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aerialcircus
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posted July 04, 2009 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
I've noticed that a lot of experienced astrologers use the "equal house" system, where all the houses are defaulted to the same size. It retains the degrees between planets/asteroids, but could possibly change a lot of your house placements. When I draw up my chart using Equal Houses, it changes drastically (since my 7th house is tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny in the default system), so I'm still not sure how I feel about it.

Do any of you use the equal house system? What drove you to make the jump? Did your chart under this system make more sense to you than the one you originally learned?

If you want to see what your chart looks like using equal houses, you can do so on astro.com.

- On the main page after you sign in, click the "Extended Chart Selection" link

- Under "options," choose "equal" on the drop down menu after "House Systems"

- Add whatever asteroids you want (if any)

- Viola!

Using the equal house system:

My Aries Sun moves away from the 12th house cusp and solidly resides in the 11th.

My Capricorn Moon moves out of the 9th house and into my 8th.

My Pisces Venus moved out of the 10th house and into the 9th.

My Libra Mars moves out of the 5th house and into the 4th.

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Lucia23
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posted July 04, 2009 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I feel frustrated by different house systems, because how can both be accurate?

In my chart, Jupiter moves from my 2nd to 3rd house if I use the Equal House system, Mars from my 8th to 9th house. Both fit, in a way.

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Peri
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posted July 04, 2009 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I don't use Equals (which one are you talking about? Equal from ASC, Equal from MC or whole signs?), Placidus proved to be the best one at least for me.

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downtomars
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posted July 04, 2009 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
When I first started getting interested about my natal chart I did Whole Signs because it was very DIY and obvious and degrees weren’t really involved at that beginner’s level. It was more like whole signs by default because I knew nothing about house systems at that time. Years later when I went on astro and plugged in my info it automatically went to placidus and a few things were moved :

Pluto went from the 9th house to the 8th
Saturn went from the 8th house to the 7th
Uranus went from the 10th house to the 9th

But since these are in the same quadrant (except for the 10th of course), they pretty much feel the same to me, like they can be interchangeable. I mean, Pluto will still cause intense, profound relations with others if it is in the 8th or the 9th and Saturn will still cause me to have responsibility issues with others – partnerships and money eventually combine. Even Uranus, that is in the 9th Placidus and 10th Equal, is still conjunct the MC so that feels exactly the same. Then I read a few articles on the subject:
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_house_system#Equal_House
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp

There are so many on the subject actually, mostly debates.

Equal house or even whole signs just makes more sense to me because it is logical (and balanced, I have lots of Libra influence).

How do your house changes feel to you? Do they make more or less sense with equal house?

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aerialcircus
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posted July 04, 2009 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
Ohhhh DTM, thank you for the links! They were super informative, especially the last one. The idea that using equal houses brings out the "true" midheaven by placing it at the top of the individual chart (regardless of the 10th house cusp) makes a lot of logical sense to me. I'd always wondered about that MC issue, actually. If nothing else, I definitely need to read up on this a little more.

I'm still not exactly sure how I feel about all the changes to my chart when it switches to equal houses, though. Like Lucia said, how can they both be accurate? Does it show that we put too much emphasis on sign placement and too little on house (or vice versa)? I have a LOT of early/late degree action happening (Mercury at 1 degree, Mars & Uranus at 4, Pluto at 25 and Sun, Moon, and Neptune all at 26), so literally half of my planets shift houses when I switch systems (it's less dramatic in whole signs, though).

In some regards, it DOES make more sense. I never related much with what I'd been told about 10th house Venus, so much so that it's actually been one of my only points of doubt where astrology is concerned. I've never dated for wealth or status, am a total lazy bones, and am actually INCREDIBLY turned off my materialism/social climbers. What I've read about 9th house Venus translates pretty much into that, so- that not only fits, but resolves a serious issue for me.

But--- my Mars in the 4th? SO drastic a change from the 5th! How do I rationalize?

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Coffee
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posted July 04, 2009 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
I use it. My chart never makes sense. Continued using it after doing some predictive work which got much better after.

As the all the houses are equal, it gives a more logical balance as the signs are exact same length as the houses.

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Cynnared
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posted July 05, 2009 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
When I have a chart that needs to be done up that has no birth time I will use equal house and put the Sun on The Ascendant.

With the others I use Plac or Koch because those 2 styles I have learned astrology using them

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woah city
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posted July 05, 2009 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
whole signs seems to fit me more.

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Lucia23
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posted July 05, 2009 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Wowie, it changes synastry A LOT.

Jeeez. It changes my ex's Sun in his natal chart from the friendly, gregarious 11th house to the 12th house and then gives us an exact conjunction of his Sun-Pluto to my MC-Pluto.

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DD
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posted July 05, 2009 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Using the equal house method you have to keep in mind that MC and cusp of 10th house are not the same anymore. MC becomes a sensitive point in this system.

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