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Topic: planetary afflictions????
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 497 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 08:36 PM
Why are people using words like afflictions when it comes to aspects?or bad aspects,good aspects negative aspects,positive aspects It's like reading medieval astrology or even Vedic Astrology words like afflictions aren't use in psychological, humanistic,evolutionary astrological systems nor cosmobiology for that matter.
the hard aspects are more like more effort needed to use maximize its potential
the easy aspects can easily be misused and become liabilities and not assets....depending on the person hard aspects are even viewed as event-oriented aspects by cosmobiologists. easy aspect aren't viewed as event-oriented aspects but only psychological. hard aspects are only used with solar arcs and midpoints are often used with that system. Only hard aspects are used with midpoints.
the hard aspects are said to include conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,sesquiquadrate) I just don't believe in using term, afflicted nor good/positive and bad/negative aspects.
especially not with the 21st Century Astrology that I prefer to use now. I think those terms are more for the Astrology of old as well as Vedic Astrology which tends to be highly fatalistic.
Raymond
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 497 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 08:52 PM
the following is book that I have. I first got it in 1999, but I lost it. I got it again in 2006. It it one of my favorites. it can be used for natal,synastry,transit,solar arc,secondary progression. http://www.amazon.com/Key-Words-Astrology-Hajo-Banzhaf/dp /0877288755/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245718343&sr=8-1
KEYWORDS FOR ASTROLOGY by
Hajo Banshaf and Anna Haebler Many opportunities for development are concealed in every aspect in the chart. However, how, and to what degree, they are manifested, and what level they attain always depends upon the personality's degree of maturity---and precisely this factor is not revealed in the horoscope. This is why we have also consciously dispensed with stating the commonly made differentiation between good and bad, easy and difficult, harmonious and tension-laden, auspicious and misfortune-bringing configurations. Such definitions are foolish. We have seen horoscopes that were full of so-called harmonious aspects, yet the people affected were caught up in deep crises in life. Life simply ran on without meaning. Nothing had challenged them and/or even forced them to make something of their lives. Everything was simply easy and superficial, and after a certain point in time it became unbearable. On the other hand, it is widely known that the horoscopes of great personalities are charged with tensions. For this reason, we have described all the horoscope factors in their polar tensions as strengths and problem areas---or---for the aspects---as harmony and discord. We have followed the development from the obstruction to the solution solely in the case of Saturn, the Lord of Time (Cronos). It may certainly be true that a difficult astrological configuration, such as a planet position in "detriment" or in "fall," or irritated or impaired by difficult aspects (such as a square or an opposition) initially attracts attention from its critical side. Yet, there is not only the possibility of transformation, but also the responsibility to transform, in each of these configurations. From the astrological perspective, the horoscope describes the starting situation in which we begin our life on Earth. Now our task is polishing ourselves against our various tensions until we succeed in uniting all the original discord into a great harmonious symphony. Raymond IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Moderator Posts: 708 From: peace.angel@live.com.au Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 10:34 PM
Raymond.Maybe I'm too much of an idealist, but I think there's good in everything - and everything is an opportunity to learn. Sometimes those lessons are harder than others and they're not ideal. I'm not a fan of terms like "afflicted" when it comes to astrological interpretations. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 497 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 10:44 PM
nodsmany successful people have t-squares too they have had challenges in their lives and they dealt with them. They helped them build strength. Raymond IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 11:29 PM
People with tons of trines and sextile aspects can the laziest people, those squares and oppositions just equal productivity and manifestation! IP: Logged |
Plutonian Persona Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Denver, CO, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 11:30 PM
I'm with PA on this one. People want everything easy and cannot see the merit in working hard and gradually to that lofty summit. Instant gratification is one of the scourges of modern society. Yet, difficulties are truly opportunities to learn and grow on both the personal and soul level. We truly are on the precipice of a new age where all the old ways of thinking will vanish in time.Oh, and one more thing that has been brought up many times before is that people with the "best" charts (sextiles and trines) tend to be the worst people...adversity truly does bring out the best in people. IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 381 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 02:24 AM
That really needed to be said. I also agree with P.P and P.A on the easy ride comments. Synastry suffers from the same thinking. Some of the threads make me wonder. The irony to me is that I have a Grand Cross synastry and a happy marriage. It didn't all happen without a little bit of patience and attention and I don't assume it is all going to carry on tickety-boo. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 881 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 02:35 AM
I definitely agree on what has been said here. I never liked that term either. I also think in synastry it is the so called "bad" aspects that will trigger an attraction. Without squares and oppositions and conjunctions you may be compatible and harmoniously get along, but there will be no attraction. Seriously, I would pick a Venus-Mars-square over a Venus-Mars sextile anytime. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 05:59 AM
Rock on... in full agreement here. I don't like the black/white absolutism of such things myself. Let's all grow and learn.IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 197 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 01:32 PM
Hard aspects are energies in conflict with each other, while soft aspects are energies in harmony with each other, for better or worse. It doesn't mean that it is necessarily bad or good - just how the energies flow with each other.But I guess that although many of us knows this already, we already got so used to use such terms that it gives the feeling that good aspects are just good, while bad aspects are just bad. XP Oh well, I guess that my chart has more soft aspects than hard ones, so that my energies are so in tune with each other, for better or worse. Which means when my Aries stellium decides to get chaotic, it gets really chaotic lol. XP In return, I have a few hard aspects, with my t-square the hardest one, yet also thanks to it I'm often evolving (I hope lol). IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 546 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 12:20 AM
quote: Now our task is polishing ourselves against our various tensions until we succeed in uniting all the original discord into a great harmonious symphony.
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Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 125 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 02:35 PM
I have a T square in my chart. I'm not sure what successful thing I've accomplished in my life.....IP: Logged |