posted June 07, 2009 06:52 PM         

For the node question, Jan Spiller has written an excellent book called "astrology for the soul"

The nodes have been attributed to future life (north) and past life (south)
Or something similar, never know which
The n.node is where you need to head in this life to completes spiritual growth (or some rubbish like that) while the s.node is what you already have in abudance, guessing from past lives.

Not so far out, I like the way the nodes have been interpreted.

N.node in the 1st can mean: In the past (s.node in 7th house) you were all about relationships and the other person/partner.
In the present/future (n.node in 1st house) you need to concentrate on developing your personality and be a little bit selfish, rather than focusing on partner.

Selfish can seem a bad word, it is not. Very healthy to be selfish. Everything in moderation.

posted June 07, 2009 07:35 PM         

Taking a guess, 7th in composite is possibly "other" relationships. Maybe like your best mate and her partner, or does that go under 11th?

posted June 07, 2009 07:38 PM         

Zane Stein is probably the most well known Chiron pioneer. Also there is Melanie Reinhart, Barbara Hand Clow, and Eric Francis.

the astronomical oriented astrologers tend to study the centaurs and transneptunians.
Some even proposed names of centaurs that got accepted by astronomers. Nessus was the first of those.

actually I have been member of a yahoo group that specializes in centaurs,transneptunians since 2000.

Magi Society doesn't have the monopoly when it comes to the use of Chiron

here are keywords of Chiron according to Philip Sedgwick

Chiron: The wounded healer who possesses insight, wisdom and grace. Orbital Period: 50.27 yr.

Positive - healing, just, wise, fair, insightful, knowledgeable, skilled in arts, medicine, healing, philosophy, focused, positively full of one’s self, sense of soul’s purpose

Negative - opinionated, teaching others the lessons needed by oneself, wounding, corrupt, illicit, irritating demeanor, clinging, feeling homely or unwanted, estranged from parents

Mundane - healing of all types from allopathic medicine and surgery to chiropractic and all forms of homeopathy and naturopathy, soul retrieval, justice, mentoring programs, cave exploration, illegitimate offspring, archery

Ceremonial - soul retrieval, any natural healing modality, chiropractors, retreats - especially in caves, ceremonial chambers or kivas, making a talking stick or ceremonial arrow
http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

also here is Zane Stein's CHIRON AND FRIENDS site http://www.zanestein.com/chiron.htm

another thing

Chiron is said to link the orbits of Saturn and Uranus.
Saturn/Uranus midpoint is said to Chiron-sensitive. That means that aspects to Saturn/Uranus midpoint are like aspects to Chiron.

posted June 07, 2009 07:42 PM         

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Magi Society doesn't have the monopoly when it comes to the use of Chiron

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posted June 07, 2009 07:47 PM         

What about Ceres? It's a dwarf planet,and it's much larger than Chiron. That's why Ceres is classed as a dwarf planet and Chiron isn't. Another thing, the Greeks viewed the Virgo constellation as Ceres' Greek counterpart,Demeter.

quite a few kuiper belt objects are larger than Ceres.....especially Eris which is larger than Pluto. Makemake and Haumea are not much smaller than Pluto. Sedna,Orcus,Ixion are larger than Ceres. Varuna is not much smaller.

there is also another kuiper belt object nicknamed Snow White that is not much smaller than Sedna and larger than Orcus.

posted June 07, 2009 07:57 PM         

Somebody in the relationship might have been wounded too,and so require some type of healing.

there is also the possibility of getting hurt in the relationship too.

Chiron is known to be a maverick. It's a nonconformist with its highly eccentric orbit.
it could indicate the possibility of being a nonconforming relationship like there could be a considerable age difference, religious differences, interracial relationships.

Chiron also fits with "specialness" ...like things like special education, health problems, and other things that can be viewed as "special"

those are just possibilities. That doesn't mean that the Chiron aspects will manifest that way.

posted June 07, 2009 08:24 PM         

so it does have to do with pain and healing.

in mythology, Chiron was the son of Cronus and Philyra. His mother abandoned him because of his half human,half horse influence. That was his first wound. his father didn't accept him either.

Chiron taught was a mentor to great heroes like Heracles,Achilles. He taught the healing arts to Asclepius who surpassed him because he was the son of the healing god,Apollo.

he was accidentally wounded by Heracles by one of his poisoned Hydra blood tipped arrows when Heracles was fighting the other centaurs. The centaurs don't share the lineage of Chiron. They descend from the mortal,Ixion. There is a large kuiper belt object named Ixion.

It is said that he took Prometheus' place in the underworld to escape the pain of his wound that he couldn't heal.

Chiron like other centaurs is a nonconformist. It's hard to understand the energy unless you know it personally.

I have Chiron sextile Midheaven,North Lunar Node,trine Jupiter, and parallel Ascendant.

I can relate to the Chiron myth on a deep personal level when you consider things like my multiracial heritage, my history of special education, never knowing my father,and things like being abused by my mother and stepfather. Of course,my interest in the healing arts. I am certified in massage therapy.
I also want to help others with special education needs just like I was helped.

Chiron tends to compassion through painful experences.

using your experiences of pain to help others who have similar experiences.

Chiron was also said to be an astrologer, and used Astrology to understand the destinies of his pupils to help guide them in that direction.