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Alia
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posted June 18, 2009 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
,,im so frustrated!
maybe i m an impatient aries but i was waitin for this transit for years and so far has been totally uneffective.

my ex who im still in love with kind of talks to me again after 2 years of silence but nothin is really moving forward.
maybe neptune invalidates the transit?

some one told me that for sure somethin will happen when jupiter goes back retro on my DC, which will be around september.

why would work better on the retro motion?
maybe cos i have 4 retro planets in my chart?

thank you

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savanna20
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posted June 18, 2009 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Care to post your chart?

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Glaucus
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posted June 18, 2009 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Cosmobiologists believe that soft aspects like trines and sextiles are psychological aspects

They believe that hard aspects including conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,and sesquiquadrate are event aspects.
only those aspects are used with midpoints and solar arcs.

so if they see transiting Jupiter square Venus, they don't see it as necessarily challenging. They will also check midpoints that are aspecting Venus like say Jupiter/Pluto is conjunct Venus and Midheaven/Node is square Venus


so they would write it out like this:

Transiting Jupiter = Natal Venus = Jupiter/Pluto = Midheaven/Node


I tend to lean more towards Cosmobiology when it comes to events

trines and sextiles are to me aspects that don't really seem to produce anything unless going out and taking action. like waiting for a relationship to happen

the conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,and sesquiquadrate are like in your face and so push you to act any way. looking for a relationship,and pursuing it....expressing how you feel to the person


Transiting Jupiter conjunct your descendant can indicate a possible event that bring about a relationship

the houses aren't used in Cosmobiology, but they use the angles. They stay the same.

the incorporate the meanings of the Descendant into the Ascendant and the Imum Coeli into the Midheaven

Ascendant is viewed as having to do with relationships,environment,interactions with others.

They view the Midheaven as the 'I', the individual self.

they don't see any different between the conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,and sesquiqudrate, and so they use the equal sign for aspects.

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Alia
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posted June 18, 2009 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
thanks..here is my chart

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Alia
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posted June 18, 2009 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
wow Raymond thats interesting...
i always had the feeling, in my ignorance, that sextiles were lame...
i had trust in trines tho, cos they seem to tie smoothly people with trine luminaires

so put it that way all aspects are the same?
is a little confusing..

midpoints and arcs are more specific than aspects, i tend to believe..

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Glaucus
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posted June 18, 2009 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I checked

transiting Jupiter for you

I use an orb of 3 degrees for conjunction,opposition,square transits
that's applying
1 degree orb separating

Cosmobiologists believe that events happen when those aspects are within 1 degree. They use the same orb with midpoint.
so when a planet,point is transited, the midpoints to those planets,point is transited at the same time


Transiting Jupiter will be in opposition to your Ascendant starting September 11th

it goes direct in 17'10 Aquarius on October 14th
and the transit ends on November 2nd when Jupiter is in 17'49 Aquarius


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DD
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posted June 18, 2009 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well, trines may be comfortable in synastry and give some sense of harmony, but I have never really experienced them as active in transits.
I think it`s like glaucus said, the hard aspects produce effects, depending on the nature of the planets, or at least they demand our attention.
(actually they also do in synastry, they are really "shouting" aspects)

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DD
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posted June 18, 2009 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, that does mean it will be conjunct my Moon on 17 Aqua! Somehow I missed that, but seems significant; at least it was when it transited my Moon for the first time.

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Alia
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posted June 18, 2009 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
thanks Raymond...
wow september 11th,,
hard to forget such date

i ll post follow up

this jupiter retro must do something

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Lonake
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posted June 19, 2009 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
have you noticed being brought into contact with more people? or an increased need for a relationship? jupiter should be bringing interested persons your way, but it hinges on whether or not they're your cuppa.

re jup rx i think when it moves over initially sometimes planets pave the way and then when there's retro and it moves forward certain things are put into place (manifest) - i've noticed this with my jupiter returns..just another opinion

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Alia
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posted June 19, 2009 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
yes lonake i m having people around showing interest in me more than usual maybe but im stuck in the past w my lost love..
which now talks to me again so i was hoping for reconnection

so no one else stir my interest
also yes a more intense need for a relationship but not with someone random..
with him...

countdown until jupiter retro on my 7th!

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amowls*
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posted June 19, 2009 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
The only trine aspect that I've felt was Neptune trine Moon.. it's made me more emphatic. But it hasn't brought about events.

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Glaucus
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posted June 19, 2009 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
yeah

I had the same situation

transiting Jupiter trine my Ascendant and transiting Uranus trine my Venus ...they occurred at the same time

nothing happened....no relationship stuff

I wasted my opportunities, hoping my exgf,Meghann would come back.

if I had gotten off my butt and enjoyed myself, maybe I could have met a woman that I could have a relationship with.

at the same time, transiting Saturn was conjuncting/opposing my Ascendant/Descendant axis and squaring my Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis


I am looking forward to transiting Jupiter returning to a square to my Venus, at the same time it will conjunct my Moon/Node midpoint which is connections,associations with women and square my Sun/Jupiter and Sedna/Midheaven midpoint.

my Venus,Sedna,Midheaven are in 9th harmonic aspect to each other.

also currently transiting Sedna is opposing my Venus and Sun/Jupiter midpoint,conjuncting my Sedna/Midheaven midpoint and square my Moon/Node midpoint
so that can be a significant relationship transit. it can be good if go for a spiritually oriented womanr and refrain from victim types who might end up hurting me....say...she gets dumped by her boyfriend.....I am a rebound, then later on she dumps me for somebody else..maybe somebody more macho because they think that I am too feminine (My Sedna oppose my Sun and sextile my Moon...especially close in Right Ascension). That could be a negative of the Sedna.

a positive of the Sedna is maybe end up meeting a gal at the interfaith unity church that I am a member of,at some intuitive,holistic healing arts festival, spiritual consciousness seminar classes,at some environmental awareness group stuf,or maybe involved with special education needs stuff.


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belgz
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posted June 19, 2009 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
yes i have neptune trine my moon now, and i feel the same. No events. I have jupiter trine my moon and i dont even feel any better. Then again uranus is square my moon and no events yet. Well i did break up with my bf but who cares, its nothing new 2 me. Moon is the ruler of my 11th and jupiter rules my 3rd and 4th. Neptune rules 7th and uranus rules my 6th.
Uranus seems to have worked with the square aspect causing sudden problems with work. I guess i am travelling overseas at the moment and i have moon in 9th but thats not major for me. I have 2 trines and nothng spectacular. How boring!

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Alia
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posted June 19, 2009 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
i have neptune trine moon too right now and im spending sh!tloads of money on psychic readings is not even funny.

the other night i woke up suddenly with a knowing somethin that wanted me to wake up to let me know he will be back and we ll be together. it wasnt a voice or a dream , just a mere knowing like an entity of its own life

neptune stuff i believe,,

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Glaucus
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posted June 19, 2009 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

must be nice to have transiting Neptune trine Moon. I will never have that aspect.

transiting Neptune will be conjuncting my Moon starting April 2011, sensitizing an already too sensitive Moon in Pisces square Neptune


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Alia
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posted June 19, 2009 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
raymond are u kiddin me conjunction is probably 100* more powerful than trine,.
wow u must be highly psychic

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Glaucus
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posted June 19, 2009 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

trine is ease and harmony

the conjunction is intense and it activates my t-square

My Moon squares the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd

It trines my Sun in Scorpio in 2nd


I feel that there can be considerable challenges with the conjunction to my Moon.
hopefully, my mom's health problems won't get worse.


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belgz
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posted June 20, 2009 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
when neptune made its first trine aspect that week evrythng i dreamt of came true. My aunty died and my bf had a grinder cut his face. I was scared of sleeping and dreaming lol. But i havnt had anymore of those dreams. Moon is my 11th house ruler of dreams also. But i assumed neptune ruler of my 7th trine moon in 9th would bring me marriage overseas haha. Lol....dreaming again.

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Alia
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posted June 20, 2009 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
doesnt 11th house refer to dreams as if they were hopes, desires, not actual dreams?

maybe 12th is more the house of dreams ?

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posted June 20, 2009 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Alia,

I agree

Moon is my 11th house ruler,and Sun is my 12th house ruler,and they trine each other

11th house is more about hopes,wishes for the future
12th house is more about the collective unconscious, dreams


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DD
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posted June 20, 2009 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Raymond,

I`ve had the conjunction of Neptune to my Moon recently (my Moon is on 17 Aquarius), and it wasn`t as bad as I thought it would be. Quite the opposite actually. It raised my psychic and spiritual awareness enormously and made me very receptive and gave me a feeling like I was "guided" in a way. Some nearly miraculous things happened, too; the downside was that I had to be very careful to differentiate between true psychic perception and pure fantasy.
But all in all it was a very beautiful aspect. I had Pluto conjunct Sun and Mercury at the same time, and all I can say is that it was a very significant and enlightening time, but not nearly as confused, disoriented or destructive as you might think with these aspects (of course it was exhausting at times).

But I must say my Moon is unaspected except for a quinkunx to Saturn; I think it does aspect the Mercury/ PLuto and Sun/Pluto midpoint though.

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Diana
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posted June 20, 2009 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I felt saturn trine my AC.

I think the trines and sextiles are not perceived to be felt, because they are easy. But there is a reaction. Not nearly as strong as the conjunction, which is the most intense of all the aspects.

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posted June 20, 2009 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

Yours is a lot easier because you don't have any hard aspects to your Moon

but my Moon is the apex of a t-square, and so anything conjunct my Moon will square all the planets that square my Moon. I am not crazy about synastry conjunctions to my Moon.

Moon trines my Sun, but I feel that my apex t-quare seems to overpower. I can't relate much to the cookbook interps for Sun trine Moon like much ease and harmony in my life and things like inner peace and serenity as confident and secure in one's self. Definitely haven't had good relationships...I have never been married.


I just know that transiting Neptune conjunct my Moon will be significantly challenging for me, and I am very sure that it has to do with my mother who already has serious health problems which is definitely a reflect of my lunar apex t-square.
It will be trining my Sun in 2nd, but I don't know what that will be about.


Transiting Jupiter conjuncts my Moon early next year,and that won't be necessarily beneficial either.


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DD
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posted June 21, 2009 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Raymond,

yes I agree your Moon is a lot more challenging aspected than mine.
Mine is not a real joy either though; I think the fact that it is exactly square my Sun-Pluto and Mercury-Pluto midpoint might figure in here, at least a little bit.

That T-square to your Moon really doesn`look nice, especially with moon ruling your 11th house.
BUT on the other hand I remember having had Tr Pluto squaring Moon many years ago, and nothing really tragic or bad happened. Of course it may be because my Moon is relatively tame.

Anyway I do not have such a T-square as you, but I have Jupiter squaring Neptune and NN (on 10 and 11 degree Pisces and Sagittarius), and even when the transiting Saturn or Uranus was putting a lot on pressure on it, nothing too bad happened. Well, it was not a joyful time, of course, but it passed by and let me and my loved ones (physically) unharmed.

Also, didn`t you say that squares and oppositions are not necessarily bad but have an "event" character?
Wouldn´t that mean that a transiting opposition or square isn`t bad, but that it depends on the involved planets? So a T-square with Jupiter wouldn´t be that disastrous?


Nevertheless I agree, you have a challenging combination with Saturn and Neptune pulling your Moon into two directions.
But maybe this could also be a good opportunity to develop your spiritual beliefs even further and see what it is you REALLY believe and need.

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