posted June 01, 2009 02:50 PM         

but also, a huge part of them is nervous and scared to leave the relationship, because for years, they've given so much of themselves, their being, their heart, their soul, to this one persn and relationship. but now with the prospect of leaving them arises, they can't seem to give in whatever the circumstances are.

they think that once they have ended the relationship, they won't have any of themselves left, since being with the person they love is all they know. they can't see a future without the person they love in the picture.

how would they cope with this dilemma? it seems as though once they are done with a relationship, it is final, but it seems more complex when it is THEM leaving on an account of themselves, and looking out for themselves. it'd be much easier if the person they are with cheated on them, then it would be ended immediately. but when there's love but also hurt mixed in, and the love is powerful and passionate, but the hurt is also the same, it seems that they are likely to favour the love, and ignore the hurt. the pain they feel is seething, but they continue with the relationship, as the love overpowers them and their being, they can't see themselves without it.

posted June 01, 2009 03:00 PM         

even after meeting and marrying someone else, he has remained very fond of and loyal to pallenberg, credits her with a lot of the inspiration and power that carried the stones through their earlier years,bought her a house and occasionally claims to have "two wives".

she being an aquarius and serious social pioneer seems to have no problem with this. i don't think they have "relations" anymore but she is part of the family. his typical quote on the subject"of course i love her, i'll always love her, but no way can i live with her, that's all..." of course i have no way of knowing what really goes on there but venus in scorp is incredibly loyal and understanding of the frailties of their loved ones, if a little twisted in their choices!

posted June 01, 2009 03:10 PM         

I think most people who do the dumping of a partner like a sack of potatoes can go on about their lives like the partner never existed.

regardless if they have Scorpio planets or pluto-aspects whatever

a lot of times, people who do get dumped like a sack of potatoes do find it hard to let go.....because they are so hurt and attached...in their painbodies

I have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio

my Venus in Scorpio in mutual reception with Pluto in Libra

posted June 01, 2009 03:48 PM         

as much as they want to fix things, it is draining, their life is slowly being faded away, and they cannot see their true selves anymore. it is all a blur.

posted June 01, 2009 03:51 PM         

I think whenever I have 'dumped' someone - after trying every way to make it work - I was already out of love with them though. That means they did *everything* possible to make sure there was no way I could keep on loving them without a degree of self-loathing and loss of self-respect. I just finish the work and make myself fall out of love by withdrawing myself completely from them emotionally.
I'll even warn them that this is happening, so it's not like it's a huge mystery. They know and I know that I've put in 110% into the relationship, so there is no way anything more can be asked of me. Detangling is a HUGE mess once the decision is made to cut, but usually it's the decision that's more painful than the act of leaving. I leave, and that's it.

posted June 01, 2009 04:51 PM         

I have a new found respect for Keith Richards. Who knew he was such a sap!

posted June 01, 2009 05:01 PM         

During one of the times after he dumped me he found another woman to hang out with. When he "got back together with me" he still hung out with the other woman. There were nights where I was lonely and wanted some companionship and he would rather spend it with the other woman so he didn't have to take the bus across the city to my place.

Towards the end we were split apart but sort of hanging out with each other till I gave him the gears and found another person to be with. He left me alone and started things with the other woman. 3 years into the "new relationship" he called wanted me back....while I was living commonlaw with another man. I suspect my mother gave the Libra my number.

I haven't heard from him in 7 years and I pray to God I don't hear from him again. My estranged mother is now one of his best friends and keeps in close contact with him and his wife - who have 3 or 4 children by now.

He had a song for me that described the relationship I had with him by Savage Garden - I want you song and in it it goes

Ooh I want you
I dont know if I need you
But ooh Id die to find out
Ooh I want you
I dont know if I need you
But ooh Id die to find out

or lyrics can be found at http://www.lyricsfreak.com/s/savage+garden/i+want+you_20122137.html

posted June 01, 2009 05:51 PM         

He sobered up and quit drinking - maybe I inspired him or something. Then in the 2nd year we got close - after I helped him with a place to live and then a month or so after things started getting rocky and I discovered that he was not a supportive or compassionate person.

Hmmmmmmmmm.....Not sure what attracted me to him....ha maybe my Venus sqaure Neppy thing in my chart....maybe felt sorry for him or something. His Venus trined my moon and his Aqua Moon sextiled my Aries sun.

posted June 01, 2009 06:14 PM         

Loyalty to an almost possessive way. I guess Scorps can be possessive. But these two people in my life, give me a sense that they would never do the dirty on me. So to break up with a deep connection (or possession) could be a painful ardous task.

Scorpios give the impression of giving their all. They have very deep strong emotions. I imagine that a Scorpion would have to feel their life is totally threatened before they 'destroy' before 'getting destroyed'.

Dad went off the wall at the end of his marriage. My partner was able to walk out on a long term relationship to grow into the person she wanted to be.

posted June 01, 2009 06:16 PM         

that reminds me!

I was romantically connected to a gal named Traci who knew a Libra man with Venus in Scorpio

he pretty much charmed her up, and she saw him as this great guy. She rejected me for that guy. I saw their synastry. we all knew each other online. I noticed the chemistry between the 2 of them. I suspected that he liked her because he gave me an impression that he did. I looked at their synastry, and I was concerned about his Neptune square her Venus and her Venus conjunct her Uranus.

I confronted him,and he told me that he liked her. I ended up confronting Traci,and she admitted that she liked him.

I fought for her too. I even gave her a poetry recital of poetry that I wrote to her. Well...that didn't work out.

when they got together, I was so jealous. I didn't think that it would work out either. I felt that he was the wrong guy for her. I suspected that he was an alcoholic for her. He always talked about wanting a drink when he was stressed. I felt that his Neptune square Venus could indicate not only an illusive relationship but that his alcoholism would be a problem.

A year after they got together, she was telling me of some problems. I asked "how is his drinking?" she told me that he drinks a lot. She ended up staying with him

a year later, she had doubts about the guy. She straight up told me that he was an alcoholic. she ended up moving in with him.
3 months later, he kicked her out. He was such a jerk. He called the cops on her because he wanted to be left alone. She even told me that he was drinking a lot every single day.

she ended up being interested in me again. A part of me didn't trust her because of the stuff with Daniel. I even showed her a poem that I wrote to her in the poetry recital, and she felt really bad. She was very sorry. I felt really bad. I felt a lot of resentment towards her. I admit that I sorta told her that I told her so in regards to how Daniel was. It took 3 years for my intuition about him to be confirmed, but until that time, I thought it was just insane jealousy.

she ended up telling me how Daniel had a history of beating up women. She talked to the mother of Daniel's daughter, and she found out that he beat her so badly that she had to see shelter.

but yeah...Daniel wasn't the sweet,charming man that she thought he was.....he was a very abusive,woman beating,alcoholic jerk.

I had gave the relationship a shot. Surprisingly,her exhusband (a different) that she keeps contact with talked to me, asking to give her a shot. She liked me that much that she told him about me. I was very touched by what he said and the fact that she told him about me. I realized that she really did like me, and I didn't have to worry about another Daniel situation.

However, I did break up with her because I couldn't let go of the past,and so I had problems trusting her. A part of me was thinking that if she and I were meant to be, she would have chosen me over Daniel in the first place.

but yeah

that's an example of serious jerk with Libra Sun and Scorpio Venus as well as Venus square Neptune in synastry.

she's married to a guy whose Neptune squares her Moon. He's very spiritual to the point that he talked about wanting to be a monk. At first, she acted like it was ok. I didn't buy it. Later on, she admitted that is not something that she wanted to hear.

She is a very nice woman who worked with special education needs children, and that's what attracted me to her in the first place. She has Dyslexia and ADHD herself. When she told me that,I felt more connected to her. She and I share Moon in Pisces. She has Aquarius Sun,Mercury,and Venus with Sagittarius Ascendant. Astrologically, she and I have major differences.

I wish her all the best though.

posted June 01, 2009 08:02 PM         

I find your statement very interesting:

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It took 3 years for my intuition about him to be confirmed, but until that time, I thought it was just insane jealousy.

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posted June 01, 2009 08:50 PM         

The bad libra/scorp I mentioned also was an alcoholic, before we met. He had stopped drinking when I knew him, but he started again, years later shortly before I broke off the friendship. He also hated women, but I don't know if he beat them. It wouldn't shock me, knowing him, but he never hit me.