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Lucia23
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posted June 14, 2009 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does the asteroid Union work in a natal chart?

How about in transits or synastry? Are you more likely to join with someone when transiting Union is conjunct your natal angles or personal planets?

Is it about formal marriage, or other kinds of joining? Sex? (With one man I have lust after, my Union is conjunct his Mars-Venus conjunction, his Eros, and his Karma. With another, my Union is square his Venus, sextile his Mars, and conjunct his Eros.)

How do you read Union in a chart?

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posted June 14, 2009 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my mom's Union conj my dad's Sun (2), my brother's Union conj his wife's Chiron in the 7th ... I had a thread about it somewhere ...

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when my dad met my mom, in his chart:

her transiting name asteroid was conj Jupiter 10R and MC,
t.Karma was conj his natal Sun,
t.Union conj natal Karma,
t.NN conj Lust,
my dad's name asteroid conj natal Destinn
t. Destinn conj DSC
t. Jupiter R10 and Neptune conj my mom's name asteroid

in her chart:

t. asteroid Karma conj Union
my dad's name asteroid conj Jupiter R7 and DSC
t. Venus conj Karma
t. Persephone conj Moon
t. Valentine/Lust trine natal Union/Uranus


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posted June 14, 2009 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ mentions Union in his Syn Calc Update. So, it must have some significance!!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/200943.html

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posted June 14, 2009 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natally i have union conjunct exact my mars.
My man interestingly, has union conjunct exact his vertex!

In synastry we have:
my union square his NN/valentine (1)
my union quincunx his vertex/union (1)
my union sextile his eros (1)
his union trine my moon/venus/saturn/NN/amor (4/2/2/5/1)
his union quincunx my proserpina/valentine (1)
his union trine my amor (1)

I do believe that our love is so strong that we will be together for a long time. Not sure about marriage though.


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posted June 14, 2009 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Union seems to relate to some form of bonding, or at least the wish to do so.

And the planets / asteroids which are being aspected seem to indicate the nature of the (desired) bonding. So, if Union aspects Eros or Lust, it might be the wish for a sexual connection, or if Union aspects Amor (like in Lara`s case. BTW I love oyur DW ), the nature of the connection might be about unconditional love or intimacy.


It also seems like the planet`s person projects their planets on the Union person, so that the Union-person wishes for a connection, which is described by the planets that form the aspect.

Lucia,
in your case it was your Union aspecting his Venus, Mars and Eros and you said it was YOU who lusted for him.

IN my case,
my Union is conjunct Jude`s Moon, and I probably wish for some sort of emotional connection, and it seems like it`s me with the emotional attachmetn.

But of course I could be wrong about that.

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posted June 14, 2009 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the synastry between me and my bf we have:

- his DC/Union/Destinn conjunct my AC (1/0/2);
- his Amor oppose my AC (3);
- his Union square my Saturn/Valentine/MC (2/0/0);
- my Union trine his Amor (1), sextile his Valentine (0), trine his AC (3);


In the first time we met..

- his Union sextile tMars (0), square tDestinn/tUnion/tBML(0/2/1);

- tUnion trine his Amor (2);

- my Union conjunct tSaturn/tValentine (0/2), trine tCupido (2);

- tUnion oppose my Mars (2), conjunct my DC/Jupiter (0/2), trine my Uranus (0);


And finally when we started dating..

- his Union sextile tVenus (1), square tAmor/tValentine (0/0);

- tUnion trine his Sun (0), quincunx his Venus and Chiron (1/0), trine his Amor (3), square his Valentine (0), sextile his Cupido (0);

- my Union trine tSun (1), oppose tChiron (0), sextile tJuno (1), conjunct tValentine (3), semi-sextile tUnion (1);

- tUnion oppose My Mars (3), conjunct my DC (3), trine Uranus (1).


(note: we started dating after 19 days since meeting ^_^; )

There were also some cute aspects between Amor/Destinn/Karma too! X3

Another interesting thing was that in his Solar Return chart of 2005/2006 (we met/started at December 2005), he also had exact conjunct Sun/Union.
I didn't look at more details nor at the progressed charts yet, but I need to stop here and go back to my studies lol. ^_^;;

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posted June 14, 2009 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It also seems like the planet`s person projects their planets on the Union person, so that the Union-person wishes for a connection, which is described by the planets that form the aspect.

Lucia,
in your case it was your Union aspecting his Venus, Mars and Eros and you said it was YOU who lusted for him.


DD, yes! This makes sense, it looks like Union shows where and how a person wants to make a connection with another.

Everyone who just posted a list of your Union aspects with someone:
Please describe the nature of the relationship and the real-life ways you think those Union aspects might play out.

Peri: what are the Union aspects in your parent's synastry?

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Lara
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posted June 14, 2009 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you DD. I think it's bonding too.
Do you mean my valentine/union DW?

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posted June 14, 2009 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

no I was talking about the Amor-Union DW, imo it`s stronger as it is more harmonious. And for "love-asteroids" I prefer the harmonious aspects.

"Sex-asteroids" enjoy some tension, but too much tension in emotional context is not good.

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posted June 14, 2009 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my mom's Union conj my dad's Sun (2)sextile his Vertex (0)
my dad's Union conj my mom's Union (4)

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posted June 14, 2009 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and my bf has been together for 3 years and almost half. X3 Our relationship is warm, comfortable and affectionate.
How Union plays out in our relationship, I guess that it gives a sense of wanting to be together and seeing the other person as the one to unite with, but I'm not really sure. ^_^;

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posted June 14, 2009 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do people the same age or around the same age automatically have Union-Union conjunctions?

Comica23, looking at your synastry, I wonder whether the relationship feels just slightly more wonderfully comfortable to you (as in, "What a great guy! This feels right,") and just slightly more hot-epic-thrilling to him (as in, "I must rip her clothes off right now! This is the most alluring, exciting, etc etc girl I've ever seen ever!") It looks like a nicely balanced attraction, but also like more trines and pleasantness from your side, more edgy, crush-causing stuff from his.

Although, I'm still a little lost on who feels what: so, in a Union-Lust conjunction, the Union person would feel lustful towards the Lust person, and the Lust person would feel....??

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posted June 14, 2009 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do people the same age or around the same age automatically have Union-Union conjunctions?

I think not, someone a year older than me has Union 70 degrees apart from mine

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posted June 14, 2009 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you guys talking about squares/oppositions too? Or just conjunction/sextile/trine?

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posted June 14, 2009 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg Lucia23, hot-epic-thrilling LOLOL~~ XD

Hmm I guess that when we met, he might have idealized me a bit in a Piscean way, while I liked him too yet I'm not exactly sure how I really felt back then (it was all too sudden!!). But well, about the hot-epic-thrilling thing.. *blush* aside of the Amor/Karma/Union/Destinn/other asteroids aspects, we have:

- his Lust conjunct my NN (1), semi-sextile my Venus/BML (1);

- my Lust opposes his Moon (2), square his NN/MC (1/0), conjunct his Vertex/Karma (3/0);

- his BML conjunct my DC (3);
(there are some other BML aspects but this is the most relevant);

- in the draconic synastry, his Lust falls on my Moon/Venus/Mercury/BML stellium;

- there were also a few number of aspects with Lust in the transits (mostly to Neptune/Venus/Juno and other asteroids)/SR charts, and maybe progressed charts too.

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posted June 14, 2009 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, I think that Union doesn't seem to move slow, so that this asteroid can still be relevant, specially if we use small orbs. X3

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posted June 14, 2009 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Union is conj exactly my Venus. My Venus is unaspected in my natal chart and is so too in our synastry. I love him because he promised me a union.

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posted June 14, 2009 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting asteroid, that "Union". Maybe some of you want to make a bet/share your impressions: We have ONE GUY here - torn between two ladies (A & B). Looking at the "Union"-connections ... which Lady would be the better choice for him for a substantial and long lasting relationship? Lady A or Lady B? (Anything else that comes to your minds here...?)

orbs 0-3 dg:

With Lady A:

HIS "UNION"
- cj. A's Aphrodite
- sextile A's Venus
- sextile A's Valentine
- sextile A's Achilles
- trine A's Lust
- trine A's North Node
- trine A's Lucifer
- trine A's Icarus
- square A's Mars
- square A's Mercury
- square A's Humptydumpty
- oppose A's Juno
- oppose A's Ceres

A's "UNION"
- cj. his Mars
- cj. his Circe
- cj. his Pt. of Love
- sextile his Sun
- sextile his Hera
- sextile his Fantasia
- trine his Jupiter
- trine his Karma
- trine his Amanda
- trine his Pt. of Weddings
- square his Desire
- square his Anacreon
- square his Melancholia
- oppose his Veritas


With Lady B:

HIS "UNION"
- cj. her Desdemona
- sextile her Sappho
- sextile her Lust
- sextile her Fantasia
- sextile her Storm
- sextile her Fanatica
- sextile her Veritas
- trine her Moon
- trine her Jupiter
- trine her Concordia
- square her Valentine
- square her Anacreon
- square her Clinch
- oppose her North Node
- oppose her Amanda

B's "UNION"
- cj. his Fantasia
- cj. his Storm
- sextile his Mars
- sextile his Circe
- sextile his Karma
- sextile his Medea
- trine his Sun
- trine his Pt. of Disappointment
- square his Venus
- square his Don Quixote
- square his Pavlov
- square his Drakonia
- oppose his Jupiter
- oppose his Amanda
- oppose his Pt. of Weddings

Interestingly enough, both Ladys's "Union" form connections to his Sun / Mars / Jupiter / Karma / Circe / Fantasia / Pt. of Weddings ...

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posted June 14, 2009 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So many asteroids. O_o hmm maybe it's better to focus on the most important ones.

By the way.. asteroid Circe.. Anyone has any info about it?? In the other thread (the Pluto/Persephone one I guess), it's mentioned that Odysseus was unfaithful to his wife (can't remember the name) with Circe. So maybe aspects between Odysseus/Circe can be relevant.

But well, no matter what, he has to figure it out by himself, and not by astrology..


I've just discovered that my bf's Fantasia conjunct my Sun~ XD *happy*

Maybe someday it would be cute to list all the asteroids with cute generic names for a generic view of relationships (like Lovejoy, Fantasia, Memoria and such).

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posted November 14, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need to share this incredibly funny and accurate discovery of mine: Union conjunct BML. I love astrology

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted November 15, 2013 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, this thread reminded me of he old times ahah. XD I'm comica23... Now married to my bf, who is my husband now.

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posted November 15, 2013 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
. Now married to my bf, who is my husband now.

Hey, congratulations. That is wonderful.

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posted November 15, 2013 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Asteroid Astrology.

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