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posted June 02, 2009 07:16 AM         

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So it's the usual Yes/No Horary question...
Will I have a relationship with this man???

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posted June 02, 2009 09:43 AM         

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Mercury (you) makes an applying square to Jupiter (him) so no

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posted June 02, 2009 01:32 PM         

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The answer is in the progressed charts. Venus-Sun. Venus-Venus. Venus-Mars, but this one is short term.

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posted June 02, 2009 02:28 PM         

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Actually, I would look at Uranus too since it's in the 7th, and reps the other. It's applying a sextile to Mercury, so I would say maybe yes, but since it's Uranus, be prepared for anything

I've read a square doesn't mean 'No' necessarily... as long as the planet's applying (and making an aspect), then it's not bad. A square might just mean some initial difficulty, but it's not an absolute 'No'.

But Jupiter (him) is in the 5th, so maybe he's not in the serious enough mind frame that she wants... that maybe the square too :/
I'd still remain open, though

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posted June 02, 2009 02:49 PM         

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I thought the whole point of horary was for a simple yes/no answer...no in-betweens?

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posted June 02, 2009 03:11 PM         

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It is, but I don't know how many of us are complete horary pros

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posted June 02, 2009 03:45 PM         

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How accurate are most horary readings?

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posted June 02, 2009 03:54 PM         

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If you believe astrology is accurate, then horary should be accurate too.

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posted June 02, 2009 04:01 PM         

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Actually Kim Falconer once told me that more fascinating than the actual answer it is to see the horary display each operson`s motives and psychology in a horary, and I have to agree with her.

A horary tells you much more than YES or NO, depending on the phrasing of the question.

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posted June 02, 2009 04:02 PM         

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Lucia, when done correctly I've found horary is really accurate.
I just know from getting a few professional horary reads in the past - all were spot on.
Horary isn't really like a tarot reading, or whatever, it's very black/white and there are no shades of gray. Which I guess is why people are meant to not be frivolous with their questions, and to also really know what it is they're asking.
That's sometimes the challenge too lol

EDIT: Yes, I agree with DD... it's a lot more than yes/no. It's interesting to listen to someone who really really knows horary because they describe what's going on in the situation almost exactly... it's pretty crazy.

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posted June 02, 2009 04:12 PM         

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Yes, lot's of things can be found within a horary reading (things happening between the two people), as I have witnessed myself, but essentially, it boils down to one definitive answer? That's what I thought.

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posted June 02, 2009 04:15 PM         

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I definitely agree with you, MVM.
Sometimes when ia m reading a horary interpretation it`s just almost creepy how exactly it reflects even feelings of the involved people.

And in my own case, well, the horary was usually spot on, just sometimes I did not want to see it. *Sighs*

Also, even if this horary said YES to a relationship. What does this mean?
Will this be a romantic relationship? Sexual? Business? Friendship?
Will the querent LIKE the relationship, will he or she even want to be in that relationship at the time it forms?
(BTW I once read a square can also mean that after several obstacles you get what you want just to realize that you do not want it anymore).

EDIT:
Kismet, yes I think, it boils down to a YES and NO, (at least for some time); i think that is why horary is being viewed as so accurate.

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posted June 02, 2009 04:33 PM         

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The answer is YES.

Significatits applying square.
Co significators applying trine.

His mind is on you and you are in his 3rd so he's thinking about it.
He is in your 5th.

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posted June 02, 2009 05:12 PM         

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I thought applying/separating indicated timing. Like applying square meant "right now, no" and separating trine meant "in the past, yes".

Just because he wants to be in a relationship with you doesnt mean its going to happen.

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posted June 02, 2009 05:46 PM         

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Well both sets of significatirs in this chart are applying

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posted June 02, 2009 07:02 PM         

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The main significators are an applying square, though. Applying = now/in the near future, square = no.

Although it should be noted that Venus and Mars are in mutual reception. BUTTTT Venus/Mars are both in detriment.

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posted June 02, 2009 07:25 PM         

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Well I have always observed that in a yes/no question all you need is an aspect and moon/sun trine (a) is an aspect.

Agree?

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posted June 02, 2009 07:25 PM         

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Well I have always observed that in a yes/no question all you need is an aspect and moon/sun trine (a) is an aspect.

Agree?

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posted June 03, 2009 12:25 AM         

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So, ruler of the AC is the sig of the person asking the question... how do you figure out the significator of the partner?

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posted June 03, 2009 12:30 AM         

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Is it the ruler of the DC for the partner? And the first applying aspect... by "first" aspect, what does that mean? Does that mean look for the closest aspect by degree and then see if it is applying or separating (I can only tell a or s by looking at the Additional Chart, I can't see it by just viewing a chart circle and have no idea if that is even possible or how to tell that...) or ?

How do you decide the "first aspect"?

***********EDITED TO ADD THAT
I opened Lucia's Horary 101 thread and found my answer in MyVirgoMask's link here: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782
Yayyy thank you MVM!

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posted June 03, 2009 12:46 AM         

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Yes, the partner is repped by the 7th/Dsc, and also whatever planets maybe in there too.

I've read the 'first aspect' as the first aspect on the chart (not the drawing), but I'm probably wrong LOL.

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posted June 03, 2009 01:19 AM         

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Oh, cool, you're welcome, MM!
I'll have to re-read that link too

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posted June 03, 2009 01:43 PM         

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I must admit I'm a bit confused!!!
Anyway! Thank you very much for your help!!!
I'll read again the answers and see what I can understand!
Lara, how did you do that with the houses...i'm in his 3rd house etc..what does it mean?

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posted June 03, 2009 01:49 PM         

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You are mercury in his 3rd. 3rd ruled by Venus so he is thinking about you.

You always look to the 3rd to see where his mind is at

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posted June 03, 2009 02:10 PM         

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I do not understand what you are saying about the houses? In a horary you mean that woman is Mercury and man is Jupiter?

In my horary He is in 8th house - interesting ha?

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