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posted July 01, 2009 01:37 PM         

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Hi, I'm trying to learn to read Davidson charts. What do you see in this relationship?

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posted July 01, 2009 01:40 PM         

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Your link doesn't seem to be working, but I can take a look later, maybe we can do a exchange of composite vs davidson chart comparisons!

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posted July 01, 2009 01:42 PM         

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Should be working now!

Do you think that Uranus-AC would mean the relationship would be very short? Or could it also mean that the connection between the two people would be highly unconventional?

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posted July 01, 2009 01:57 PM         

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I see a fourth house stellium with the Sun in the 5th so having fun comes with familiarity, the Asc. is Scorpio and Pluto is in the 11th, so friends and wishes come with intensity especially with Uranus conjunct the Asc., and communication is fundamental with Sun conjunct mercury, and the 8th house has Gemini on the cusp, plus lust in the 8th, not too shabby!

The Sun is in Aries and trine Jupiter (in 9th house) and conjunct Juno, with a Scorpio Asc., this looks like a intense and powerful relationship, Lucia!

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posted July 01, 2009 02:10 PM         

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Do you want to interpret this Davidson chart? I see some pluto influences in this chart as well...

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posted July 01, 2009 10:07 PM         

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Thanks!

Here are a few things I see off the bat--I'm assuming it's a romantic relationship so if it's not the comments may be off...

-That Moon-Juno-Valentine on the IC in Cancer=possibility of making a nice home together and wanting a family. Feeling like family emotionally. With Taurus rising too...one idea for making this relationship work is that (although you have lots of dynamic, splashy, intense stuff happening--fire Mars in 12th, Sun in 5th, Scorp Pluto on DC) the two people should make sure to spend some time together at home, talking (Cancer Venus in 3rd, Jupiter in Gemini, under the right circumstances, even though they can be private people with that 12th house, they can communicate well about emotional issues.)

Combining that all with Leo Sun in the 5th, there's real potential for making a home/family together.

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posted July 02, 2009 01:27 AM         

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Oh, thanks for the interpretation, it sounded pretty spot on expect I think the 4th house themes are more about having common backgrounds or ties to the family... Do you have a composite chart of the same relationship, it would be interesting to compare the two charts- davidson vs composite..

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posted July 02, 2009 10:03 PM         

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I'm not a fan of composites (I've found them really inaccurate for several of my relationships...somehow the midpoint method just seems more mathematically coincidental to me that astrologically apt...this is why I'm so eager to read the Davidson's, because I looked them over for a few of my family/friends and they seem so much more right on), but here is the synastry:

(Also posted in this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201432.html)....Will you post a synastry too?

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posted July 02, 2009 10:47 PM         

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So, I've heard that a synastry chart is how we normally work with other people and the Davidson or composite is the relationship as a whole...

I see a few similarities between the Davidson you posted and the synastry. First off I noticed that the cusp of the 11th house is in Scorpio and in the davidson chart Pluto was in the 11th house. Saturn is also placed in the inner persons chart similar to the 10th house Saturn in the davidson chart.

The inner persons Sun is in the 11th house of the other persons, which is a great placement for a relationship and a friendship, and the outer persons Sun is in the 10th house, which might indicate higher status or reputations especially with Capricorn Asc. and the outer persons Saturn in the 10th. Do you think the Davidson represents this relationship as a whole?

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posted July 02, 2009 10:52 PM         

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Also Lucia, do you know if you can indicate from a Davidson how long the relationship will be or if it is a long lasting or a short term one? Does the Davidson I posted above look like a short term or long term relationship to you?

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posted July 02, 2009 10:55 PM         

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In the Davidson I posted, the 5th house Aries Sun/Scorp Rising/Pisces Moon gives a good flavor of the relationship as a whole, but the 4th house emphasis I think isn't quite right (although we do kind of hang out at home alone together a bit)...it's a relationship that feels to me like it has lots of complicated layers, which I don't understand too well, and I think that's reflected in the chart.

I'm not sure how to tell whether a relationship is longterm or short term from a Davidson--would you look for the same things as in synastry? I'm hoping someone with lots of experience reading these charts will take a look.

EDIT: My impulse, looking at the DAvidsons that each of us has posted, is to think both relationships would potentially be sporadic, unusual/surprising/unconventional in the nature of the connection, or of unpredictable length, because of the Uranus-ASC conjunction in mine, the Saturn-Uranus conjunction in the (very karmic) 8th house in yours. In yours, Pluto right on the DC could bring stability (esp with Taurus rising), or an unbearable heaviness, where the people might feel pushed to destroy it...I can't tell.

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posted July 03, 2009 02:50 AM         

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Lucia, I just figured out something that blew my mind! Its called the Marks chart which is taking a relationship Davison chart and one of the natal charts and forming a NEW Davison chart which will give you an idea of the person in that particular relationship. Comparing the Marks Chart to the natal chart can tell you where the relationship is for self-actualization for the person and where they are likely to behave out of character.

The hardest part is creating the chart, astro.com shows you the time and date of the davidson of the two people plus the coordinates, but the coordinates of the place doesn't really exist because it is just a halfway mark of the two places of where the two people were born, so you basically have to do some guessing until the chart looks just like the davidson and then just make a new davidson with the actual davidson chart and yourself or for the other person...

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posted July 03, 2009 03:10 AM         

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Interesting! That sounds like a frustrating quirk on astrodienst, like the fact that it is not possible to automatically look at natal-draconic synastry.

I am definitely more drawn to synastry--how each person experiences and affects the other--than Davidsons or Composites, but I do think a relationship sort of forms its own entity, separate from any couple. So the Mark chart makes sense.

I'm surprised there aren't more people chiming in with specific guidelines for reading Davidson charts.

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posted July 03, 2009 03:10 PM         

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Yeah I agree, synastry is a lot more straight forward than Composite charts or Davidson charts. But I started understanding Davidson charts more once I started comparing my relationships with relatives or really close friends, and there seems to be a theme of Capricorn Asc. or Saturn conjunct the Asc. or a 4th house emphasis, which really makes sense because these are relationships that are very long lasting and I'm kinda stuck with.

I wish someone else would put some input on Davidson charts as well, I know other people use them! Maybe because it is a newer method, its overlooked or just too new agey...

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