virgo: Mars is capricious, not wanting to tolerate or slow down for NN. Mars wants to keep up their busy pace and feels that NN might need some instruction or going over the details. NN feels a bit narky about Mars like NN might say 'far out, Mars knows I am not clued into all this yet but he expects me to be expert in it already but I know I'm going to need a hand with this and Mars is being a bit too clipped with me'.

Libra: Mars is very accommodating to NN here - like he knows this is what is the done thing, or what is the decent thing to do. There is a slight feel that Mars puts in effort superficially and just so his behaviour looks good and no one can say he hasn't been fair and appropriate in his response to NN. NN is tolerating Mars but kind of feels like its all a bit of a joke - as when a no nonsense kind of guy has to be billeted out at the church organists place and feels like Mars the organist is expecting NN the hairy chested, sweaty guy to come to the table in a suit coat and all freshly spruced, and capably following the use of the correct tableware whilst making socially acceptable light conversation.

Scorpio: Mars is kind of scowling, turning up their nose at lots of things. NN is feeling exposed and thinks Mars is in the same boat - whilst Mars is vaguely annoyed at himself because he knows that ultimately he will take advantage of NN.

Sagittarius: Mars is very much like the benefacting mentor here - tolerant, not extreme, ready to enter into some serious study and philosophy with NN. NN is a little feeling like Mars and the sign could be a little too arduous for his liking but he feels that their is some sound application required in terms of improving one self and in broadening the mind.

Capricorn: Mars here is super cool and assured, NN is in a good spot with Mars around. NN is quietly scared sh*tless but willing to see what is going to happen like as if their is a hint of corporate prestige and really tangible gains (or similar).

Aquarius: Mars is a super joker here, so savvy and light years in front of everything like they are street wise +++.
NN is grateful for Mars and thinks Mars might show NN what its like to walk on the wild side but done so super coolly and removed from any drama or debasement.

Pisces: Mars is kind of tired, exhausted really, and maybe a little loony like one who has been traumatised by life - so that they feel they don't have much passion for anything other than sort of magical escapist stuff. NN feels constantly like its their first day on the job and wonders how long they will have this spooky Mars person tagging along - after all will they end up having to save Mars. To NN, Mars could have mental health issues or maybe they are dependent or a bit distateful or whatever it is - NN feels that there is something not quite up front about Mars. Mars feels NN is not going to like it here in Pisces. NN is pretty positive about Pisces but not too sure about Mars.

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posted June 19, 2013 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis,

Interesting, thanks.

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posted June 19, 2013 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I read the description of Pisces/Mars I could easily forget the part about Mars and apply the entire definition to my Pisces North Node.

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posted June 19, 2013 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you doux reve, I think it's interesting that NN seems to be operating from its south node mode of operating.

StarlightSmileSupreme, is mars in significant aspect to your NN or is it in your first house?

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posted June 20, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis,

Mars squares the north and south nodes none of them are in the first house. North node is in six, south's in twelve and Mars is romping through three and add Pluto to the mix since it conjuncts the south node. I am fascinated by the nodes and what they mean. How do they impact my life? I have a Pisces node in the house of Virgo and a Virgo node in the house of Pisces. That, to me, is mind boggling.

I would just like to know how Pluto enters into it. South node conjunctions are supposed to be major things. So, how would this Pluto/south node conjunction potentially affect my life? Am I going to rule the world? Will I have a gazillion brainwashed followers who are just waiting to follow my command?

The north node trines Neptune so it's not all gloom and doom and Neptune is connected to the moon. I wonder how this will all play out? What is my overall destiny? What mark, if any, will I leave on history?

I am encouraged because one of my favorite writers has the north node in the same spot as mine, an exact conjunction, and his trines Neptune and it's in the same sign, everything. He has the moon in Sagittarius and I have Mars. So, who knows? That's the most encouraging thing about it.

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posted June 21, 2013 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starlight,
According to the skipped step idea, mentioned before on here by a few posters and advocated by evolutionary astrologers and others, your Mars is your skipped step.

So yes according to the skipped step idea a planet squaring the nodal axis has been termed a flag in the chart that indicates something from your past that needs to be resolved in order to progress and fulfill the requirements of the North Node which is your point of evolution. So in your case, your Mars is a skipped step that needs to be resolved. With it being in Sagittarius in the third house, then this would suggest that in order to fulfill your Pisces NN in the 6th you need to apply yourself to learning about philosophical/metaphysical/higher laws and generally systems of thoughts that expand your view on things so as to understand the nature of of operating in 6th house issues from the perspective of Piscean consciousness.

Because Mars is in the 3rd, this could well point to areas of knowledge that you need to actively seek in order to learn because something in your 'past' has not been addressed and is a block to the development of the NN requirements. This could mean that a course or series of courses that enabled you to learn, communicate, and philosophise on is required so as to develop a mode of operation towards health, daily routines that incorporates an awareness of spirituality, meditation, compassion, sacrifice and other such Piscean overtones.

Because Pluto is conjunct your SN in Virgo in the 12th, this would suggest to me that you are able to approach your NN requirements via operating through the SN predisposition of Virgo in the 12th. A possible manifestation of Pluto here is that experiences of the body that involve maybe even transcending or refining is where you will tend to have intense transformative experiences. Some would say that because Pluto is here in the 12th conjunct the SN, this could mean that you have past life experiences that hold a secret and that by unearthing them they can be helpful in regeneration. So possibly there may be some health issues even that have been brought through the SN that need to be addressed.

The Mars square could even mean that a guy mentor might be involved in this resolution of the nodal block or you may have to get involved in debating with others of different varying beliefs so as to uncover the issues of the Pluto conjunct SN in Virgo in the 12th that is causing a problem for you being able to develop the NN in Pisces in the 12th. And, as everything has two sides to it, you may already be argumentaive and tend to debate as a form of escape in getting out of giving based on unconditional love and service. Or in terms of health and care of the body, you may tend to not take a much care and could be too practical about writing off and pooh- poohing body rituals that could involve essential essences and cleansing/purifying, for example. Conversely, making the body the temple of the soul, could hold a great appeal for you but you are not sure how to incorporate it within the framework of what you do and how you operate within your environment and what you believe in.

Mars in Sag in the third would lend a lot of passion and action motivation to writing about broader concepts or writing profusely.

The North Node trined by Neptune and therefore sextile the SN and also in contact with the Moon would suggest to me that fluids could have significance with your sixth house of work, service and daily routines. So all up I would say that there is this sense of the comfort of essences and liquids and music that help to cleanse and purify the body, or in work related terms a few examples might be supplying music to others or or working to save the whales maybe, lol.

You mention writing a few times and its encouraging to you to have similar placement to a writer that you admire. This is probably a hint to the dilemma of this Mars square and the placement of the Nodes.

Sometimes I can enter the framework of what is going on with aspects and placements but I'm finding I can't reach them and maybe its all the Neptunian influence as I just can't assimilate it and if feels it escapes me. Probably a good thing.

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posted June 21, 2013 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Starlight,
According to the skipped step idea, mentioned before on here by a few posters and advocated by evolutionary astrologers and others, your Mars is your skipped step.

So yes according to the skipped step idea a planet squaring the nodal axis has been termed a flag in the chart that indicates something from your past that needs to be resolved in order to progress and fulfill the requirements of the North Node which is your point of evolution. So in your case, your Mars is a skipped step that needs to be resolved. With it being in Sagittarius in the third house, then this would suggest that in order to fulfill your Pisces NN in the 6th you need to apply yourself to learning about philosophical/metaphysical/higher laws and generally systems of thoughts that expand your view on things so as to understand the nature of of operating in 6th house issues from the perspective of Piscean consciousness.

Because Mars is in the 3rd, this could well point to areas of knowledge that you need to actively seek in order to learn because something in your 'past' has not been addressed and is a block to the development of the NN requirements. This could mean that a course or series of courses that enabled you to learn, communicate, and philosophise on is required so as to develop a mode of operation towards health, daily routines that incorporates an awareness of spirituality, meditation, compassion, sacrifice and other such Piscean overtones.

Because Pluto is conjunct your SN in Virgo in the 12th, this would suggest to me that you are able to approach your NN requirements via operating through the SN predisposition of Virgo in the 12th. A possible manifestation of Pluto here is that experiences of the body that involve maybe even transcending or refining is where you will tend to have intense transformative experiences. Some would say that because Pluto is here in the 12th conjunct the SN, this could mean that you have past life experiences that hold a secret and that by unearthing them they can be helpful in regeneration. So possibly there may be some health issues even that have been brought through the SN that need to be addressed.

The Mars square could even mean that a guy mentor might be involved in this resolution of the nodal block or you may have to get involved in debating with others of different varying beliefs so as to uncover the issues of the Pluto conjunct SN in Virgo in the 12th that is causing a problem for you being able to develop the NN in Pisces in the 12th. And, as everything has two sides to it, you may already be argumentaive and tend to debate as a form of escape in getting out of giving based on unconditional love and service. Or in terms of health and care of the body, you may tend to not take a much care and could be too practical about writing off and pooh- poohing body rituals that could involve essential essences and cleansing/purifying, for example. Conversely, making the body the temple of the soul, could hold a great appeal for you but you are not sure how to incorporate it within the framework of what you do and how you operate within your environment and what you believe in.

Mars in Sag in the third would lend a lot of passion and action motivation to writing about broader concepts or writing profusely.

The North Node trined by Neptune and therefore sextile the SN and also in contact with the Moon would suggest to me that fluids could have significance with your sixth house of work, service and daily routines. So all up I would say that there is this sense of the comfort of essences and liquids and music that help to cleanse and purify the body, or in work related terms a few examples might be supplying music to others or or working to save the whales maybe, lol.

You mention writing a few times and its encouraging to you to have similar placement to a writer that you admire. This is probably a hint to the dilemma of this Mars square and the placement of the Nodes.

Sometimes I can enter the framework of what is going on with aspects and placements but I'm finding I can't reach them and maybe its all the Neptunian influence as I just can't assimilate it and if feels it escapes me. Probably a good thing.


Wow thanks a lot, Chryseis, I really appreciate you putting in the time and thought! I am going to mull over this and take in all that you typed. This will explain much.

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posted June 21, 2013 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I meant to mention, Noel Tyl, the well known astrologer, I think makes a correlation between planets in square, opposition, and conjunction being able to be equated to the point/planet they are aspecting.

With that idea in mind, Tyl says,

Mars and Lunar Node: Getting along with others; combined efforts pay off.

Mars and Pluto: Extreme force: persuasion; control; brutality; excessive effort.

Pluto and Lunar Node: Identification with a large group; making very important contacts; a life significant relationship.


Maybe, the intensity and forcefulness of your persuasion/point of view is making combined efforts a bit difficult in being able to get along with others and lend yourself to acceptance and unconditional modes of service. The flipside is that by applying yourself to understanding other's beliefs and points of view more this will assist you to give and be involved with others spiritually and harmoniously in everyday settings.

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