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lionseye***
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posted June 20, 2009 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
Does this not seem like an ideal moon position? What would this person be like, besides the obvious of being home loving and attached to their mom? Might they be psychic? Or really empathetic? Mom is obviously god to this person, yeah?

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lionseye***
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posted June 20, 2009 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
I mean, mom is terribly important to this person and women in gereral?

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woah city
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posted June 20, 2009 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
hmm. i have taurus moon in the 4th and my progressed moon is about to enter cancer. does that count?

MOM is way too important. mom was a psycho. hence, i am at a loss of how to deal with that giant hole in my heart where i ache to be close to her.

but i had an AMAZING grandmother (dad's side, and dad is a cancer moon), and she more than fills the hole. most amazing, loving, strong, kind, gracious, giving woman alive. must be my 4th house moon speaking. but really, she was!!

i'm really empathetic, yeah.

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posted June 20, 2009 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Cancer Moon in the 4th is traditionally seen as ideal since Cancer and the 4th are ruled by the Moon. However, I guess for practical every day purposes, this can be tricky.

The Moon will be exceptionally strong, and this person might let their emotions run away with them. Attachment to the mother may be problematic, but it doesn't have to be.

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Astra
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posted June 20, 2009 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
I knew someone with this placement and they weren't attached to any family member--male or female---at all. Both parents were losers and the cancer moon person was no different.

Someone with a 4th house cancer moon can exhibit positive traits such as: nurturing, kind, empathetic, excellent listener, good cook, loyal, etc.

However, this position has negative traits such as manipulative, spoiled, vengeful, disloyal, dishonest, extremely moody

It all depends on how the person chooses to use their cancer moon. I would think that although a cancer moon is dignified, I would say that it is a difficult position to handle in real life. All of the cancer moons I've met wore their emotions on their sleeves and got hurt way too easily. They get carried away with their emotions and often misinterpret what others say. Since Cancer is a cardinal sign, they are impulsive with their emotions; they react and think later, which can be problematic in most situations.

A Cancer moon would probably be easier for someone with a water and to a lesser extent, earth, sun since they are more emotional elements. However, having a Cancer moon would be difficult for fire or air signs since they place less importance on emotions.

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Glaucus
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posted June 20, 2009 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Astra

The only thing that I would like to add is that the heliocentric planetary nodes can also factor. Aspects to them are like aspects to the planets themselves,but they are collective...they move up to 1 degree per century...slows slow moving as stars.

the conjunction to the north,south planetary node is the most important


Moon can be conjunct the following Nodes when in Cancer

use no more than 2 degree orb

North Jupiter Node has been located between 10 and 11 degrees Cancer

North Saturn Node has been located between 23 and 24 degrees Cancer

North Pluto Node has been located between 20 and 21 degrees Cancer


Raymond


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Lucia23
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posted June 20, 2009 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
What's ideal is very subjective, depending on your life values. My 7th house Cancer Moon would be the ideal placement if it was 1850 and my dream in life was to be the perfect caring, nurturing wife. In THIS life, for many years it interfered with my publuc persona, by making me highly sensitive and with a tendency to take rejection personally.

A 4th house Cancer Moon would be VERY security-loving, emotional, nurturing, passive-aggressive, and (secretly, passive-aggressively) clingy.

If 4th house people or Cancer-influenced people have negative or troubled relationships with their mother figures, their crab shell hardens and they can be very closed off with people they love, to avoid hurt. They have a thick shell to protect their very thin skin. On any astrology site, you will find mystified posts from women who are trying to decipher the passive-aggressive courtship habits of toxic Cancer or Cancer-influenced bachelors...many of us have had the frustration of working with an oversensitive Cancer-influenced colleague who expects us to pick up on what they want from their subtle signals.

The house where your Moon falls gives you emotional skills in that area--a 9th house Moon will be a great adventurer, a 7th house moon a great partner, a 3rd house Moon a great communicator--but it also makes you extra sensitive and vulnerable to things not going right in that area. If a 4th house Cancer Moon were having trouble building family and feeling security in the home, he/she would be devestated.

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posted June 20, 2009 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lehia2     Edit/Delete Message
A Cancer moon would probably be easier for someone with a water and to a lesser extent, earth, sun since they are more emotional elements. However, having a Cancer moon would be difficult for fire or air signs since they place less importance on emotions.

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Sorry, but I'm confused. I thought Fire and Water signs were the emotional ones, while Air and Earth signes not so much?

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lionseye***
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posted June 22, 2009 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
Well, this person has a very fiery chart, other than that 4th house Cancer moon. Aries rising, Sag sun, sun conjunct Mars...very fiery. Yikes, there's just no telling how that emotional Cancer moon will stir up perhaps irrational impulsive behavior in all that fire. The moon doesn't really recieve much by way of aspects from the rest of the chart, so it makes me wonder if this person will be able to relate to their own emotions at all. On the other hand, it's good that this tender moon is not receiving any NASTY aspects from the malific planets either. ...Hmm.

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savanna20
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posted June 22, 2009 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Luminaries close to the IC are aspects associated with being intuitive. Being a water sign, more so.

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Astra
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posted June 22, 2009 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Lehia,

I meant that a water moon such as Cancer is more "in harmony" with a water or earth sun. Water and earth are compatible just as fire and air are compatible.

Fire itself is typically not emotional in the sentimental/weepy sense. They do become angry easily, but they aren't known for crying or being clingy. Fire signs have a lot of energy and a "go-for-it" attitude. Worrying about the emotions of others is not their strong suit. They say what they think without worrying about any social consequences. This is a generalization, of course.

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lionseye***
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posted June 22, 2009 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
I stand corrected. That Cancer moon receives an opposition from Mercury, as well as Pluto.

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Claire de Lune
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posted June 29, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Claire de Lune     Edit/Delete Message
Cancer Moon in 4th here - what exactly would you like to know - I'm happy to offer whatever information I can about this placement...

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lionseye***
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posted June 29, 2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
Well, just an idea about the general charactor of someone with this placement. My 6 month old daughter has a 4th house Cancer moon, and it doesn't really fit in with the rest of her chart. She's a Saggie sun, with Aries rising, and Mars conjunct her Saggie sun, so she's very firey - but she has that very watery moon, and I know Cancer is all about mom, and moon represents mom, and 4th house represents early childhood and the home. I just wonder, how is that moon going to play out in a person who is so firey?
And what does it say about me as a mother? It seems to me it's an ideal position for the moon, but like I said, it's at odds with the rest of her personality.

How do you process emotions? Are they often overwhelming and hard to reason with?
How do you feel about your mother?
How do you feel about your early childhood and homelife?

Anything you could offer would be welcome

thank you!

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Claire de Lune
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posted June 30, 2009 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Claire de Lune     Edit/Delete Message
first of all...

congratulations on the birth of your daughter - what a wonderful time for you - and how blessed you are indeed to be the mother of a 4th house Cancerian moon - I have much to tell you and am planning on writing more over the next day or two - please bear with me - the next couple of days are a bit chaotic for me

is there an email address where I might send you a lengthier more detailed message?

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