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Topic: An afflicted mercury
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scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 01:33 PM
I think something is really wrong with this planet in my chart. I not only find it hard to express myself, but it's very hard for me to reach out to others, to make connections. There is great tension, even fear imbedded in me with these issues. Therefor it's hard for me to make friends with people, I'm very aloof and distant, I always feel I am on the outside looking in. I'm there, but yet i'm not, i'm an eternal stranger. Could this be from an afflicted mercury? I have several books that say mercury rules your ability to make connections with others and in some ways the dragon's head(nodes) does to. In my chart mercury is in scorpio in the 7th conj the desc. It conjoins uranus and opposes chiron 0 deg making a t square with my north node 0 deg. I know quite a bit about chiron, but I feel I don't really understand how the nodes truely work in the chart so therefor I don't know how to interpret this configuration. I would really appreciate some help with this. Oh and saturn also semi-squares mercury.
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blue moon Knowflake Posts: 366 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 01:40 PM
quote: Mercury Square North Node: There is conflict between your mental expression and communication and the prevailing social attitudes. You're unable to express yourself clearly and tend to be misunderstood. You often speak out at inappropriate times/places, drawing social scorn.
http://www.geocities.com/rbltre/astro/measnn.html But we need to be clear, do you have Mercury CNJ Uranus Square NN? Because that will colour the interpretation. If you could put a chart up that would help. The whole picture puts it into context. If it helps any, as I was typing this out I reminded myself I have Mercury Square NN myself - but the above doesn't sound much like me, aside from speaking out. To be more accurate I have Mercury CNJ Venus Square Mars CNJ NN. I don't have a problem with making friends or expressing what is on my mind. As long as those friends don't mind people who say what they think. I'm not going to worry much about social scorn if I think I am right. IP: Logged |
savanna20 Knowflake Posts: 81 From: ca Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 01:40 PM
My ex had a heavy afflicted moon and mercury and was known as a mute guy. He had a hard time making friends and communicating.IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 472 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 01:48 PM
it would seem like a mind that thinks outside the box, and has painful experiences,insecurites in regards to education,learning,perceptions of one's intelligence as well as . There is possibility of speech delays and hesitant speech as well as the need to cautious in ho w one says things as the speech can be erratic leading to possible slips of the tongue. These issues can lead to issues with making connections,associations with others. once you resolve these issues, you can become a counselor,teacher,reformer who understands and make connections with others because of your painful experiences and limitations. Raymond
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 472 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 02:05 PM
I can totally relate to everything that you said. I had a history of speech and auditory processing problems connected to my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. If it wasn't for auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics,and occupational therapy, I wouldn't be able to be functional in language. I still have fears,shyness connected to my problems with communications,special education experiences,and my feelings of intellectual inadequacy. I am very softspoken with high pitched voice, and I was even told many times that I sound like Michael Jackson. Dyspraxia affects coordination of speech. I clutter (rapid,tangential,disorganized) quite a bit....especially if I am nervous. I have word retrieval problems. I had auditory input speech lags,and so I need time to process things when people talk to me. I also tend to have problems remembering what people say. I can be confused in conversations. Those things connected to Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. I I used to have a bad shaking problem when I was around people. I'd feel like a freak because of it. Therefore,I hated public speaking. I also had a hard time connecting with females that I want to have a romantic connection with....especially if I wasn't macho enough for them because of my not having a deep voice like men are supposed to have. I don't have an afflicted Mercury by longitude
It's my t-square Moon in Pisces in 6th square retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd my declinations are very significant with Saturn contraparallel Mercury-Venus-Neptune I also have Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint, and one of it's intepretations in COSI was speech defects, little intelligence,lack of objectivity,and mental disturbances
In Right Ascension, My Mercury squares the Lunar Nodes My Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio is also conjunct certain astronomical points: the heliocentric South Mercury Node the heliocentric South Mars Node the Mercury apogee (the most distant point of Mercury's orbit from Earth) also near the 19th degree of Scorpio aka the accursed degree.
even in heliocentric chart: My Mercury in Sagittarius is conjunct Mercury Aphelion (the most distant point of Mercury's orbit from the Sun) Heliocentric South Venus Node
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blue moon Knowflake Posts: 366 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 02:05 PM
There is no point trying to be something you're not. That's why I like Glaucus' comment, it allows for using the uniqueness of Mercury/Uranus. Forcing them into the box is only reinforcing the Square with the Nodes. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 207 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 02:08 PM
It seems like it might be more of an afflicted moon or sun. It also sounds like air. Your chart would help a lot.IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 03:48 PM
Yes definately a mind that thinks outside the box, very unconventional and non conformist. But you told mr some of this is coming from my strong kuiper belt energy as well. And yes I do attract social scorn, because my view are completely at odds with everyone around me. For instance, I was born and raised here in ultra conservative southeast texas, but I am a radical liberal and I absolutely do not believe in organized religion, I think it's the biggest con mankind has ever swallowed and I'm not afraid to say so! ... Now this is the part where I'm socially scorned...IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 03:56 PM
My sun is in libra conj pluto and my moon is in cappy square saturn and semi-square uranus, moon is also in a grand trine with venus and chiron/ascIP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 472 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 04:13 PM
"Yes definately a mind that thinks outside the box, very unconventional and non conformist. But you told mr some of this is coming from my strong kuiper belt energy as well."Yes...there is a strong theme, and kuiper belt objects are more unconventional,nonconformist otherworldly t because they are located well beyond Neptune....so can be really "out there"....that especially goes for people with strong Sedna energy " And yes I do attract social scorn, because my view are completely at odds with everyone around me. For instance, I was born and raised here in ultra conservative southeast texas, but I am a radical liberal and I absolutely do not believe in organized religion, I think it's the biggest con mankind has ever swallowed and I'm not afraid to say so! ... Now this is the part where I'm socially scorned..."
Yeah...I never felt right with unorganized religion nor either. It's only recently, I became a member of an interfaith unity church and that was because I wanted to be part of a spiritual community and make friends that are into spirituality. Before that, it was me just being a free spirit and longer. I am very liberal, but I am not radical. I see nothing wrong with that. but...I don't know...maybe you would be better off getting out of that Bible belt area. I was born and raised in California which is a liberal state. I was born in highly liberal San Francisco, but grew up in Sacramento. I think that you're a very cool person. You are very fine just the way you are.
We all have our challenges,and they really be a blessing once they are understood how they give a lot of character and you can use those experiences to relate to others. From what you posted, it seems that you and your daughter have similarities, but your daughter has more of an extreme neurodivergence from what you told me. From what you tell me, she's very intelligent person. Therefore, she's not really global delayed. With intervention therapies, she will be high functioning.
I have looked at her kuiper belt stuff, and I will post soon. Raymond IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 156 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 04:22 PM
I have one of the most afflicted Mercury's I have ever seen. My Mercury is conjunct Saturn and it is quindecile my Uranus-Pluto conjunction. Not only that, Mercury rules my Ascendant and 5th House. My Mercury is in Aries.This is the way it affects me in positive ways. I communicate very well, clearly and I tend to follow the rules of grammar strictly. Rules are ruled by Saturn. It suggests the depression I have suffered in the first half of my life. Because Mercury rules my 5th House I suspect it is connected to me being the kind of person who doesn't date like regular people. People in dating mode seem to be very fake to me and I can't take it seriously. It's the kind of thing where God has to walk someone in front of me that I find attractive and I just seem to meet someone, but they are few and far between. And I can't be casual. I can't just "be seeing someone" it usually starts the beginning of a relationship. Saturn also affects my mobility. I can drive but I never bothered to get a drivers license because my funds always went to other projects instead of focusing on buying a car. I live in New York and a car isn't necessary. I'm beginning to feel the need for a car now in my early 40's due to health issues, but I haven't made any moves to get a car. Because of Pluto and Uranus quindecile to my Mercury I can become obsessed with thinking deeply. I also seem to have an obsession with people believing that I'm highly intellectual. I don't really know if I'm highly intellectual, I didn't finish college because my Saturn is afflicted and it rules my 9th House of Higher Education. It's been very difficult for me to finish anything having to do with higher education. But somewhere in my life I believe that I already have what I need in terms of higher education, I just don't have the degree to show for it. I'm thinking that your Mercury conjunct Uranus in Scorpio makes you kind of eccentric in your communication, but you may also be psychic and probably a genius in some way, shape or form. If not you, most likely a spouse will be. If Mercury rules your 2nd House, you might actually make some good money writing or using whatever kind of communication skills you do have. If your communication is kind of whacky, how can you use that to your advantage. You may have been given quite a gift. I have an image of the actor Robin Williams when he used to speak like "Mork From Ork" and his quirky movements. He did similar types of speaking and movement and communication in his stand up comedy and it has made lots of money for him. How can you put a positive spin on your special brand of communication? And since it is connected to your Nodal Axis, you could have some public recognition, be in the public eye with your Mercurial abilities. Also, was your Mom eccentric or strange in some way. With Uranus connected to your Nodal Axis, there may be some kind of connection with your mother in terms of your Uranus and Mercury. IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 470 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 04:25 PM
quote: It suggests the depression I have suffered in the first half of my life. Because Mercury rules my 5th House I suspect it is connected to me being the kind of person who doesn't date like regular people. People in dating mode seem to be very fake to me and I can't take it seriously. It's the kind of thing where God has to walk someone in front of me that I find attractive and I just seem to meet someone, but they are few and far between. And I can't be casual. I can't just "be seeing someone" it usually starts the beginning of a relationship.
the same here! Merc 5/6HR conj Sedna and Chiron square Saturn opposition Uranus IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 08:00 PM
I AM a really good writer and that was the only thing I could think of doing since I ws a kid. I would write short stories all the time, but when I try to start something bigger I tend to get fed up with the project and just forget about it. I'm an excellent starter and a horrible finisher. Thank you all for the advice, a lot of things said really hit home. Now I'm thinking that I have some time off maybe I should start writing again. Oh, but I don't have a daughter. I wish.IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 472 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 08:21 PM
oh sorry about that, scrappydog. I got you mixed up with Cynnared how embarassing! she's the one that has an extremely neurodivergent daughter. IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 09:42 PM
Thats ok dude! Don't worry bout it!  IP: Logged | |