posted June 11, 2009 05:46 PM
I believe that Neptune is strong in a neurodivergent. They are confusing and can easily be confused in some ways. They are hard to pin down,often misunderstood/misdiagnosed, and put on medication like antipsychotic,Risperdal have been used to treat behavior problems in people(especially children) with ADHD and Autistic Spectrum Disorders. Many of them are ultrasensitive(as in ultraresponsive to external stimuli which can be sensory integration issues) and highly imaginative types(which can fit with the visual thinking,nonlinear thought processesand high distractibility from an internal source). Many neurotypicals might even see them as deceptive in some way if they don't understand their neurodivergent weaknesses...i.e. many neurodivergents have problems with eye contact. It can be because of sensory integration issues or coordination issues that have problems as they have a hard time doing more than one thing at the same time. Having eye contact or not having eye contact with another during communications is often viewed as determining if somebody's being honest or not. Some have to pause before answering a question. This could be because of auditory input speech lags or being primarily a picture thinker with word thinking being secondary. Some might see that as being dishonest because they might think "well...he's obviously lying,he can't even give a straight answer"
Even disorganization and absentmindedness that many neurodivergents have can be mistaken for deception too.All the planets beyond Saturn are referred to as outerplanets, and so they are related to metaphysical energies. Uranus is the planet of liberation from boundaries as it breaks way with its need for independence,and it is associated with innovation and intuitive flashes. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism. Pluto is the planet of elimination of boundaries, and is compared to being the other side. This could be death,afterlife,or could be the subterranean depths of the human psyche. It is possible that Pluto's fellow transneptunian objects could be similar to Pluto. I believe that Pluto and its fellow transneptunians can be energies so metaphysical that they can be hard to handle and can manifest as problems on the physical plane such as serious health problems,psychiatric disorders, and even neurodivergence which are often subtle in their own way and very misunderstood. These aren't necessarily bad things. Neurodivergence tends to be very misunderstood,and it was unknown for a long time. The issues tend to be subtle. They have also been known as hidden handicaps.
With that in mind, I believe that it makes sense that the kuiper belt objects associated with unknown,hidden,subtleties could be indicators for neurodivergence.
I believe that Chiron does fit with special needs which often require special attention. Many children with special needs often grow up to be compassionate adults that care about children and others with special needs. Chiron can be about having painful experiences that lead you to be a compassionate person that care about others that have similar painful experiences.
Chiron is located between Saturn and Uranus.......so bridges the physical and metaphysical. It's considered holistic.....mind,body,spirit connection.
Saturn/Uranus midpoint is said to be Chiron-sensitive. That means that aspects to Saturn/Uranus midpoint is like aspects to Chiron.
think of the myth, Chiron
He was rejected by his parents, Cronos and Philyra because of his appearance as a centaur, but he ended up being a foster parent/mentor of many of the great heroes like Heracles,Jason,Achilles. He taught Asclepius to be a healer,and he was surpassed by that son of Apollo,the god of healing. Asclepius was the God of medicine.
Chiron was accidentally shot by Heracles with one of the poisoned arrows dipped in the Hydra's blood. He couldn't cure himself of the wound. He ended up taking Prometheus' place in the Underworld which led to the end of his pain.
Chariklo was his mate too. Chariklo is also the largest of the centaurs in our solar system. Like Chiron, it orbits between Saturn and Uranus. The difference is that it has an orbit less eccentric than Chiron. Centaurs named after females have less eccentric orbits than Centaurs named after males. The eccentricity of the orbits of the centaur celestial objects is like wild nature,noncomformity of the centaur creatures. That's why Chiron is viewed as a maverick.
It would make sense to think that if Chiron is involved in neurodivergent conditions, then maybe other centaurs are involved in neurodivergent conditions too.
Also kuiper belt object Ixion is named after the grandfather of the centaurs. Ixion was known for his lusty nature like his descendants. He actually got punished by Zeus for wanting and trying to get it on with Zeus' wife,Hera. a horny mortal man trying to get it on with the queen of the gods. hahahahaha. That's how lusty Ixion was.
Ixion is a big plutino(2nd largest plutino after Orcus), and it has 2:3 resonance with Neptune like Pluto. Its orbit is highly eccentric like Pluto's. Their orbits are similar to the orbits of centaurs with their eccentricity. They can be seen as wild,nonconformists.
I am going to look at it from the neurodivergent perspective too. That means that I don't view neurodivergence as a disorder. I view it as an alternative way of being and thinking which doesn't conform to the arbitrary rules of society. Therefore,I am not going to just focus on planetary afflictions which would be focus on just what's wrong with the person. I will focus on the easy aspects too as well as the esoteric aspect harmonics (5th,7th,9th,11th).
I am looking for harmonic aspect triangles,quadrilaterals or patterns with more than 4 objects. It's possible that a narrow orb esoteric aspect involvin a personal planet/point could be important,and that could be something to consider. I believe that this is especially the case for close orbed 5th harmonic aspects that include the quintile and biquintile which were devised by Johannes Johannes Kepler based on musical harmonic theory. It is said that he was skeptical of signs and houses in Astrology. It makes sense that he would think " the hell with the zodiac signs, I am coming up with my own aspects that have nothing to do with them". He opened the can of worms when he introduced minor aspects in Astrology. Even now,sesquiquadrates(devised by Kepler based on fiveness...5/8) and semisquaresare regularly used in Cosmobiology,seen on a 90 degree dial and Uranian Astrology as major aspects and regularly used with midpoints. Minor aspects are not necessarily minor, but they just require much smaller orbs than regular aspects. Minor aspect patterns have corresponding midpoint pictures. Even the golden section aspect(devised by Theodor Landscheidt) triangles have corresponding midpoint pictures. All midpoint pictures are harmonic aspect patterns any way. It's just that the ones that aren't of the 12th harmonic series(conjunction,opposition,square,sextile,semisextile,quincunx) are not easily seen in the regular chart.
5th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:
It is said to be a quality similar to Pluto,with overtones of Venus and Mars: some kind of concrete creation or destruction is effected. Intellectual functions (not excluding emotion) and all especially human matters. Transformational change. The ability to express creative inspiration (due to other factors) in concrete creations. Many neurodivergents have obsessive traits. Many are highly emotional,intense and have history of emotional outbursts,emotional meltdowns which might be viewed as temper tantrums and can be destructive. Many of them can be a bit obsessive and hyperfocus,especially when it comes to interests. This could make them very good researchers. Because they think are lateral outside the box thinkers,they can be very creative. Many of them are in creative,artistic fields. The 10th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects (0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.
7th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:
I check the 7th harmonic first because the 7th harmonic is said to have Uranus-Neptune flavor,energy linkings not entirely of this world as well as creative inspiration,but also mental and emotional difficulties and tenuous connectedness with the physical universe;religion.
There could be an otherworldliness about neurodivergents. Mental and emotional difficulties seems like it would fit with neurodivergence too. Also the 7th harmonic could be about the sublteties of existence, and neurodivergents tend to be extremely sensitive to subtleties that they can be easily overwhelmed,overstimulated by their environment. The 14th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects (0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.
9th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:
The 9th harmonic is said to be about completions,endings;what life produces in the long run;needs and capacities in relationships and marriage. It seems that the 9th harmonic harmonic has to do with the big picture and wholeness(the integration of halves,parts into a cohesion....like the mind,body,and spirit.....or yin and yang....or. Many neurodivergents are global learners, and they tend to be good at seeing the big picture. Of course, many people only see parts of them whether it's just their weaknesses or just their strengths and not both their strengths and weaknesses. The 18th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects(0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.
11th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence.
David Cochrane(creator of Kepler Astrology Program) says that any aspect that has 11 in the denominator is very unstable, erratic, impatient, and rebellious which fit with neurodivergence quite a bit because they are not naturally conforming to arbitrary rules of society in regards to their physical being and thinking. Some other astrologers say that the 11th harmonic is associated with social consciousness and the ability to reach beyond oneself for help which I also believe is common with many neurodivergents who are strongly aware and tolerant of differences because of their own differences which lead them to raise awareness about differences in people. From the looks of it,it seems that these aspects have an Aquarius/Uranian flavor.
even the harmonic-oriented astrologer, Adze wrote:
An Undecile occurs when two planets are plus or minus thirty-two degrees, forty-three minutes and seven seconds apart (approximately thirty-three degrees). An undecile is one-eleventh of a circle. Undeciles indicate psychic gifts. Where undeciles are found, modifications are required. Undeciles relate to the power of computers, science and technology. Undeciles resonate with Uranus, Fixed, Air and Aquarius energy. www.adze.com/Classroom/aspects.html
Many neurodivergents are attracted to computers,science,and techology and make a living in those fields. Some believe that high functioning autistics,Aspergers are great in those areas. Some think that a lot of computer geeks might even have an autistic spectrum disorder.
There hasn't been much posted about the strengths of neurodivergence which can be used to compensate for their weaknesses.
Asperger’s Syndrome often allows a student to show:
* Intense concentration on studying
* Independence
* An affinity with computers and other technology
* Good formal essay writing
* Attention to detail and precision
* Original ideas
* Reliable meeting of deadlines.
Positive aspects of dyscalculia
focus on difficulties. Dyscalculic people often have strengths as well, such as:
* Creativity
* Strategic thinking
* Practical ability
* Love of words
* Intuitive thinking
* Problem-solving
Positive aspects of dyspraxia
Most books and web sites on dyspraxia focus on difficulties. Dyspraxic people often have strengths as well, such as:
* Creativity
* Determination
* Motivation
* Strategic thinking
* Problem-solving
Positive aspects of dyslexia
Most books and web sites on dyslexia focus on difficulties with reading, writing and memory tasks. Dyslexic people often have strengths as well, such as:
* Creativity
* 3 dimensional thinking
* Seeing the 'whole picture'
* Pictorial thinking
* Divergent thinking
* Problem solving
* Making unexpected connections
ADHD is part of what might be called ‘neurodiversity’. Its indicators can overlap with dyslexia in respect of lack of concentration and difficulties with personal organisation. On the other hand, there are said to be some potential advantages of this kind of brain:
* Ability to see the ‘big picture’
* Being creative and inventive
* Ability to focus intensely for a time
* High levels of energy
* Risk-taking can lead to discoveries
* Being intuitive
One of the more disturbing indicators of Tourette Syndrome are vocal and muscular tics (coprolalia/copropraxia) in the form of expletives, socially taboo words and obscene and inappropriate gestures. The person with TS cannot control these urges and can often become scorned upon by other people. Coprolalia/copropraxia are only present in less than 30% of Touretters (Packer,94), however because of media stereotypes these are the symptoms the general public often and only associate with Tourette Syndrome.
Whilst the indicators discussed may seem negative, there are also positive characteristics of TS as there are in many types of neurodiversity. These can include:
*Excellent musical abilities.
*Memory capable of almost “total recall”.
*Excellent peripheral perception.
*Laser-like concentration.
http://brainhe.com/
In Medical Astrology, Mercury is said to be associated with the nervous system and Moon is said to be associated with the brain itself according to Cosmobiologists,Uranian Astrologers. I also want to point out there are other views of what planet/point is associated with the brain. I believe that the Moon makes a lot of sense because Moon is associated with bodily fluids. We do have fluids in our brain called cerebrospinal fluid. Drinking water is very important for brain functioning. Dehydration can lead to problems with dizziness.
Other things that I will consider is the travel rate of both Moon and Mercury. Both are involved in processing information. The average daily motion of the Moon is 13 degrees,10 minutes. If the Moon's daily motion is slow,it could indicate slowness in processing information which has nothing to do with intelligence level. If the Moon's travel rate is fast, it could indicate quick emotional reactions to things. The person with a fast moon might even be seen as being too emotionally reactive which is typical of neurodivergents with sensory integration issues
The average daily motion of Mercury is 59 minutes,14 seconds. If the Mercury's daily motion is slow, it could indicate slowness in processing information which has nothing to do with intelligence level. If the Mercury's travel rate is fast,it could indicate quick mental reactions to things. It can even be a hyperactive nervous system which is typical of neurodivergents with hyperactivity.
Those are some things that I would check out when looking at charts of neurodivergents. I don't want to focus on just their weaknesses. Their strengths should also be looked at imho. My view is that they are not disordered but different.
Different doesn't necessarily mean deficient. We all have our differences in one way or another? Does that mean that we are deficient? People who think "my way is the right way" might believe in that. Many people that believe in diversity don't. Norms are based on what the majority of society believes is right and acceptable. Norms are relative. What's normal in one society is abnormal in another society. As astrologers, practicing Astrology is normal to us, but it's abnormal to many others that don't believe in Astrology. As astrologers, we are convergent in regards to our views and practices. To the outside observer, we are divergent.
That's how I view neurodivergence and the concept of neurodiversity.
Raymond
Lindaland
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