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meta_4
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posted June 16, 2009 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow.. i feel like i'm posting a lot lately!..

ANYWHO,

I've been wondering about this a lot lately- what placements would make one androgynous? Or attracted to androgyny?

I've taken a look at some charts, and i think for females androgyny comes when they have more "masculine" placements (personal planets in fire or air, and also ASC).

Thoughts? Experiences?

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amowls*
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posted June 16, 2009 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus square Chiron, Venus square Mars, maybe Venus square Uranus.

I luv girly men.

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GypseeWind
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posted June 16, 2009 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me too!
Johnny Depp, whew!

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kfn327
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posted January 13, 2011 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kfn327     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My male friend who prefers a feminine gender expression is Libra/Scorpio Moon/ASC unknown.

My female friend who prefers an androgynous gender expression is Cancer/Leo Moon/Leo Rising.

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Randall
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posted January 13, 2011 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find I get a lot of positive female attention when I am wearing black nail polish and guyliner.

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AcousticGod
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posted January 13, 2011 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've taken a look at some charts, and i think for females androgyny comes when they have more "masculine" placements (personal planets in fire or air, and also ASC).

Nice to see you back!

I think you're probably right.

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littlecloud
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posted January 13, 2011 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like my men to look like men. Not men that think they look like men and proclaim their masculinity while they spend 3 hours a day making kissy faces at themselves in the mirror.

Anyway..
This girl I knew that liked the androgynous type was a Cancer sun with Venus conjunct Mars in Leo. She dated a guy who had been self-proclaimed gay.

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Glaucus
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posted January 13, 2011 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All my big 3 are in feminine signs
Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Pisces, Virgo Ascendant
even my chart ruler Mercury and Venus are in Scorpio,and they conjunct

my Mars is in Aquarius which is a masculine sign,but it is considered nontraditional


Transneptunian dwarf planet Haumea is conjunct/oppose my Ascendant/Descendant axis and square my Ascendant/Midheaven axis
Haumea is named after the Hawaiian Goddess of Fertility and Childbirth, and so a female archetypal energy

My Sun opposes transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate Sedna in Right Ascension
Sedna is named after the Inuit Sea Goddess,and so a female archetypal energy

My Sun oppose/conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet Eris Nodes (both geocentric and heliocentric)
Eris is named after the Greek Goddess of Discord, and so a female archetypal energy

My Sun is conjunct 4 asteroids named after mythical females within 1 degree orb

Athor - Egyptian Goddess of Love
Selqet - Egyptian Scorpion Goddess
Aurora - Roman Goddess of the Dawn
Ariadne - mythological Greek Princess, aided Theseus in killing the minotaur
Iphigenia - mythological Greek Princess, sacrificed for winds of Troy


My Sun is conjunct true Black Moon Lilith (oppose/conjunct lunar perigee/apogee) under half a degree orb, and that's a female archetype


wear my hair very short and having some facial hair helps to be less androgeous,younger looking

I can't do much for my voice though
I am very soft-spokened and high pitched.


I have high estrogen levels too, and I have the very feminine finger ratios (my index fingers longer than my ring fingers) which suggests that I was exposed to more estrogen in my mom's womb.
This makes me more emotional,sensitive than the average male, and even more likely to be monogamous
It also makes me more likely to be less fertile than the average male too


I am mostly attracted to very sweet,soft,feminine looking women , but they also tend to be nontraditional types.
I can really fall in love with feminist types of women.

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mochai
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posted January 13, 2011 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my more effeminate boyfriends who had experimented with the same sex had leo sun/venus/merc, libra pluto, scorp sat/mars, sag uranus/nept, cap jupiter, and moon in gemini. So 7 planets in masculine signs (asc unknown).

I have 7 planets in feminene signs including moon and sun/asc in masculine.. so 3 planets in masculine. I'm a sag sun though and the women with that sign tend to dress more masculine. I like feminene men with a medium to deep timbred voice I'm also semi-androgynous. I consciously act like a man or talk in a lower voice to scare off men though, but part of my nature is exceedingly feminene and childlike. Men love my female voice, so I have to hide that. As far as gender preference, women are beautiful but that's where it ends.

I know people usually say scorpio is a strait sign, but I just wanted to say that I knew a huge lesbian who was scorpio.

Oh yeah, I was exposed to slightly more testosterone in the womb than the average female. My ring finger is longer than my index finger, but only slightly. My corpus callosum is the size of a woman's however (fmri ).

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Lonake
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posted January 14, 2011 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strong Mercury
Strong Uranus
Strong Saturn

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mochai
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posted January 14, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My most effeminate boyfriend (asc unknown, but I did a divination for the degree and got that) He's also literally a genius. http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/xatnes/000.gif

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/xatnes/solrclnat.gif mine.. I have androgynous features and like androgynous men

I would show more boyfriends but I don't think they are comfortable being considered effeminate.

Edit: That reminds me. My most recent boyfriend wore eyeliner and painted his nails before I met him. On the other hand, I don't really consider him effeminate. http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/xatnes/clr.gif

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Agent_009
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posted January 14, 2011 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
META,

Hey it's been awhile. How's film school treating you?? & how'd your first gig turn out??


I think I'm a gender bender. I know I dont look the part, but many people comment I am like a guy stuck in a girl's body...especially my male coworkers. Interestingly enough, when I was age 3 or 4, I actually DID think I was a boy. It was kind of strange. As a child I wasnt interested in playing with dolls, or dressup. I liked hotwheels, lego, Transformers, that sorta stuff.

In terms of what am I sexually attracted to? I dont want to label myself anything. I'm just attracted to the right soul in whatever container it comes in.


- Libra stellium.
- Venus square Mars.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted January 14, 2011 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
I find I get a lot of positive female attention when I am wearing black nail polish and guyliner.


Guyliner? Eyeliner for boys?? oh,girls don't mind sharing...

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VenusDiSirius
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posted January 14, 2011 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Offbeat/structuralist mercury :virgo,cappy,asc
Asc in aspect with uranus
Asc ruler in aspect with uranus
Moon in aspect with uranus

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woah cakes
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posted January 15, 2011 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm! i am very androgynous and usually prefer males with a strong feminine side. i have a strong mercury, mars, uranus and saturn (i think?? does being conj NN help?). interesting. also my sun and rising are masculine.

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