posted July 06, 2009 12:13 AM            

Also, because nessus connects the inner planets to the orbit of pluto a lot of astrologers are seeing it in view of that.

I have my mom's nessus conj my natal venus-chiron which is quincunx my pluto and neptune , the venus-chiron is the tip of a yod.

Unintentionally ,she ended up being my chironic wound and led me to explore my inner self ( pluto).

My nessus conj my Twin flame's Nemesis and Ascendent.

we have his nessus conj my venus in draconics.

We have caused each other a lot of pain thru lifetimes...but we wouldnt call it abuse , it was worth it.

Try this one
http://www.kentauren.info/menu/index.htm?page=/Centaurharbingers.htm

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Nessus has to do with the awareness of our vulnerability against darkness, abuse, and emotional death. Nessus is very vulnerable, as the pilots of the Japanese kamikazes, or as "Madame Butterfly". From this come ideas or images about how someone deals with this basic frailty against the forces of darkness and death, either in yourself or in society.

Nessus is dark, and seems to go downward. Like the wings of a dragon, as opposed to Pholus, who has "wings of light", like an Angel. Nessus is like bringing out the dark so that it can be redeemed, whereas Pholus is like an overflow of one into the other...

Nessus frailty is the key to its meaning. The paradox of weakness. Saint Paul said: "for when I am weak, then I am strong". This passage of 2 Corinthians is worth mentioning here. I think it deals with Nessus:

"essus is about power dynamics and the dynamics of abuse, very important themes today in the western world, as we discover we were all abused as kids (and I mean it). Power and abuse dynamics always appear in relationships first, then they appear in one's inner emotional patterning, and the relationship pattern of that lifetime. Nessus tells us that physical abuse and psychological abuse work about the same way, and reminds us that quite often psychological abuse is more insidious because so often we don't know it's happening and we don't think it happened. One question of Nessus is, "did the abuse happen?"

Nessus can point to the circumstances that surround rape, incest, sexually transmitted diseases and, moreover, the relationship patterns that create these things. Put two charts together and you can see something about how these dynamics appear between people. Nessus can be used to investigate the lives of our parents and their relationships to others in the family. In most of our charts, Nessus is in a conjunction to another Centaur named Hylonome (hy-la-na-me).

This went on for quite a long time and represents the darker side of the 1950s and 1960s in which we were all suffering enormously as kids under the social changes of the era and our parents' frequent inability to process the lives they were somehow forced to live or not live. (This conjunction was a theme of one of the first newsletters in this series, which if I get a few requests, I will re-post).

Nessus and denial dynamics; raising awareness
Nessus speaks of two kinds of abuse: one, the insidious kind that doesn't seem like it later on. The other, the kind that was obviously so. Both are about the same thing, and yet in the not-so-obvious kind, there is the problem of not really having a sense of the scale of what happened. Abuse and neglect suffered unconsciously are that much further out of the reach of healing. Bringing them to awareness is often the last thing we want. Dealing consciously with abuse means dealing consciously with the fact of an abuser. In the case of a loved family member, or a family situation that will be challenged or totally disrupted by the fact that we were harmed by them, or by the revelation of a secret that has been guarded for generations, it's natural to be extremely reluctant to proceed, even if we really need to. Family politics can push us down and make the task seem daunting and even stupid. Especially if that abuse or neglect was just a "product of the times." Of course, often, it was much, much more.

Experiencing things as "the way things are"; Nessus as a background influence

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Nessus works much like a super-Chiron focused specifically on the dynamics of abuse. In all cases this abuse is psychological and in most it is not properly identified as what it is; rather, we experience it as "the way things are" and, more to the point, as the way WE are. But we are how we are because of the way we were treated when we were growing up.

Nessus, a centaur planet, can spill the beans on the abuse legacy we carry, both psychological and physical. It reveal the psychological dynamics of that abuse process, as well as telling us something about where it entered our reality (conjunct Mars, in the desire nature, for example; conjunct Saturn, as parental authority, and so on). Don't worry that you can't necessarily look up or interpret the meaning of the placement right away; just note its location and what it is doing (and welcome to the world of research astrology).

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We cannot let political correctness come in the way of truth. Some people have superior past lives for reasons chosen by the Higher Self, thats it. It need not give a superiority complex to them in the present nor should it give an inferiority complex to others who do not recall regal past lifelines.

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and then , there will be no death.

These are those who have lived, many lives,
so powerfully harmonised and synchronised,
that when not in each others physical presence,
they shall feel a nearly unbearable longing.

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posted October 10, 2011 10:55 PM            

does this mean he's sexually abusive?